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Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: fast68plymouth] #14952
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Now I understand the differences between the various EZ heads better. The EZ has a touch of CNC, just not the whole thing like the CNC295 etc. You definitly fixed the exhaust port on the standard EZ, but you do have a good hand for that short turn work.

These tables help me see the comparisons on one screen/page.

1581447-Indy EZ flows.jpg (188 downloads)

1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: 440Jim] #14953
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Jim nice chart! can you make a one to compare them to the bulldogs?

Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: 5126brl No more] #14954
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Yes. I just use MicroSoft Excel.

PM me the numbers you want compared and the titles.


1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: fast68plymouth] #14955
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well, im getting these CNC295's ready to install on the motor, and touched up the valve job, back cut the exhaust valves(intake came back cut from Indy), and blended the exhaust seat into the bowl.
IMO, definately worth it.

as i had mentioned, i suspected the intake valve job was hanging off the inner edge of the valve....and after lapping in the valve this was confirmed.
there was only about a .015 wide contact area between the valve and the head, and it was running right off the inner edge of the valve.
the VJ as it comes from ICH doesnt have the valves seating against the head all the way out at the outer edge of the valve.
when i redo the seats, i move it all the way out there.
this did cost a couple of CFM at .100-.200, but the way the seats and valves interface now will stay fresh a lot longer than the way they came from ICH.
also, the new seat work paid off with some added flow in the high lifts.
the exhaust seat had a rather pronounced edge where the seat and bowl meet, and after recutting the seat i blended that all in.

so, here is how the PRH "prepped" version flows.
this is the same cylinder as the OOTB test for a true apples to apples comparison.

lift-----I/E
.100--74.6/55.1
.200-154.6/108.7
.300-223.1/158.4
.400-278.7/196.2
.450-299.6/211.9
.500-318.8/223.7
.550-333.1/231.5
.600-345.7/238.9
.650-346.6/245.9
.700-350.4/251.5

the heads are going on the motor today, and if all goes well i should have the motor on the dyno some time next week.

then Rudy can put it in his new A body Cuda and rip off some mid-12's


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Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: fast68plymouth] #14956
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Those look very nice overall Fast. For those who wanted CNC MW Bulldog Numbers, here they be. Off two different benches. Port Volume was 288cc on the #1 I checked. Unknown Bore fixtures.


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Those look very nice overall Fast. For those who wanted CNC MW Bulldog Numbers, here they be. Off two different benches. Port Volume was 288cc on the #1 I checked. Unknown Bore fixtures.






Does every head ever made outflow the b1-bs on the exhaust? I'm not kidding. They seem to flow worse on the exhaust side then any aluminum head ever made.

Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: supercomp] #14958
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Those look very nice overall Fast. For those who wanted CNC MW Bulldog Numbers, here they be. Off two different benches. Port Volume was 288cc on the #1 I checked. Unknown Bore fixtures.






Does every head ever made outflow the b1-bs on the exhaust? I'm not kidding. They seem to flow worse on the exhaust side then any aluminum head ever made.




maybe ???

heres my cnc 260cc stage 6's ... maybe i'll use them someday
.lift...I...E
.100 71 55
.200 157 112
.300 230 177
.400 290 211
.500 325 233
.600 351 242
.700 351 252


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Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: supercomp] #14959
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Does every head ever made outflow the b1-bs on the exhaust? I'm not kidding. They seem to flow worse on the exhaust side then any aluminum head ever made.




OOTB they're not very impressive. Ported they can certainly move some air, though.

Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: JohnRR] #14960
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... heres my cnc 260cc stage 6's ... maybe i'll use them someday




And maybe you sell 'em to me cheap some day when you get desperate... and then they'll sit on my parts shelf for a couple of years until I get desperate... then somebody else will buy 'em even cheaper and...

Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: BradH] #14961
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OOTB they're not very impressive. Ported they can certainly move some air, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Well here's my cnc ported heads. Look at the exhaust.

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Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: supercomp] #14962
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OOTB they're not very impressive. Ported they can certainly move some air, though.




Well here's my cnc ported heads. Look at the exhaust.




its really not a good idea to try and compare flow numbers from different flow benches.
on my bench your BS's might be just as good, or maybe even better than the numbers posted for other heads i have tested.


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Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: fast68plymouth] #14963
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Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: JohnRR] #14964
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Yo, Kermit... any particular reason why you bumped this thread from so far back???

Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: BradH] #14965
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someone PM'd me asking about heads and these came to mind .

plus it took me awhile to find it so ....

Re: Indy 440-EZ's are here!!! [Re: JohnRR] #14966
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Yes, inquiring minds need to know. What's the scoop on these heads? Do you still have them?

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