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Re: more xr1 problems [Re: Dave W] #1427055
05/01/13 01:50 PM
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The sb2.2 actually fits on a chebby stock block.If they(mopar) got the bugs out of the blocks or even made one that could go 4" stroke,I would guarantee you'd see even tons of mustangs w a p7's motors in em.One of the best sb2 builders in the country said that p7 could do the same if not more then a sb2 head.

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: fishy340] #1427056
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In the past few weeks I contacted LSM about making a billet Alum block. They will make it to spec and the cost is the same or less than what I have in the block I have now and comes ready to use. Here is the draw back. You have to order 10 blocks on your first order and my pockets are not that deep. If 9 other guys are willing to step up then lets place an order.

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: Hitman340] #1427057
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What about the A8 block?

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: joshking440] #1427058
05/01/13 06:19 PM
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What about the A8 block?


Yes this would be your best bet. I know they are still out there. I got one still in the crate. I keep it just in case of an emergency. Also have a spare Aluminum R4 sitting in the floor!


2010 Toxic Orange Challenger built by B and B Racecars! All aluminum R4/P5 engine, Proformance TH400 (3 speed) tranny, full Reid case, nodular 9" rearend, full Dragpak suspension, Protorque custom converter, BS3, PTE 85mm turbo, fire core wires, carbon doors, carbon front clip, and a whole lot more!
Re: more xr1 problems [Re: Hitman340] #1427059
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In the past few weeks I contacted LSM about making a billet Alum block. They will make it to spec and the cost is the same or less than what I have in the block I have now and comes ready to use. Here is the draw back. You have to order 10 blocks on your first order and my pockets are not that deep. If 9 other guys are willing to step up then lets place an order.




If you want an aluminum block, Ernie Elliott makes those. Deck height starts at 9.320" IIRC.

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: W8n2DustU] #1427060
05/01/13 06:33 PM
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What about the A8 block?


Yes this would be your best bet. I know they are still out there. I got one still in the crate. I keep it just in case of an emergency. Also have a spare Aluminum R4 sitting in the floor!




Would that have came from Mark by chance?

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: Hitman340] #1427061
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Yes I ended up with both of them. The 9.6" deck was used for my X275 P5 turbo build! And it's almost completed.


2010 Toxic Orange Challenger built by B and B Racecars! All aluminum R4/P5 engine, Proformance TH400 (3 speed) tranny, full Reid case, nodular 9" rearend, full Dragpak suspension, Protorque custom converter, BS3, PTE 85mm turbo, fire core wires, carbon doors, carbon front clip, and a whole lot more!
Re: more xr1 problems [Re: W8n2DustU] #1427062
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I understand some of you have issues with these blocks. But did we forget that R3 blocks have had several issues as well. Im happy to see someone making an effort to make something for the small block mopar community. Were lucky that some one is even making them with such a limited market.

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: FIREGUY12] #1427063
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I understand some of you have issues with these blocks. But did we forget that R3 blocks have had several issues as well. Im happy to see someone making an effort to make something for the small block mopar community. Were lucky that some one is even making them with such a limited market.




I agree,if we can just get a few more HUGE dud's.That should improve an already dying mopar base.No offense but what did you actually read in the last 2 pages? Lol

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Re: more xr1 problems [Re: LSP] #1427064
05/01/13 10:58 PM
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In the past few weeks I contacted LSM about making a billet Alum block. They will make it to spec and the cost is the same or less than what I have in the block I have now and comes ready to use. Here is the draw back. You have to order 10 blocks on your first order and my pockets are not that deep. If 9 other guys are willing to step up then lets place an order. [/quo
If you want an aluminum block, Ernie Elliott makes those. Deck height starts at 9.320" IIRC.




I may be wrong but I think the Elliot block is a
cast block. The LSM block starts out as a block of aluminum and is fully cut to spec on a CNC. You
have the benefits of making the same power as a cast iron block but without the weight. Also your not limited to a short deck height. Just something to think about.

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: fishy340] #1427065
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I understand some of you have issues with these blocks. But did we forget that R3 blocks have had several issues as well. Im happy to see someone making an effort to make something for the small block mopar community. Were lucky that some one is even making them with such a limited market.




I agree,if we can just get a few more HUGE dud's.That should improve an already dying mopar base.No offense but what did you actually read in the last 2 pages? Lol




....but it sounds soooo easy! (quote from the block description)

"This block is not assembly ready. It will require finish bore & hone, possible line hone and final deck height cut, and possibly oil holes to the cam bearings depending on cam bearing type chosen. "

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: J_BODY] #1427066
05/03/13 09:03 PM
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Ok... the drift I got so far is that this block will
take a W series head... is it a 59* or 48* block
and whats the standard deck height... is it a 4 bolt
main, whats the cam tunnel bearing size... sorry
to ask all the questions with you having your problems
with it





....a little insight Mr. P.

http://www.hughesengines.com/TechArticles/1ritterracingsmallblocks.php


this site has changed from when I bout my block u can count on 1000 to 2000$ more to fix all the machine work. and don't for get I got one block that could not be fix. I had to pay to ship it to kent because he did not have any money.he lied again and said he would send me a new block right away .it took me calling him every week for 5 months be for I got the new block.


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Re: more xr1 problems [Re: fishy340] #1427067
05/04/13 10:29 AM
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The issue is that the block is NOT dedicated to 1 type wedge head or p style.This interchangeable heads and oiling system is quit a task.,.maybe to much.I bet a million bucks if it was dedicated to just P series head or a WEDGE type there would be very little wrong w it.

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: fishy340] #1427068
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The issue is that the block is NOT dedicated to 1 type wedge head or p style.This interchangeable heads and oiling system is quit a task.,.maybe to much.I bet a million bucks if it was dedicated to just P series head or a WEDGE type there would be very little wrong w it.


I would agree with you to a point but the problems that most of use are having is the basic machine work. like thrust, head bolt holes, lifter size and location.. and some other small stuff


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Re: more xr1 problems [Re: WHITEDART] #1427069
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i guss i should just keep quite because my block is a xr2 & not a xr1,but i do know my machinest told me that almosy all brand-x blocks & dart included have most of the same problims my ritter block had,when ryan put my lifter bushings in he would not start untill i sent him my cam,lifters, cam bearings, he said allmost every engines lifter bores are off, so you need a jig to aleign them corectly,not just kents,only real problim i had was with the maching work that was done before i got mine,kent madeit all good, & i ask ryan if it was fixed right & he said everything was ok,my xr2 block is for the p7 heads only,the wedge heads & cam will not fit, iwas toold when i bought my xr2 that it would have to be bored,alined honed,bussings installed if i wanted keyway lifters, as well as the deck cut to my spects, so i think i got what i payed for,nothing special

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: jg309] #1427070
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everything you mentioned gets done on any new aftermarket block.MOPAR cast arent perfect..but its minor stuff and any good builder would do before an assembly anyway ie check clearences etc etc.

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: fishy340] #1427071
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why doesn't someone who goes through the trouble to design and build a block like this make sure the machine work is correct before selling them?wouldn't it be nice to have someone you can trust?

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: Quicktree] #1427072
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I for 1 would like to personally thank Kent Ritter for the endeavor he has intered. i think its kinda ironic that any time someone needs some small blocks parts usually you end up getting them from him. Yes the blocks have some issues. I personally have an XR2 block. When i bought it i was told that i would need to size the mains and the cam tunnel. I chose the keyway lifter route so i had that machine work also. I also had to cross drill the oil passage to the lifter bores, just like a 48 degree R blocks that nobody has ever had a problem with. Iam sorry for those that have had so much trouble, and I hope he makes it right with you. Not saying Kent is perfect but he seems too be the only person to try and help the small block community out. We could start a list of all the R block problems, indy head problems, jesel belt drive problems and find out how much assistance those companies have helped you and then we could just all go big block then everything would be easy. Good luck to all involved I just wouldn't hate on kent too much because he may your only choice for parts in the future.

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: onyxba] #1427073
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well said bryon,john

Re: more xr1 problems [Re: onyxba] #1427074
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the hole reason for this post was to make people aware of all the problems with this block. did you guys notice. that these blocks have been available for 3 years. why has not one person came out and told everybody how well there block works and how much power it made. where are they [[[ please no he said she said ]]]


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