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Re: BB oil pump failure [Re: JohnRR] #1457460
06/24/13 11:39 PM
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If that happened, the car would not run or at least start backfiring and all that, no?




Why would it? The shaft spinning the oil pump is spun by the gear which is spun by the cam and kept from coming up by the distributor. You could drop just a gear in there with no oil pump shaft and the engine would run ... not for very long though




Guess maybe if the shaft broke right at the drive gear it might allow the drive to move out of it's spot then it would not run. If the shaft broke below the in block bushing then it should still run. If the shaft is spinning in the gear the motor should still fire.


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Re: BB oil pump failure [Re: moparmarks] #1457461
06/25/13 12:12 AM
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If the gear has a hard time turning the shaft which is driving the pump AND the tang on distrib and starts slipping the distrib will slow with the shaft and will shut the car down. Just sayin....as they say.

Re: BB oil pump failure [Re: dogdays] #1457462
06/25/13 12:17 AM
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Pressure relief valve stuck open.

It's a positive displacement pump. That pump is simplicity itself. If the rotor turns, it pumps. If the inlet is clogged, it pumps nothing. If the outlet is plugged, it pumps until something gives.

If the shaft is spinning in the rotor, you'll see something. Either it'll weld itself back on (friction welding) or it will make the hole bigger.

Pressure relief valve stuck open means pump pumps, oil goes right back into crankcase. Engine sees no pressure. Judging from the appearance of the pump, that's what happened.

R.




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Re: BB oil pump failure [Re: JoesMopar] #1457463
06/25/13 12:53 AM
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Agree if the distributor gear slipped, it would pop ect. If the hex broke, it wouldn't. Even if failure rate is 1 in 100 or 1 in 1000, the beefed OP drive is recommended with a HV pump for good reason. Its a nasty failure which the added load of the HV pump can cause.

Re: BB oil pump failure [Re: ahy] #1457464
06/25/13 01:11 AM
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Relief valve is stuck open. If that is an older Melling pump they had some issues years ago, bad castings. I had one do that, worked fine for about a week then stuck the valve.

Re: BB oil pump failure [Re: 4406bbl] #1457465
06/25/13 03:38 PM
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I also had a Melling pump fail about five years ago. Worked for most of a summer, then it died pulling into the garage. Thankfully I was home and the engine was idling.


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