Re: Dodge Warlock, trouble starting when it's hot outside.
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How does it turn over when hot? Are you saying it turns over fine but won't start? Spinning over and starting are two different things.
It turns over, but not as fast as when the motor is cold. It starts eventually, but I have to try it a few more times when the engine is hot. I wish I could explain it better, basically the motor turns over extremely slow when it's hot.
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Re: Dodge Warlock, trouble starting when it's hot outside.
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could be the battery cables, or the battery connection. I would take them off, scuff them up and the battery posts until they are all nice and bright. if that doesn't fix it, check the lug on the starter or the starter relay. simple things first
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Re: Dodge Warlock, trouble starting when it's hot outside.
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Slow turn over is either starter or the timing is too far advanced.
Is the timing affected by the temperature outside? I've been driving around for months with no issues. It's only happening now with the warm weather.
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Re: Dodge Warlock, trouble starting when it's hot outside.
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It's most likely the crap gas we have now boiling off.
After your next drive, take the aircleaner off and look down the throat of the carb. See if you can see any seepage anywhere.
In my truck when it's warm, I can't touch the throttle at all, and just crank it until it starts.
Otherwise find a phenolic spacer like mentioned above. It should keep the carb cooler to help prevent the fuel from boiling off.
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Re: Dodge Warlock, trouble starting when it's hot outside.
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since it starts up fine when the engine is cold, that tells me it's not the weather. are you running stock exhaust or headers? headers can cook starters, and make it hard to turn the engine over fast. We've had several days of 90 degree weather lately, and my '88 318 stock exhaust turns over and starts fine.
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Re: Dodge Warlock, trouble starting when it's hot outside.
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since it starts up fine when the engine is cold, that tells me it's not the weather. are you running stock exhaust or headers? headers can cook starters, and make it hard to turn the engine over fast. We've had several days of 90 degree weather lately, and my '88 318 stock exhaust turns over and starts fine.
I have stock exhaust on her. I have a buddy who is going to take a look at the truck in a couple of weeks, he knows MOPARS better than most mechanics so he should be able to sort te truck out.
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Re: Dodge Warlock, trouble starting when it's hot outside.
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All good avdvice. I went thru a spell of hard starting the first summer I had my 76 True Spirit (factory 440)done. I'm in AZ where 100+ temps are common and normally drive in an area that is at 4500 feet above sea level.
The 2 main poblems were:
The crap E10 Gas which is the only thing we can get around here. E10 tends to expand/boil at a lower temp than non belnd gas. When you stop and shut off the engine the carb soaks up heat and the gas expands and boils over into the intake, flooding the engine. The cure for that was a 1" phenolic spacer and setting the floats (Carter AFB) down just a bit.
The other problem was having the timing just a bit advanced, setting it back a couple of degrees was the cure.
As far as turning over slowly I would check the battery cables (it doesn't cost anything to check and only takes a couple minuets. If you end up changing them get the biggest ones you can find (the hotter the cables get the more resistance they have...bigger cables, less resistance).
On really hot days I after I've driven the truck for a while when I restart it I stil need to open the throttle about 1/4 and it will crank several revelutions but it always starts and runs great.
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Re: Dodge Warlock, trouble starting when it's hot outside.
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Check the weight springs on your distributor, one(probably not both) may have broken or came off it's peg. Had the same problem with my 340(factory 1" spacer) when it was new, did the same thing as your truck. Spacer would help too as I've seen gas boil out of the carb, E10 boils at a lower temperature.
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Re: Dodge Warlock, trouble starting when it's hot outside.
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Check the weight springs on your distributor, one(probably not both) may have broken or came off it's peg. Had the same problem with my 340(factory 1" spacer) when it was new, did the same thing as your truck. Spacer would help too as I've seen gas boil out of the carb, E10 boils at a lower temperature.
Update: I did a tune up on the Warlock and even went so far as to replace the coil. It didn't seem to help. I went ahead and adjusted the timing just slightly and that definitely helped. I'm going to go ahead and do the phelonic spacer and possibly get a heat shield for the starter.
Taking it one step at a time.
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Re: Dodge Warlock, trouble starting when it's hot outside.
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get a phenolic spacer under the carb, and try to find some "real" gas.
Any thoughts on what size spacer I should get for a 318 with a 2 bbl? I see 1/4 in., 1/2 in., all the way up to a 2 in. spacer.
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Re: Dodge Warlock, trouble starting when it's hot outside.
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get a phenolic spacer under the carb, and try to find some "real" gas.
Any thoughts on what size spacer I should get for a 318 with a 2 bbl? I see 1/4 in., 1/2 in., all the way up to a 2 in. spacer.
Way back when I was looking into spacer size stuff, the most common advice was to try one of each, and keep the one that worked the best
I ended up with a 1/2" one I found on something at the junkyard.
As for the hard starts, I've resigned to just cranking it until it starts, until I get the new engine and EFI swap done.
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