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1941 Dodge truck project
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05/27/13 09:45 PM
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This is the start of a new build thread. A 1941 Dodge Truck This thing was bought out of the HAMB classifieds in 2006 and then piled in a corner. The truck body parts and 2001 Dakota chassis came as a package deal. The wheels came off of ebay. They are 90's-2000's era Halibrands that were made for a Dakota (17x7, 18x9.5) First mock-up pic  headlight idea....37 ford lenses and rings  the front end is way too wide. the Dakota is going to get hacked to work (wheelbase is way too long too).  I got to play with Dad's latest toy to dig it out.  This thing is a total basket case....all in pieces. I have a lot of trial and error ahead of me to make this a truck again. The floor and firewall were cut out. I have a wc-54 firewall to go back in. Anybody got pictures of how the front cap attaches to the cab? Anybody have a link to some refernce dimensions for the cab? I'm sure this one moved some without floors and firewall.
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Re: 1941 Dodge truck project
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05/28/13 03:08 AM
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NICE PROJECT, maybe he sold it when he seen the front was to wide,, love the 37 ford headlite idea,,may be easier to widen the frotn fenders if you plan on using those kool wheels,,or maybe a different back space on the rim would get the tire inward,,,
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Re: 1941 Dodge truck project
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NICE PROJECT, maybe he sold it when he seen the front was to wide,, love the 37 ford headlite idea,,may be easier to widen the frotn fenders if you plan on using those kool wheels,,or maybe a different back space on the rim would get the tire inward,,,
I had already thought about widening the fenders. I'm not sure about adding 3 or 4 inches per side (what it would take to tuck these wheels)
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Re: 1941 Dodge truck project
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Hi Richard,here are some pics of a guy building a camper and look at the front fender wideners, I think they are a stock Big truck item. but you could just add 3-4" to the inside lip to widen yours...
oh and it looks like a cool project you got there...Ron.
Holy crap that thing is cool!
Are those "fender spacers" dodge items? I've never seen anything like that before. I've never seen fenders exactly like those before either.
The wide look does look good.
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Re: 1941 Dodge truck project
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Richard, something to think about on the frame. You have already noticed that the Dak frame kicks up over the axle and stays too high for a flat bed floor. I cut the Dak frame just behind the cab on my 57 and welded on the shortened, narrowed, and boxed rear section of my 57 frame. This allowed me to have the original bed and floor height.  
I didn't get a stock frame with mine.
I've been kicking around the idea that this might be a flatbed.
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Re: 1941 Dodge truck project
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The only direct attachments between the front end and the cab are 2 bolts from inside the kick panel area into the fender flange (a couple inches forward of the door hinges) and then the 2 struts from the upper cowl that go forward to near the center of the upper "nose" section. On the original frame, the upper and lower grill sections and fenders are mostly held in place to the frame with the 2 fender inner panels (the panels with the vertical louvers) and the core support. The fender inner panels bolted front and rear onto the top of the frame rails. The core support, the large u-shaped channel, had 2 bolts at the bottom center that bolted to a flange on the front edge of the main cross member. I'm currently moving my '41 from its original frame onto a '95 Dakota chassis with a '05 5.7L HEMI. A cross-member has to be fabricated for the core support, then the inner fender panels need to be adjusted to attach to something since they are no longer directly above nor parallel to the frame rails. I think I will use some sturdy 90 degree tabs attached to the Dakota frame rails to support the inner fender panels. While we have my '41 cab off without nose or fenders attached, I'll take some pictures and measurements. My truck has been in Cali and Arizona all it's life and 100% rust and damage free, so measurements should be reliable. My '41 frame will be on the market soon 
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Re: 1941 Dodge truck project
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The only direct attachments between the front end and the cab are 2 bolts from inside the kick panel area into the fender flange (a couple inches forward of the door hinges) and then the 2 struts from the upper cowl that go forward to near the center of the upper "nose" section. On the original frame, the upper and lower grill sections and fenders are mostly held in place to the frame with the 2 fender inner panels (the panels with the vertical louvers) and the core support. The fender inner panels bolted front and rear onto the top of the frame rails. The core support, the large u-shaped channel, had 2 bolts at the bottom center that bolted to a flange on the front edge of the main cross member.
I'm currently moving my '41 from its original frame onto a '95 Dakota chassis with a '05 5.7L HEMI. A cross-member has to be fabricated for the core support, then the inner fender panels need to be adjusted to attach to something since they are no longer directly above nor parallel to the frame rails. I think I will use some sturdy 90 degree tabs attached to the Dakota frame rails to support the inner fender panels.
While we have my '41 cab off without nose or fenders attached, I'll take some pictures and measurements. My truck has been in Cali and Arizona all it's life and 100% rust and damage free, so measurements should be reliable.
My '41 frame will be on the market soon
Thanks for the info. I would love to see pictures of a solid truck.
I went to pull-a-part and looked at an earlier Dakota frame, They are prettier than the 2001 frame (don't have the bolt on section at the rear). I was disappointed to find out they were only 2.5 inches or so narrower. That wouldn't be enough for me to tuck my wheels.
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Re: 1941 Dodge truck project
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[QUOTE] headlight idea....37 ford lenses and rings [/QUOTE] I thought I was being unique. Turns out I was being Studebaker. 
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Re: 1941 Dodge truck project
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06/03/13 02:12 PM
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Let's not forget Willys!
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Re: 1941 Dodge truck project
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While we have my '41 cab off without nose or fenders attached, I'll take some pictures and measurements. My truck has been in Cali and Arizona all it's life and 100% rust and damage free, so measurements should be reliable.
Cpeceo,
Have you had a chance to tear into your truck yet? I'd love to see pics of how this thing is supposed to go back together.
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Re: 1941 Dodge truck project
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This past weekend, I played with the Dodge again. I tried the Fargo big truck front cap that was in the pile of parts I got with this truck. It fits the Dakota chassis a lot better,but I will need to fill in the wheel openings to match the smaller wheels. I need to modify the radiator bracket to get it to sit a few inches lower. Also, I need to cut about 10 inches out of the frame and then lower the crap out of the truck (seven inches up front and five in the rear).  IMG_6048 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr  IMG_6055 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr  IMG_6066 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr
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Re: 1941 Dodge truck project
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09/24/13 09:43 AM
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looks good so far,,,i agree the front wheel openings do look large
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Re: 1941 Dodge truck project
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10/12/13 07:44 PM
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I gave up on trying to find a cheap stand alone efi set-up for a dodge and crossed over to the dark side. I bought a 5.3 LS motor/trans/ecm and harness/gas tank/driveshaft for $900. Chevy computers are apparently way easier to crack (people will remove the anti-theft/emissions stuff and re-flash for $75) and instructions to modify the harness are online.  IMG_6248 by Flipper_1938, on Flickr
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