Re: more xr1 problems
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04/29/13 03:41 PM
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I put up some of my problems on the 4 post for the top 4 bolt 48 degree 50mm cam 9.58 deck 4.155 bore is the way mine was sold to me
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
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Re: more xr1 problems
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04/29/13 04:27 PM
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With all this bashing and negativety about a product I'd thought I would post a possitive report. A customer in Texas has an XR1 block, W-7 heads by Visner with turbocahrging. 1300 at the rear wheels. The math works out to something like 1500+ at the crank. Pretty good amount of power handled by a block everyone seems to like to throw under the bus. The point being these are good blocks.
. This is the block with the head studs in the wrong location and had to be moved. Blocked leaked water into 3 cylinders all weekend long. Engine is apart now to try and repair the problem. Not sure who's fault it is but no for a fact it was the block.
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Re: more xr1 problems
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04/29/13 04:49 PM
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i've got a xr2 block from kent,had lotts problims but kent has taken care of each & every one of them,kents a stand up guy, i got a sugestion to all you bellyackres you try desiging,haveing one cast & find someone to macheine it & see if you can get it done for the amount hes asking for his,or better yet why dont you go get a junk-a-lay & just see what you'll get,i think read somewhere henery ford went bankrupt the 1st time he tryed to stasrdt ford motor co.,theres not one of you guys thats had to do more or been as long as i have trying to get my xr2 going,but you dont see me bitching, becaus if it wasn;t for kent i'd hav to quite raceing because i =WILL not race eather brand x;s, mopar or no-par
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Re: more xr1 problems
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04/29/13 05:32 PM
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i've got a xr2 block from kent,had lotts problims but kent has taken care of each & every one of them,kents a stand up guy, i got a sugestion to all you bellyackres you try desiging,haveing one cast & find someone to macheine it & see if you can get it done for the amount hes asking for his,or better yet why dont you go get a junk-a-lay & just see what you'll get,i think read somewhere henery ford went bankrupt the 1st time he tryed to stasrdt ford motor co.,theres not one of you guys thats had to do more or been as long as i have trying to get my xr2 going,but you dont see me bitching, becaus if it wasn;t for kent i'd hav to quite raceing because i =WILL not race eather brand x;s, mopar or no-par
So because he half accomplished a difficult task it's okay to pass the buck to the consumer? I don't follow and am no longer considering an xr for my build. At 23 I'm not rich so good money on bad parts isn't my motto.
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Re: more xr1 problems
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04/29/13 05:52 PM
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i've got a xr2 block from kent,had lotts problims but kent has taken care of each & every one of them,kents a stand up guy, i got a sugestion to all you bellyackres you try desiging,haveing one cast & find someone to macheine it & see if you can get it done for the amount hes asking for his,or better yet why dont you go get a junk-a-lay & just see what you'll get,i think read somewhere henery ford went bankrupt the 1st time he tryed to stasrdt ford motor co.,theres not one of you guys thats had to do more or been as long as i have trying to get my xr2 going,but you dont see me bitching, becaus if it wasn;t for kent i'd hav to quite raceing because i =WILL not race eather brand x;s, mopar or no-par
So because he half accomplished a difficult task it's okay to pass the buck to the consumer? I don't follow and am no longer considering an xr for my build. At 23 I'm not rich so good money on bad parts isn't my motto.
I'm sure bringing a block like this to market is difficult and expensive. I'm sure anyone that bought one was expecting to do some minor machine work to it but having to redo major machining probably wasn't in anyones mind when they were sold a block with requiring only final bore and hone.
Most of us guys don't have unlimited funds to drop on an expensive part and then spend nearly as much in machine work to make it right. I applaud Kent for doing it but it seems in my opinion, and only my opinion that the execution could have been a bit better. I'm not slamming him in anyway and I don't own one of his blocks but I did consider it. If he ever gets them straightened out I may consider one in the future but quite frankly for that kind of coin a gen3 hemi seems like a better deal.
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Re: more xr1 problems
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04/29/13 06:01 PM
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i've got a xr2 block from kent,had lotts problims but kent has taken care of each & every one of them,kents a stand up guy, i got a sugestion to all you bellyackres you try desiging,haveing one cast & find someone to macheine it & see if you can get it done for the amount hes asking for his,or better yet why dont you go get a junk-a-lay & just see what you'll get,i think read somewhere henery ford went bankrupt the 1st time he tryed to stasrdt ford motor co.,theres not one of you guys thats had to do more or been as long as i have trying to get my xr2 going,but you dont see me bitching, becaus if it wasn;t for kent i'd hav to quite raceing because i =WILL not race eather brand x;s, mopar or no-par
MR JG309 this is a joke 2 1/2 years and your motor don't run yet what a great guy kent is if he is so good why isn't your motor running... o buy the way I did not see the word mopar or dodge on my block.. and a set of w8 wont bolt up to it because the bolt holes are in the wrong spot maybe I should try some brand x heads it is your duty as a mopar guy to put the word out and save some others from all this BS
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Re: more xr1 problems
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04/29/13 07:32 PM
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This sucks! I've been window shopping one for a while. Guess I better look some where else. If there was more demand someone might step up but I dont see that happening.
With the availability and the HP numbers coming out of the Gen 3 I don't see this happening either. Why waste time and money on an antiquated engine?
Antiquated???
Let's see a 420ci Gen 3 ring up 1000+ N/A. An "antiquated" carbed W8 will get there all day and a SERIOUS 2x4 drysump deal will all the bells.......forget it. A Gen 3 would need an adder to make it appear to be a race.
What should be being produced is a good block in multiple deck heights and new raw 8s so CFE can carve away.
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Re: more xr1 problems
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04/29/13 07:47 PM
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well mr whitedart if iys any of your bussness i broke my ankle 21/2 years ago,then got staff & lost it complete, so i've been in & out hospital all the time,so i do what i can do when i can do it thats why my xr2 is not done,my dad always said you could led a horse to water but you could never get it to drink till he was ready, & all you guys wanting gen 3 had better read some of the back post on these engins & the rod problim,thats it i;m done, this is why ryan @ shady dell stoped posting, you got a complant just go stick up their ass & quit bittching about it or go to school & learn how to be a engine builder, not just a engine assyimbler
keep up the good work im sure kent will keep taking care of you.. and another 2 1/2 years you still wont have that xr2 thing running.
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
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Re: more xr1 problems
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04/29/13 07:58 PM
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hey everyone. my (block porn)post turned out to be a dud. i'm not here bashing as mentioned earlier. just making everyone aware. my block turned out to have over machined lifter bore's. this surfaced after fireing it up & didn't have oil to 5,6,7,&8 rockers. my receipt said bore's were sized & honed. didn't really check, my stupidity. pulled & stripped block bare. told kent i'm done with his block & want a full refund. he agreed. here are some other issue's i had, again, just thing's that should not have to be corrected by me. thrust .004 too wide on the block. bolt holes don't line up the heads. oil pump drive casting dosen't fit in the #5 bearing cap. bottom 2 holes for the timing cover need drilled deeper & retapped(only 4 threads). don't know if this would be a problem, my block started out 9.600 & was decked to 9.200(for the setup i'm currently running.) that's 400 thou cut off the deck. that's alot. i had to drill & retap all the head studs cos there was only 1/2 " of thread left in the deck. seems like alot of crap to deal with for the money. i give up. 4 1/2 months of dickin around. i have a r3 block on the way. all will be good. i'm not bsahing, cryin(like some may think), just stating facts. kent is a great guy. i give him credit for steppin up to the plate. his block is a stout peice. too bad he dropped the ball on machining part of the deal. thanks for ur time. stay safe, seeya.
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Re: more xr1 problems
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04/29/13 08:18 PM
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well mr whitedat,it may note be together in anouther 21/2 years, but i do have one & its all mine,just one good piece,right now i'm more concerned with getting my leg healed so i can finish my engine,dont realy need it my r3-w9 motor is ok for now, & it puts 728 to the ground, so it may be all i need anyway,not many people out there with a 366 with that kind hp, but to each his own, i've got what i want thats all that matters anyway
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Re: more xr1 problems
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04/29/13 08:55 PM
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well mr whitedat,it may note be together in anouther 21/2 years, but i do have one & its all mine,just one good piece,right now i'm more concerned with getting my leg healed so i can finish my engine,dont realy need it my r3-w9 motor is ok for now, & it puts 728 to the ground, so it may be all i need anyway,not many people out there with a 366 with that kind hp, but to each his own, i've got what i want thats all that matters anyway
I feel bad for your leg and I hope you get your healing soon.. and your r3 w9 366 making all that hp is cool.. but that has nothing to do with these blocks that kent has sold as been one thing and they turn out to be something eles so he is a liar and a cheat in my book
Last edited by whitedart; 04/29/13 08:58 PM.
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
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