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Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
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08/25/13 09:40 AM
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Well still at the Norwalk NMCA race today, but thought I'd put a quick post up for an update. Headed here Friday with a plan to go for the gusto and run the true street 10.0 class. Last time out the car ran 10.27@132 on 16psi with a 1.53 60ft. Knowing it was gonna need more I put the 20psi tune up in it and headed for the track. I had a REALLY hard time getting the car to hook. Just kept ripping the tires right at the TB realese. Finally on the 7th pass I had the thing backed all the way down to 7psi and 3200 on the two step. Finally hooked with a anemic 1.61 60ft, but let me tell you the 20psi almost made up for it down track. 10.08@136Sooooo close!!!! Really fast in the middle, just shy of 110mph at the 1/8th. Went back up for another run with a bit more boost on the starting line hoping for a 9.99. Well the driver (me) made a boo boo.... when I staged the car it wasn't quite in far enough so I had to bump the trans brake once to roll it in. Which was fine EXCEPT for the fact that when I did that the boost controller thought I was starting the run. So while I was waiting for the lights to come down, the boost controller had started to ramp the boost in from 8psi to 20psi. So by the time I let go if the button it was at 20psi of boost! Well the picture pretty much says it all...lol That was the end of my weekend. No 9 sec time slip for now.
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
[Re: drifter]
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08/25/13 11:41 AM
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is there a chance the sprag might be hurt in the trans from this?
oh yeah!
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
[Re: WO23Coronet]
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08/25/13 12:41 PM
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That thing is making some snot! How does your boost control work in conjunction with the TB? Time for a Dana?
X2
And that thing is really trying to run....I want one.
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
[Re: dizuster]
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08/25/13 08:11 PM
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wow thaTS MAKING SOME steam  what u going do for a rear end now i was just asking about you and the turbo taxi  i got mine back together got boost now still has some carb problems
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
[Re: dizuster]
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08/27/13 10:45 AM
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Sorry about the hurt parts, but that's awesome!
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
[Re: dizuster]
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08/27/13 11:59 AM
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Mr.Yuck
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The lowest aftermarket ring and pinion made anymore is 3.55
just go to a taller tire the...  or a (I'll whisper) a 9"
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
[Re: HMcCandless_Jr]
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08/27/13 01:01 PM
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Trans is coming out before it makes another pass. It's already killed one sprag (even with an LBA valve body), so hopefully the new super sprag held.
I actaully have a Dana, but it's a 3.55 which is the lowest.
I'm sort of at a cross road right now. The problem is that this thing already has it's tounge hanging out at the finish line because it's under cammed. So I could really put more cam in it, and use the 3.55 gear.
But the car only has a roll bar (no roll cage). So do I really need more power/traction being that I've already gone 10.08?
If so I could put the Dana in it, new cam, and a few more bars (plus window net), then get my license, etc... but in the end it's still a cast crank, stock rod, stock block motor... so how much harder am I really going to push this thing.
I'm debating right now what to do. I may sell the motor (and my '71 duster project), and build a new turbo hemi to really see how quick we can make this ol' heap. Or I may sell the whole car and build the new turbo Gen 3 hemi for my '71 duster that I have.
Just trying to think it through... for now it's just going to get the 2.76 and get back to racing the rest of this year with my ol' man (dvw).
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
[Re: dizuster]
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08/27/13 01:06 PM
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There is a little more to the 9 sec club than the net and some bars. We have been getting our Duster ready, and did all that plus we need to add a gas pedal tow hook padding on all bars that your helmet could hit, solid rod for the throttle, still need a diaper, got all the trans sheild, -5SFI suit, bunch of stuff...So its adds cost, and it can make sitting in the car that much less enjoyable. Its a decision you have to make....Sweet little turbo motor you got there though. We have a 512 running the same ET..on pump gas.
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
[Re: dizuster]
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08/27/13 01:10 PM
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Trans is coming out before it makes another pass. It's already killed one sprag (even with an LBA valve body), so hopefully the new super sprag held.
I actaully have a Dana, but it's a 3.55 which is the lowest.
I'm sort of at a cross road right now. The problem is that this thing already has it's tounge hanging out at the finish line because it's under cammed. So I could really put more cam in it, and use the 3.55 gear.
But the car only has a roll bar (no roll cage). So do I really need more power/traction being that I've already gone 10.08?
If so I could put the Dana in it, new cam, and a few more bars (plus window net), then get my license, etc... but in the end it's still a cast crank, stock rod, stock block motor... so how much harder am I really going to push this thing.
I'm debating right now what to do. I may sell the motor (and my '71 duster project), and build a new turbo hemi to really see how quick we can make this ol' heap. Or I may sell the whole car and build the new turbo Gen 3 hemi for my '71 duster that I have.
Just trying to think it through... for now it's just going to get the 2.76 and get back to racing the rest of this year with my ol' man (dvw).
Scott... run what you have... going sub 10.0 isnt all
that great.. it cost lots of money and a PITA for
all of the crap... I had a lot more fun when I was
running 10.0
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
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08/27/13 02:24 PM
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Note to self, 8 3/4 is good to 10.09 in 3500 lb car......
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
[Re: Thumperdart]
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08/27/13 03:48 PM
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Mr.Yuck
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Been following your post and this is some awesome stuff for sure minus the carnage of course. Definately considered a power adder but not any time soon................keep up the good work. 
Thump can you imagine what 100 more cubic inches could do???
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
[Re: dizuster]
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08/27/13 07:50 PM
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Looks like you had some grip to break the pinion. BTW- regardless of whatever gear ratio you throw at it just keep in mind that it broke the pinion before any torque multiplication through the diff gears , meaning that any gear you use will be susceptible to this failure.
I would look into a steel front planetary if you don't already have one.
Allan G.
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1986 T-Type with 272 Stage 2 Buick V6 engine - True 8 second street car. Just updated the engine and put down 928 HP @ 35# boost to the ground on chasis dyno.
1976 Cee Bee Avenger Jet Boat - 460 Ford powered.
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
[Re: danbob]
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08/28/13 10:11 AM
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That thing is cool. Like Mr. P said, running sub 10s is a pain.
Easy to maintain, fast and fun. You have the best of both worlds.
If it were mine, a 9" would find its way in there. Good luck.
P.S. What kind of gas mileage does it get??
the cool thing about it is that he can dial it up and run a few 9's then back it off and stay in the legal 10's or whatever your car will "tech" to.
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
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08/28/13 06:59 PM
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It is pretty amazing that you can just dial this thing up and down. I made a pass on 10psi right before the 10.08 pass. It went 11.22@121mph, smooth as silk. Crazy that the same car can run a full second faster with a few key strokes on the laptop. I would love to try leaving in 2nd, but the trans brake only works in 1st gear.
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
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08/28/13 09:16 PM
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Dizuster, What were your short times? We only run 1/8 mile down here in the south and I cannot relate to the 1/4 mile times. I have a 360/380 hp crate motor I would like to experiment with the turbo deal. THANKS.....
1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
[Re: dizuster]
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08/28/13 10:52 PM
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Thanks, if you could get your 60 ft. better you would run nines easy. I know turbo cars run better on the top end. You should look into getting it a little lighter it would really pick up.I know that is easier said than done.Thanks..
1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!!
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08/29/13 12:38 AM
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I thought Ford had a 3.33 gear they used in Dana 60's in half ton Vans at some point to.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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