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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: dizuster] #1490177
08/27/13 10:45 AM
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Sorry about the hurt parts, but that's awesome!


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: dizuster] #1490178
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Call the Doctor Diff, he might have some rare ring and pinions hanging around. Plus he knows how to built a mean rear diff.

Good luck and congrats. That thing is hauling the Mess hall mail.

Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: dizuster] #1490179
08/27/13 11:59 AM
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The lowest aftermarket ring and pinion made anymore is 3.55




just go to a taller tire the... or a (I'll whisper) a 9"

Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1490180
08/27/13 12:32 PM
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if it ever hooks up going that fast it will break the 8-3/4, invest in a Dana you will save money, also make sure it didn't break the sprag in the trans when it freewheeled, if so the tranny will only make one more pass.

Herb Jr

Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: HMcCandless_Jr] #1490181
08/27/13 01:01 PM
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Trans is coming out before it makes another pass. It's already killed one sprag (even with an LBA valve body), so hopefully the new super sprag held.

I actaully have a Dana, but it's a 3.55 which is the lowest.

I'm sort of at a cross road right now. The problem is that this thing already has it's tounge hanging out at the finish line because it's under cammed. So I could really put more cam in it, and use the 3.55 gear.

But the car only has a roll bar (no roll cage). So do I really need more power/traction being that I've already gone 10.08?

If so I could put the Dana in it, new cam, and a few more bars (plus window net), then get my license, etc... but in the end it's still a cast crank, stock rod, stock block motor... so how much harder am I really going to push this thing.

I'm debating right now what to do. I may sell the motor (and my '71 duster project), and build a new turbo hemi to really see how quick we can make this ol' heap. Or I may sell the whole car and build the new turbo Gen 3 hemi for my '71 duster that I have.

Just trying to think it through... for now it's just going to get the 2.76 and get back to racing the rest of this year with my ol' man (dvw).

Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: dizuster] #1490182
08/27/13 01:06 PM
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There is a little more to the 9 sec club than the net and some bars. We have been getting our Duster ready, and did all that plus we need to add a gas pedal tow hook padding on all bars that your helmet could hit, solid rod for the throttle, still need a diaper, got all the trans sheild, -5SFI suit, bunch of stuff...So its adds cost, and it can make sitting in the car that much less enjoyable. Its a decision you have to make....Sweet little turbo motor you got there though. We have a 512 running the same ET..on pump gas.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: Dragula] #1490183
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agreed. That combo is sweet and maintenance easy with the exception of the now weak link 8-3/4.

Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: dizuster] #1490184
08/27/13 01:10 PM
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Trans is coming out before it makes another pass. It's already killed one sprag (even with an LBA valve body), so hopefully the new super sprag held.

I actaully have a Dana, but it's a 3.55 which is the lowest.

I'm sort of at a cross road right now. The problem is that this thing already has it's tounge hanging out at the finish line because it's under cammed. So I could really put more cam in it, and use the 3.55 gear.

But the car only has a roll bar (no roll cage). So do I really need more power/traction being that I've already gone 10.08?

If so I could put the Dana in it, new cam, and a few more bars (plus window net), then get my license, etc... but in the end it's still a cast crank, stock rod, stock block motor... so how much harder am I really going to push this thing.

I'm debating right now what to do. I may sell the motor (and my '71 duster project), and build a new turbo hemi to really see how quick we can make this ol' heap. Or I may sell the whole car and build the new turbo Gen 3 hemi for my '71 duster that I have.

Just trying to think it through... for now it's just going to get the 2.76 and get back to racing the rest of this year with my ol' man (dvw).




Scott... run what you have... going sub 10.0 isnt all
that great.. it cost lots of money and a PITA for
all of the crap... I had a lot more fun when I was
running 10.0

Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: dizuster] #1490185
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Dizuster

A friend of mine here in NY has a NOS 489 case 7290 yoke 276 sure grip Pumpkin for sale. If you are interested, I'll get you in touch with him.

Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1490186
08/27/13 01:41 PM
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fullmetal... thanks for the offer. I already have the 2.76 gear that is already shimmed up and ready to go. Just need to swap it back into this case and set the backlash.

As for the 10.0 comments... I know it's a PITA that's why I'm hesitant just to push this motor a little more for 9.70 or something.

If I'm going to go for it, I'll build a bigger single turbo Gen 3 hemi and push the 8.50 cage rule...

Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: dizuster] #1490187
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Note to self, 8 3/4 is good to 10.09 in 3500 lb car......


Mopar to the bone!!!
Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: 72Swinger] #1490188
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lol... 3700lb car...

Well that's not true. It had made about 7 passes before that, so the fuel tank wasn't full, so maybe 3660...

Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: dizuster] #1490189
08/27/13 03:18 PM
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Been following your post and this is some awesome stuff for sure minus the carnage of course. Definately considered a power adder but not any time soon................keep up the good work.


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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: Thumperdart] #1490190
08/27/13 03:48 PM
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Been following your post and this is some awesome stuff for sure minus the carnage of course. Definately considered a power adder but not any time soon................keep up the good work.




Thump can you imagine what 100 more cubic inches could do???

Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1490191
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Yes I can............ He`s already killin the 8 3/4 and mines on edge I`m sure right now...........but, definately tempting.......


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Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: dizuster] #1490192
08/27/13 07:50 PM
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Looks like you had some grip to break the pinion. BTW- regardless of whatever gear ratio you throw at it just keep in mind that it broke the pinion before any torque multiplication through the diff gears , meaning that any gear you use will be susceptible to this failure.
I would look into a steel front planetary if you don't already have one.
Allan G.


1970 Challenger w/572 Hemi street car and my pride and joy. 1986 T-Type with 272 Stage 2 Buick V6 engine - True 8 second street car. Just updated the engine and put down 928 HP @ 35# boost to the ground on chasis dyno. 1976 Cee Bee Avenger Jet Boat - 460 Ford powered.
Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: turbobitt] #1490193
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That thing is cool. Like Mr. P said, running sub 10s is a pain.
Easy to maintain, fast and fun. You have the best of both worlds.
If it were mine, a 9" would find its way in there. Good luck.
P.S. What kind of gas mileage does it get??

Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: danbob] #1490194
08/28/13 10:11 AM
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That thing is cool. Like Mr. P said, running sub 10s is a pain.
Easy to maintain, fast and fun. You have the best of both worlds.
If it were mine, a 9" would find its way in there. Good luck.
P.S. What kind of gas mileage does it get??




the cool thing about it is that he can dial it up and run a few 9's then back it off and stay in the legal 10's or whatever your car will "tech" to.

Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: danbob] #1490195
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True that to the most.
The Nines are not benign.
No dents from the tens on your wallet. LOL.

or................. just lighten that pup up and go to any race and say whatsup?

Re: Soooooo close to the 9's!!!!! [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1490196
08/28/13 06:24 PM
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That is a WAY cool HotRod

On the ratio thing,,,,could you launch in 2nd gear?
Seems I`ve read some others have done this too,don`t know what goes with it terms of do`s/don`ts


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