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1 5/16 socket #1487051
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http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=1+5%2F16+sockets

Anyone ever took one of these to 170ft.lb. on a pinion nut?

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: racerx] #1487052
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I'm sure it will go once

Seriously I have run facilities known as Auto Hobby Shops, a self and guided help garage if you will for the troops, in the Air Force for years and seen those larger Harbor Freight sockets used for much higher torque values than that over the years for FWD spindle nuts and Honda balancers with are at values in excess of 400ft/lbs without failure. IMO you will be fine.


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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: Al_Alguire] #1487053
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Thax I'm in need of a 1 5/16 socket to fit inside a yoke and all i have is a 3/4 drive socket(1 5/16)and it will not fit inside the yoke and thought if this will work.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: racerx] #1487054
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Can you grind the OD of the socket down to fit?
I have a bunch of them like that for pinion work.


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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1487055
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I thought about that only if i can find a old socket.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: racerx] #1487056
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Plenty of options on Amazon. Here is a cheap one.....

http://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-14408-16-In...1+5%2F16+socket


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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: racerx] #1487057
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I use the 1 5/16" Napa Evercraft socket.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: racerx] #1487058
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I found pinion nut on the Dana 60 in my Demon loose at gateway msp, and the highway to St. Louis was backed all the to the race track so I just went to the Granite City Oreillys and rented a 33mm, same as a 1-5/16, for $10. It was a nice HD impact socket so I did not take it back, just kept it and put it in the trailer tool box.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: qwkmopardan] #1487059
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Thax's fellas

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: qwkmopardan] #1487060
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I just went to the Granite City Oreillys and rented a 33mm, same as a 1-5/16, for $10. It was a nice HD impact socket so I did not take it back, just kept it and put it in the trailer tool box.




So there you have it ... when you need a tool, just go and steal it.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: Stanton] #1487061
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Auto parts tool rentals are meant to be that way. Rent and return or keep it if you wish.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: qwkmopardan] #1487062
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Auto parts tool rentals are meant to be that way. Rent and return or keep it if you wish.




For some reason I don't think it's supposed to work that way. If it was $10 for the rental and a $40 deposit I'd agree.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: justinp61] #1487063
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It IS meant to be that way. How much is one socket worth?
It's just a little more honest way to get a socket for a few hours than buying it, using it then cleaning it and returning it, saying "I didn't want it after all."
R.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: dogdays] #1487064
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Yep, thats the way it is around here too. You put down a deposit that is really the Value of the tool. Its a Free rental, but if you want it, you can keep it and they keep your payment.

They will tell you that right up front, Auto Zone, Oreilly, and Advanced auto, all have that policy here in Canton, Ohio.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: justinp61] #1487065
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This is way off topic, thanks to a moron that makes a post calling someone a thieve that he knows nothing about. Why don't the mods kick people like this off for posting on topics that have nothing to do with the topic.

Stanton:
Well folks there you have it, I have all the proof I need. They do let MORONS on these sites!!!!!!!!

Justinp61:
Yes it is meant to be that way. They charge you the retail price + sales tax and if it is not returned in a couple days they order in a new one. I know this for sure at AZ and Oreillys. They offer the rental program to keep the real thieves from buying a tool using it and returning it. if the renter decides he likes the tool and wants to keep it, he has already paid for it. I just had a conversation with my local Oreilly parts store manager [also a former AZ employee], about this and he says rent and return for a 100% return of $$$$ or keep it if you wish.

My post was letting the original poster know he can use a decent tool for free or buy it for a reasonable price rather than pay for a pretty much useless HF tool.

BTW if anyone is at the same race track as me and needs a 1 5/16" socket I have one in the trailer that you are welcome to use, except Stanton

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: qwkmopardan] #1487066
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This is way off topic, thanks to a moron that makes a post calling someone a thieve that he knows nothing about. Why don't the mods kick people like this off for posting on topics that have nothing to about the topic.

Well folks there you have it, I have all the proof I need. They do let MORONS on these sites!!!!!!!!

Yes it is meant to be that way. They charge you the retail price + sales tax and if it is not returned in a couple days they order in a new one. I know this for sure at AZ and Oreillys. They offer the rental program to keep the real thieves from buying a tool using it and returning it. if the renter decides he likes the tool and wants to keep it, he has already paid for it. I just had a conversation with my local Oreilly parts store manager [also a former AZ employee], about this and he says rent and return for a 100% return of $$$$ or keep it if you wish.

My post was letting the original poster know he can use a decent tool for free or buy it for a reasonable price rather than pay for a pretty much useless HF tool.

BTW if anyone is at the same race track as me and needs a 1 5/16" socket I have one in the trailer that you are welcome to use, except Stanton


Too cool............Stanton had some nice things to say to me a while back while nestled safely behind his keyboard..........forgiven but NEVER forgotten.

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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: Thumperdart] #1487067
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Love the hate , guys. Love the hate.
Or if I may paraphrase my late Father....." The three of youse....."
I have a Craftsman in 1/2' drive that is much thinner than an impact socket......you can buy them one at a time in 6 or 12 point and they aren't all that expensive.
Seems to me I got it after getting a 3/4 " drive with an adapter for something or other. Harley primary drive ?........but they didn't have the 1/2 " drive in stock at the time.
I do have a couple 3/4" drive sockets for when I need to stand on the end of 6" of pipe to reach spec.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: tubtar] #1487068
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I don`t hate anyone just some of the hatefull ignorant things some say..........


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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: justinp61] #1487069
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Auto parts tool rentals are meant to be that way. Rent and return or keep it if you wish.




For some reason I don't think it's supposed to work that way. If it was $10 for the rental and a $40 deposit I'd agree.




1000%.. if you dont return the next person
cant get it... I was gonna rent the cam bearing install
kit from my local parts store... I had used it before
and the last time the guy didnt return... they didnt
want to replace the $200 kit

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: racerx] #1487070
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Racers, I've had great luck with harbor freight impact sockets over the years. The last craftsman tools I bought were china made, I figure if I'm going to buy china made tools I might as well pay china made prices.

I've never rented tools so I guess I'm not qualified to comment on it. The last big socket I bought was well over $40.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1487071
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Mike, around here , they encourage it if you decide to keep them.

To them its just another way to get a tool Sale I agree back in the day, a rental was supposed to be a rental. But not anymore brother, around here its a encouraged tool sale.

And I do see why in your case, they didnt want to replace a cam bearing install tool. How many average Joes install thier own cam bearings. I would, and you would, but not many others.

The Stores I mentioned, encourage the keep policy. Sale, Sale, Sale.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: Sport440] #1487072
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Mike, around here , they encourage it if you decide to keep them.

To them its just another way to get a tool Sale I agree back in the day, a rental was supposed to be a rental. But not anymore brother, around here its a encouraged tool sale.

And I do see why in your case, they didnt want to replace a cam bearing install tool. How many average Joes install thier own cam bearings. I would, and you would, but not many others.

The Stores I mentioned, encourage the keep policy. Sale, Sale, Sale.




Well if you were to buy that SAME socket its more
than $10 to buy... so they expected it to return..
some of the places around here will take your drivers
license number to make you return it... the only reason
they offer a cheap deposit is so you wont have to
lay out the big buck for the tool itself(being NICE)
if they really want to make the sale on a rental tool
it would be the same price... not 1/2 the price

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1487073
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Mike, here in Canton, Ohio, the Deposits arent Cheap, They are the Value of the Tool.

I rented a Ball jount kit awhile back and it was $90 bucks. Just got off the phone with AutoZone to varify, and they are now $100.

AutoZone had them in stock, you could either rent them for the $100 or Keep them, or KEEEP them.

The $100 covered thier cost and then some. Its the New Sales trend. Now places like Napa, may not be doing it, but the three stores I mentioned are.

Soon, if not already, most of them chain stores IMO will be doing the same. They all learn together. Sale, Sale , Sale, Mike, Trust me its the new way.

No Cheap Deposits here.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: Sport440] #1487074
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Mike, here in Canton, Ohio, the Deposits arent Cheap, They are the Value of the Tool.

I rented a Ball jount kit awhile back and it was $90 bucks. Just got off the phone with AutoZone to varify, and they are now $100.

AutoZone had them in stock, you could either rent them for the $100 or Keep them, or KEEEP them.

The $100 covered thier cost and then some. Its the New Sales trend. Now places like Napa, may not be doing it, but the three stores I mentioned are.

Soon, if not already, most of them chain stores IMO will be doing the same. They all learn together. Sale, Sale , Sale, Mike, Trust me its the new way.

No Cheap Deposits here.




I deal MAINLY with one store in town... I'm in there
damn near everyday.. for the cam too they only asked
me for a $45 deposit.. but they knew it was coming
back... they had $100 deposit on it when it didnt come
back... I sure hope the places around here dont jack
up the deposit rate so high that its easier to buy the tool

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1487075
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[ I sure hope the places around here dont jack
up the deposit rate so high that its easier to buy the tool





I hear you Mike But its not to bad after the shock of it. I just put it on the credit card, and it gets taken right back off a day or so later when and if I return it. . No harm no foul.

So far I havent kept anything, though I did consider keeping the ball joint tool. It was new and sweet.

Sorry to hear you wont be making DW, I was going to be watching that for updates. Next year maybe, I know its not easy. I couldnt do it.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: Sport440] #1487076
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Sorry to hear you wont be making DW, I was going to be watching that for updates. Next year maybe, I know its not easy. I couldnt do it.




As soon as I finish working on my trailer I'm gonna
pull the intake and heads to see if I can find
the problem(its one or the other) but I was thinking
to milling the pedestals off my econo W-2s so I can use my
W-5 rockers(my W-2s rockers have wear, where the
springs were hitting).. still looking at ways to fix this..
unless I have a set of W-2 rockers hiding some where

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: qwkmopardan] #1487077
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Quote:

This is way off topic, thanks to a moron that makes a post calling someone a thieve that he knows nothing about. Why don't the mods kick people like this off for posting on topics that have nothing to do with the topic.

Stanton:
Well folks there you have it, I have all the proof I need. They do let MORONS on these sites!!!!!!!!

Justinp61:
Yes it is meant to be that way. They charge you the retail price + sales tax and if it is not returned in a couple days they order in a new one. I know this for sure at AZ and Oreillys. They offer the rental program to keep the real thieves from buying a tool using it and returning it. if the renter decides he likes the tool and wants to keep it, he has already paid for it. I just had a conversation with my local Oreilly parts store manager [also a former AZ employee], about this and he says rent and return for a 100% return of $$$$ or keep it if you wish.

My post was letting the original poster know he can use a decent tool for free or buy it for a reasonable price rather than pay for a pretty much useless HF tool.

BTW if anyone is at the same race track as me and needs a 1 5/16" socket I have one in the trailer that you are welcome to use, except Stanton



So if someone borrows your socket and decides to keep it that's o.k. under your set of morals right
Gus


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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1487078
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This is way off topic, thanks to a moron that makes a post calling someone a thieve that he knows nothing about. Why don't the mods kick people like this off for posting on topics that have nothing to do with the topic.

Stanton:
Well folks there you have it, I have all the proof I need. They do let MORONS on these sites!!!!!!!!

Justinp61:
Yes it is meant to be that way. They charge you the retail price + sales tax and if it is not returned in a couple days they order in a new one. I know this for sure at AZ and Oreillys. They offer the rental program to keep the real thieves from buying a tool using it and returning it. if the renter decides he likes the tool and wants to keep it, he has already paid for it. I just had a conversation with my local Oreilly parts store manager [also a former AZ employee], about this and he says rent and return for a 100% return of $$$$ or keep it if you wish.

My post was letting the original poster know he can use a decent tool for free or buy it for a reasonable price rather than pay for a pretty much useless HF tool.

BTW if anyone is at the same race track as me and needs a 1 5/16" socket I have one in the trailer that you are welcome to use, except Stanton



So if someone borrows your socket and decides to keep it that's o.k. under your set of morals right
Gus




Did you miss the part where you have to leave a deposit to rent the tool and the deposit is enough to cover the cost of the tool (in this case a socket)?

If a person buys a socket from the parts store uses it once and then returns it for a full refund it's no longer a new item and can't be sold a such.

If they have a rental tool and someone rents it once they've paid for the tool in most case (a socket especially).
The next time it's rented it's pure profit.
If the tool renter decides it's better to keep it for the deposit price (which is usually enough to cover it's replacement at the parts store) the store simply replaces it with one off the shelf.

The store essentially sold a used socket and got paid for a new one.

It's not a hard concept to grasp.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: SNK-EYZ] #1487079
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All of the local parts stores around here do the loaner tool program. Autozone, Napa, Oreillys and even the local mom and pop place.

As stated you pay 100% of the retail price for the rental, you have 24-48 hours to return the tool or you bought it. Pretty simple. Keeping it IS NOT STEALING.

I bought and used a 33mm socket for the job last time I pulled the yoke off.


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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: SNK-EYZ] #1487080
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This is way off topic, thanks to a moron that makes a post calling someone a thieve that he knows nothing about. Why don't the mods kick people like this off for posting on topics that have nothing to do with the topic.

Stanton:
Well folks there you have it, I have all the proof I need. They do let MORONS on these sites!!!!!!!!

Justinp61:
Yes it is meant to be that way. They charge you the retail price + sales tax and if it is not returned in a couple days they order in a new one. I know this for sure at AZ and Oreillys. They offer the rental program to keep the real thieves from buying a tool using it and returning it. if the renter decides he likes the tool and wants to keep it, he has already paid for it. I just had a conversation with my local Oreilly parts store manager [also a former AZ employee], about this and he says rent and return for a 100% return of $$$$ or keep it if you wish.

My post was letting the original poster know he can use a decent tool for free or buy it for a reasonable price rather than pay for a pretty much useless HF tool.

BTW if anyone is at the same race track as me and needs a 1 5/16" socket I have one in the trailer that you are welcome to use, except Stanton



So if someone borrows your socket and decides to keep it that's o.k. under your set of morals right
Gus




Did you miss the part where you have to leave a deposit to rent the tool and the deposit is enough to cover the cost of the tool (in this case a socket)?

If a person buys a socket from the parts store uses it once and then returns it for a full refund it's no longer a new item and can't be sold a such.

If they have a rental tool and someone rents it once they've paid for the tool in most case (a socket especially).
The next time it's rented it's pure profit.
If the tool renter decides it's better to keep it for the deposit price (which is usually enough to cover it's replacement at the parts store) the store simply replaces it with one off the shelf.

The store essentially sold a used socket and got paid for a new one.

It's not a hard concept to grasp.
The "concept" some of you can't seem to grasp is a verbal or written agreement that you are renting a tool with the understanding that you will return it when you are done.Thieves are too ignorant or unskilled to make the money to buy the tool they need, either that or they lack the moral compass to honor a contract ,which category do you fall into?
Gus


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All of the local parts stores around here do the loaner tool program. Autozone, Napa, Oreillys and even the local mom and pop place.

As stated you pay 100% of the retail price for the rental, you have 24-48 hours to return the tool or you bought it. Pretty simple. Keeping it IS NOT STEALING.

I bought and used a 33mm socket for the job last time I pulled the yoke off.



So you "BOUGHT" a 33mm socket to do the job now there's an interesting concept
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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1487082
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So if someone borrows your socket and decides to keep it that's o.k. under your set of morals right
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Did you miss the part where you have to leave a deposit to rent the tool and the deposit is enough to cover the cost of the tool (in this case a socket)?

If a person buys a socket from the parts store uses it once and then returns it for a full refund it's no longer a new item and can't be sold a such.

If they have a rental tool and someone rents it once they've paid for the tool in most case (a socket especially).
The next time it's rented it's pure profit.
If the tool renter decides it's better to keep it for the deposit price (which is usually enough to cover it's replacement at the parts store) the store simply replaces it with one off the shelf.

The store essentially sold a used socket and got paid for a new one.

It's not a hard concept to grasp.




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The "concept" some of you can't seem to grasp is a verbal or written agreement that you are renting a tool with the understanding that you will return it when you are done.
Thieves are too ignorant or unskilled to make the money to buy the tool they need, either that or they lack the moral compass to honor a contract ,which category do you fall into?
Gus







If you've borrowed (not rented) a tool and don't return it then you've stolen it.
If you take a tool out of the someones truck or trailer without permission, you've stolen it.

The auto parts store know full well up front that the tool may not be returned when they rent it.
They took a deposit large enough to cover the cost of it's replacement.

As has been stated, they don't really care if you bring it back.
They got paid for it by the deposit you made on it!

A friend is a Store Manager at an Autozone and he said that's how it works.


BTW, I don't rent tools from auto parts store or anywhere else.
I just understand what they are saying about how tool rentals work at auto parts stores.


I have my own 36 year collection of tools some of which Chrysler supplier me with.
My toolboxes are probably older than alot of the people on here.

Gus, if you're posting from work aren't you essentially stealing from your employer by being on Moparts when you're supposed to be working?


Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: qwkmopardan] #1487083
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This is way off topic, thanks to a moron that makes a post calling someone a thieve that he knows nothing about. Why don't the mods kick people like this off for posting on topics that have nothing to do with the topic.

Stanton:
Well folks there you have it, I have all the proof I need. They do let MORONS on these sites!!!!!!!!

Justinp61:
Yes it is meant to be that way. They charge you the retail price + sales tax and if it is not returned in a couple days they order in a new one. I know this for sure at AZ and Oreillys. They offer the rental program to keep the real thieves from buying a tool using it and returning it. if the renter decides he likes the tool and wants to keep it, he has already paid for it. I just had a conversation with my local Oreilly parts store manager [also a former AZ employee], about this and he says rent and return for a 100% return of $$$$ or keep it if you wish.

My post was letting the original poster know he can use a decent tool for free or buy it for a reasonable price rather than pay for a pretty much useless HF tool.

BTW if anyone is at the same race track as me and needs a 1 5/16" socket I have one in the trailer that you are welcome to use, except Stanton




The way you wrote the post said you "rented" the socket for $10 and then kept it. Anyone with even a Grade 5 grasp of the English language would get the same message that Stanton and myself (among others) did and that was you stole it. Sorry. Nowhere in the post does it say that the retail price for said socket is also $10 and that the store policy is "rent it or keep it" which makes no sense at all. Why would anybody rent a $10 socket for $10?

Kevin

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: SNK-EYZ] #1487084
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So if someone borrows your socket and decides to keep it that's o.k. under your set of morals right
Gus



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Did you miss the part where you have to leave a deposit to rent the tool and the deposit is enough to cover the cost of the tool (in this case a socket)?

If a person buys a socket from the parts store uses it once and then returns it for a full refund it's no longer a new item and can't be sold a such.

If they have a rental tool and someone rents it once they've paid for the tool in most case (a socket especially).
The next time it's rented it's pure profit.
If the tool renter decides it's better to keep it for the deposit price (which is usually enough to cover it's replacement at the parts store) the store simply replaces it with one off the shelf.

The store essentially sold a used socket and got paid for a new one.

It's not a hard concept to grasp.




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The "concept" some of you can't seem to grasp is a verbal or written agreement that you are renting a tool with the understanding that you will return it when you are done.
Thieves are too ignorant or unskilled to make the money to buy the tool they need, either that or they lack the moral compass to honor a contract ,which category do you fall into?
Gus







The auto parts store know full well up front that the tool may not be returned when they rent it.
They took a deposit large enough to cover the cost of it's replacement.

As has been stated, they don't really care if you bring it back.
They got paid for it by the deposit you made on it!


Gus, if you're posting from work aren't you essentially stealing from your employer by being on Moparts when you're supposed to be working?




Whether they care if you bring it back or the deposit covers the cost of the tool does not make it any less stolen if you in fact rented it and I'm pretty sure Gus works in a flat rate shop.

Kevin

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I guess I thought everyone knew the auto part chain store loan/rental tool program. You basicly buy the tool with the option to return it for a full refund. This is a great deal for a tool you know you will never need again. You may get a brand new tool or you may get a used one. The 33mm socket I rented/bought for $10+ sales tax was used. I decided to use the keep if I wish option, and put it in the race car trailer tool box. The store associate that rented it to me made it clear I could keep the socket if I so desired. I also purchased the socket on my Oreillys commercial account, so if I did indeed "steal" the socket I think they could find me fairly easy or close or suspend my account.

Any one that's doubts the rental deal, as I and others on here have explained it, should stop in at the nearest AZ, Orelly, or Advance store and ask the manager.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: qwkmopardan] #1487087
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I rented a Chevy Malibu a few weeks back for only
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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: BDS871Cuda] #1487088
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I rented a Chevy Malibu a few weeks back for only
$150, dang, I should of kept it !!!!





It's not worth that much.


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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: Thumperdart] #1487089
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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: pittsburghracer] #1487090
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Bingo.


I learned how to rent a socket............


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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: BDS871Cuda] #1487091
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I rented a Chevy Malibu a few weeks back for only
$150, dang, I should of kept it !!!!





Now that's funny right there and I don't care who you are.


Jerry Williams.
Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: Thumperdart] #1487092
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Now I'm thinking about checking out a new Chevy Malibu.

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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1487093
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Thank you sir.

It's very simple. It's either renting or buying. One method dictates returning the item, regardless of any monies exchanged. it's not a real complicated concept.
When you walk through the grocery store and grab 1 grape from the produce stand, that's not stealing, correct? Your just "sampling", right?
Doesn't really matter though because grocery stores are owned by the large, evil corporations, right? They make too much money already, right?
And you wonder where our kids get their morals from.

Pat


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Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: zzyzxpat] #1487094
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Thank you sir.

It's very simple. It's either renting or buying. One method dictates returning the item, regardless of any monies exchanged. it's not a real complicated concept.

Pat





Yes it is very simple

Bring it back, you were just renting it

Keep it and you are buying it.

RENT or BUY, its your choice!

Its the new way the chains are making more sales, its not a real complicated concept to grasp!

Well you wouldnt think, anyways.

Its not a Moral issue at all.


I feel its a Great Sales Tactic myself!
Its the Stores new policies.

CALL them yourself. Auto Zone, Oreillys, or Advanced.


Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: Thumperdart] #1487095
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Let me clear this right up!
After have been a manager at both Autozone and Advance or over 10 years, the tools in question are to be used or kept by the person who rents them it is called a rental for the reason that most people will only do the job 1 time and have no need for the tool, so,
You can go in and buy these same tools for the same price as a rental just know that you may not be able to return it once used!
If rented or loanedit can be returned at anytime given a certain time frame after that the tool can not be returned unless the manager on duty allows it.
To even consider someone who rents these tools as a thief knows nothing of how or why companies do loaner rental tool programs , some are just confused souls.
and would argue the sky is black not blue!

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Now I'm thinking about checking out a new Chevy Malibu.



The tools in question can either be kept brought back it is the person is doing the job choice as to what he wants to do!
if the store do not replenish the items that is the store issue not those who rent /loan and decide to keep the tool, not stealing part of the stores comitment to provide service and a way to sell tools or have them returned for others to use ,
you realy need to be reeducated on what stores do and why they do,
your paying for the tool, the store makes millions of dollars yearly off rental tools!

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: Sport440] #1487097
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Thank you sir.

It's very simple. It's either renting or buying. One method dictates returning the item, regardless of any monies exchanged. it's not a real complicated concept.

Pat





Yes it is very simple

Bring it back, you were just renting it

Keep it and you are buying it.

RENT or BUY, its your choice!

Its the new way the chains are making more sales, its not a real complicated concept to grasp!

Well you wouldnt think, anyways.

Its not a Moral issue at all.


I feel its a Great Sales Tactic myself!
Its the Stores new policies.

CALL them yourself. Auto Zone, Oreillys, or Advanced.




Exactly!!!it's not rocket science folks,if it was I can see we would be doomed to fail. The retail cost of the item is charged up front. Whats so hard to comprehend??? No wonder folks rely of Fox news to help them guess what's going on.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: goldmember] #1487098
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Thank you sir.

It's very simple. It's either renting or buying. One method dictates returning the item, regardless of any monies exchanged. it's not a real complicated concept.

Pat





Yes it is very simple

Bring it back, you were just renting it

Keep it and you are buying it.

RENT or BUY, its your choice!

Its the new way the chains are making more sales, its not a real complicated concept to grasp!

Well you wouldnt think, anyways.

Its not a Moral issue at all.


I feel its a Great Sales Tactic myself!
Its the Stores new policies.

CALL them yourself. Auto Zone, Oreillys, or Advanced.




Exactly!!!it's not rocket science folks,if it was I can see we would be doomed to fail. The retail cost of the item is charged up front. Whats so hard to comprehend??? No wonder folks rely of Fox news to help them guess what's going on.




Then they sell some cheap sockets... I pay way more
than $10 for a 1 5/16" socket

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1487099
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Thank you sir.

It's very simple. It's either renting or buying. One method dictates returning the item, regardless of any monies exchanged. it's not a real complicated concept.

Pat





Yes it is very simple

Bring it back, you were just renting it

Keep it and you are buying it.

RENT or BUY, its your choice!

Its the new way the chains are making more sales, its not a real complicated concept to grasp!

Well you wouldnt think, anyways.

Its not a Moral issue at all.


I feel its a Great Sales Tactic myself!
Its the Stores new policies.

CALL them yourself. Auto Zone, Oreillys, or Advanced.




Exactly!!!it's not rocket science folks,if it was I can see we would be doomed to fail. The retail cost of the item is charged up front. Whats so hard to comprehend??? No wonder folks rely of Fox news to help them guess what's going on.




Then they sell some cheap sockets... I pay way more
than $10 for a 1 5/16" socket



Who said they sold some great made in USA(if there are such thing) sockets? Common sense says when you enter a parts store you will get junk. Sorry if that is not news but to me it is logic.

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1487100
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Mr p body,, the tools are bought through companies that make a lot of tools you buy and pay more for,,
When Autozone first came out with the Duralast name branding,, those tools was made by Blue Point, the customer division of Snap On brand tools,
The same goes for Advance,
Granted almost all tools made now are made overseas, but the quality has risen a lot , can you get sub par tools From them ? Sure it is like any other item ,,, failures do happen.

I do not understand why some are taking issue over RENTAL/LOANER/PURCHASE of tools??
Best thing for those whom do not understand that concept need to go to the stores that do it, and ask,, look over some of the tools some are very very good quality, and the prices are very good whether you rent it ,, or keep it !

Re: 1 5/16 socket [Re: dennismopar73] #1487101
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Last Wednesday night at the weekly car guy get together which was held at our buddy Dan's house we talked about this thread and renting tools/sockets.

What Dan had to say is relevant because Dan is an Autozone Store Manager.

He said, He can sell you a crap socket that is guaranteed to be a piece of crap for $10.
Once you open the package you cannot return it.
As he said, more than likely it will break on you also.


He can rent you a better quality socket for $15.
He said you can choose to return the socket or keep it.

If you keep the socket it's fine buy them because Autozone corporate would rather have a $15 sale than refunding your deposit.

They get a sale profit rather than a no profit rental.

Does that make sense now?


Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
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