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Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question #1428104 04/30/13 01:31 PM 04/30/13 01:31 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 211 Indy N Nuke463 OP enthusiast
Nuke463 OP enthusiast N Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 211 Indy	Can an Edlebrock CH4B aluminum Intake manifold be used on a 383? I was told that they are not interchangeable with use on a 440? Anyone know? Nuke

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: Nuke463] #1428105 04/30/13 01:41 PM 04/30/13 01:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada Dodgem master
Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	Way to wide.

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: Nuke463] #1428106 04/30/13 01:51 PM 04/30/13 01:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,948 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,948 U.S.S.A.	The CH4B is a 440 intake , the only way it would fit on a 383 is if the 383 had mopar performance stage 6 heads on it .

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: Nuke463] #1428107 04/30/13 02:42 PM 04/30/13 02:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	383/400 takes a DP4B.

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: 62maxwgn] #1428108 04/30/13 06:20 PM 04/30/13 06:20 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,559 Downtown Roebuck Ont Twostick Still wishing...
Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,559 Downtown Roebuck Ont	And about the only difference between it and a stock iron one is the weight. Kevin

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: Twostick] #1428109 04/30/13 07:55 PM 04/30/13 07:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	Quote: And about the only difference between it and a stock iron one is the weight. Kevin You're wrong on that one!

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: 62maxwgn] #1428110 04/30/13 08:46 PM 04/30/13 08:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Quote: Quote: And about the only difference between it and a stock iron one is the weight. Kevin You're wrong on that one! Good manifold.

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: MoparforLife] #1428111 04/30/13 09:21 PM 04/30/13 09:21 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,810 Sobieski Wi B bee1971 master
bee1971 master B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,810 Sobieski Wi	And from all the dyno tests i have seen its not any better then a Edelbrock Performer Intake , maybe a couple horsepower at best - So why would anyone spend the time and money on a used DP/CH Intake and not knowing what your getting as far as its been milled or heli-coils etc. when you can get the Performer or Performer RPM brand new ??? 1971 Dodge Charger Superbee 2011 Ram Sport 1500 Quad Cab Deep Water Blue Loaded Siberian Huskies

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: bee1971] #1428112 04/30/13 10:35 PM 04/30/13 10:35 PM
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beatgoeson mopar B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 637 Maryland USA	Ch4B will fit under a stock hood with a factory air cleaner , an RPM won't . thats one big reason for me.

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: beatgoeson] #1428113 04/30/13 11:05 PM 04/30/13 11:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	To the OP: NO, you cannot use it on a 383 or 400. It is too wide. If you had a 413, 426 wedge or 440, it would and it would be better than a stock intake, regardless of others' opinions. However, for you, the DP4B is about equivalent. Or a Performer. Actually, there was an exhaustive 383 intake manifold test with more than 10 intakes, find it and go. R.

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: Nuke463] #1428114 05/01/13 02:38 AM 05/01/13 02:38 AM
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lemondana member L Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 68 southeast NE	Could be used on a RB 383 if you had one, not too many of the 383 RB's around though.

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: bee1971] #1428115 05/01/13 03:32 AM 05/01/13 03:32 AM
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firefighter3931 top fuel F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,646 Ontario,Canada	Quote: And from all the dyno tests i have seen its not any better then a Edelbrock Performer Intake , maybe a couple horsepower at best - So why would anyone spend the time and money on a used DP/CH Intake and not knowing what your getting as far as its been milled or heli-coils etc. when you can get the Performer or Performer RPM brand new ??? That would be incorrect ; the "performer" is basicly a stock replacement manifold that performs at the same level as a stocker. The RPM is better but it can create hood clearance issues with some cars...requiring drop base air cleaners & modified throttle/kickdown linkage. The CH4B on the other hand performs like an RPM but doesn't have all the installation headaches. Here's a good dyno shootout to look at : http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techa...st/viewall.html Ron

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: firefighter3931] #1428116 05/01/13 03:36 AM 05/01/13 03:36 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation dOc ! The village idiot's idiot
dOc ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation	.... if all these dyno tests are right .... WHY didn't Eddy just copy the old design with some new cosmetic diffs and sell it that way?

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: firefighter3931] #1428117 05/01/13 05:24 AM 05/01/13 05:24 AM
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bee1971 master B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,810 Sobieski Wi	Quote: Quote: And from all the dyno tests i have seen its not any better then a Edelbrock Performer Intake , maybe a couple horsepower at best - So why would anyone spend the time and money on a used DP/CH Intake and not knowing what your getting as far as its been milled or heli-coils etc. when you can get the Performer or Performer RPM brand new ??? That would be incorrect ; the "performer" is basicly a stock replacement manifold that performs at the same level as a stocker. The RPM is better but it can create hood clearance issues with some cars...requiring drop base air cleaners & modified throttle/kickdown linkage. The CH4B on the other hand performs like an RPM but doesn't have all the installation headaches. Here's a good dyno shootout to look at : http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techa...st/viewall.html Ron First of all where talking about the 383 here , not the 440 in that test - Also the Performer WASNT in that test you posted - Also in that test the Performer Rpm makes a positive torque difference down low compared Again 383 , and the Performer wasn't in that test NEXT 1971 Dodge Charger Superbee 2011 Ram Sport 1500 Quad Cab Deep Water Blue Loaded Siberian Huskies

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: dOc !] #1428118 05/01/13 05:44 AM 05/01/13 05:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,936 Holly/MI D Dean_Kuzluzski master
Dean_Kuzluzski master D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,936 Holly/MI	Quote: .... if all these dyno tests are right .... WHY didn't Eddy just copy the old design with some new cosmetic diffs and sell it that way? If you study the torque & HP #'s the Perf. RPM is better overall than the CH4B. With a higher peak HP at a lower rpm. And to answer your question...........the taller newer design is aestetically better looking for marketing too. The CH4B is a great intake for a stealth underhood upgrade over the heavy cast iron. I'd use one. R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: bee1971] #1428119 05/01/13 05:53 AM 05/01/13 05:53 AM
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bee1971 master B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,810 Sobieski Wi	The Hot Rod Test of the 383 Intakes - The DP4 versus the Performer (Stock Factory Intake Was Not In That Test) From what I remember there was like 1 ft lb difference between the two and something like 4-5 hp WOW !!! And personally I have seen dyno numbers on both intakes and they where within a few hp either way on a mildly built 383 - Apples to Apples HOT ROD You'll also see that there's a group of single-planes that are virtually identical (the M1, Street Dominator, and TM6) and some dual-planes that also tested very closely (the Action Plus, DP4B, and Performer). The numbers are so close that you would never know the difference in a car. The Performer RPM will more clearly outrun the other dual-planes and the differences among the single-planes will become more distinct. 1971 Dodge Charger Superbee 2011 Ram Sport 1500 Quad Cab Deep Water Blue Loaded Siberian Huskies

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: bee1971] #1428120 05/01/13 05:59 AM 05/01/13 05:59 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,936 Holly/MI D Dean_Kuzluzski master
Dean_Kuzluzski master D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,936 Holly/MI	Quote: The Hot Rod Test of the 383 Intakes - The DP4 versus the Performer (Stock Factory Intake Was Not In That Test) From what I remember there was like 1 ft lb difference between the two and something like 4-5 hp WOW !!! And personally I have seen dyno numbers on both intakes and they where within a few hp either way on a mildly built 383 - Apples to Apples "mildly built 383" being the key element here. Now add a lot more cam compression, carb, better exhaust and see which prevails. I have a SB Perf. and an old LD4B, flip them over and look at the cast runners and huge difference. The Perf. looks like it would be lucky to hit 5k rpm. Which was OK back in the day when it was designed for its intended market. R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #1428121 05/01/13 06:41 AM 05/01/13 06:41 AM
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bee1971 master B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,810 Sobieski Wi	Thread from 2007 on this whole 383 Intake https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1 1971 Dodge Charger Superbee 2011 Ram Sport 1500 Quad Cab Deep Water Blue Loaded Siberian Huskies

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #1428122 05/01/13 06:50 AM 05/01/13 06:50 AM
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bee1971 master B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,810 Sobieski Wi	Quote: Quote: The Hot Rod Test of the 383 Intakes - The DP4 versus the Performer (Stock Factory Intake Was Not In That Test) From what I remember there was like 1 ft lb difference between the two and something like 4-5 hp WOW !!! And personally I have seen dyno numbers on both intakes and they where within a few hp either way on a mildly built 383 - Apples to Apples "mildly built 383" being the key element here. Now add a lot more cam compression, carb, better exhaust and see which prevails. I have a SB Perf. and an old LD4B, flip them over and look at the cast runners and huge difference. The Perf. looks like it would be lucky to hit 5k rpm. Which was OK back in the day when it was designed for its intended market. Maybe we need to bee more specific on the BUILD of the motor when talking intakes But in all fairness , if I am building a Serious 383 or 440 with all the goodies , aluminum heads blah blah blah etc. are you seriously going to go out of your way to find a DP4 Intake to stick on top of it , really 1971 Dodge Charger Superbee 2011 Ram Sport 1500 Quad Cab Deep Water Blue Loaded Siberian Huskies

Re: Edlebrock CH4B Intake manifold question [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #1428123 05/01/13 06:56 AM 05/01/13 06:56 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation dOc ! The village idiot's idiot
dOc ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation	Quote: Quote: .... if all these dyno tests are right .... WHY didn't Eddy just copy the old design with some new cosmetic diffs and sell it that way? If you study the torque & HP #'s the Perf. RPM is better overall than the CH4B. With a higher peak HP at a lower rpm. And to answer your question...........the taller newer design is aestetically better looking for marketing too. The CH4B is a great intake for a stealth underhood upgrade over the heavy cast iron. I'd use one. DeanO ..... what I meant to compare it to was the regular Performer intake .... if I was Eddy ... I would have copied the base CH4B .... and then tweated it .... BUT they didn't. Eddy does some things "funny" anyways .... a couple of years ago I asked them for some info on both the SP2P and the Streetmaster and they said they knew ZIP about it. INTERESTING ....even though I made it plain that I was buildiing a low rpm torque motor with MPG in-mind with a spreadbore carb ...

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