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Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: Slant6pak] #1424602
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I owned a 77 W200 with factory 440, NP203 and optional D60 frontend. So yes. I quickly pulled off the hub drive plates and installed freewheeling hubs though along with a part time kit for the NP203.

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Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1424603
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Just find a D60 front from the 70s. I have 2

Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1424604
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I can't find anything locally...

Which is part of the problem. Seems everytime I see axles for sale they are up in the rust belt.

I have yet to find a junkyard in Houston that has any old Dodge trucks left. Its been over 2 years since I've seen a 72-80 in a yard.


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Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: Slant6pak] #1424605
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You need to think outside the box...see my post above about the Chevrolet/GMC axles. My friend Bill was not a great fabricator, but he could bolt together parts and if I recall corectly the Chev/GMC driveline swap was nearly a bolt-in deal...the truck won't know what it is using for axles


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Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: Slant6pak] #1424606
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Quote:

I can't find anything locally...

Which is part of the problem. Seems everytime I see axles for sale they are up in the rust belt.




That's funny cuz' I can't find any rust free body parts locally. The ones I see online are in TEXAS!

Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: redraptor] #1424607
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Nah none of that down here.

At least none that I can find in yards. 72-80 trucks down here are rusted out too, just not as bad.

My RC is swiss cheese below the bodyside molding. Probably could find a less rusty truck... but the patch panels are available and this truck has sentimental value to me.


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Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: Slant6pak] #1424608
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Chevy axles are not bolt in....the spring pad width on the dana 60 front is at least an inch different. The two times I put 14 bolts in the rear of my Dodges, I had to cut the spring perches off and re-weld them. That is easy but the front end is not an easy deal. The Dodge springs are wider then the pads on a Chevy, and the passenger side is cast into the center section, so its not a cut/weld deal. Have cash in hand and be patient. Watch 1stgen.org classifieds, Pirate4x4 classifieds, and other cites like that for dana 60 fronts from Dodges.

Its not impossible, I just don't want the original poster to buy axles from a Chevy and they will swap in easily.

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Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: MMiller] #1424609
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You can find them cheap. I have 3 fronts. Paid $500 for from and rear $300 for another and $450 for the other. Alt of guys want $600+ for just the front. 70s D44hd/D60 from a 3/4 I wouldn't pay more than $300 for the pr unless Freshly gone through

Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1424610
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use a dana 60 front open knuckle,with good spicer u-joints,and a gm 14 bolt rear.weld the snot out of the spiders to form a "Lincoln lock" and you will have a set of axles that will take a while to break...also use a 205 transfer. I ran a stout big block,and new TSL 44" swampers,and added hydro steering,and a ARB airlocker in the front..
note don't waste you time on any junk d44 fronts,OR any d60 rears. they snap like twigs! the 60 rears have very small axle shafts,and are not like our car units.if your not breaking these,you don't have any power..at all,lol.

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Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: imfixinmopars426] #1424611
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Double check your brakes, IIRC the D44 and D44HD both use the same caliper, and pad.


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Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: imfixinmopars426] #1424612
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the 60 rears have very small axle shafts,and are not like our car units.if your not breaking these,you don't have any power..at all,lol.





I ran 35 spline on my dana 60 with no issues. Ran 44 cut boggers or 14 paddle bigger diggers on 36 inch casings at about 1200 HP.

Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: MMiller] #1424613
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Chevy axles are not bolt in....the spring pad width on the dana 60 front is at least an inch different. The two times I put 14 bolts in the rear of my Dodges, I had to cut the spring perches off and re-weld them. That is easy but the front end is not an easy deal. The Dodge springs are wider then the pads on a Chevy, and the passenger side is cast into the center section, so its not a cut/weld deal. Have cash in hand and be patient. Watch 1stgen.org classifieds, Pirate4x4 classifieds, and other cites like that for dana 60 fronts from Dodges.

Its not impossible, I just don't want the original poster to buy axles from a Chevy and they will swap in easily.

Michael






A chevy front end does bolt into a dodge. There is a bit of width difference, but it is close enough, especially with lift springs that alot of people just bolt them in and it works just fine.

Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: viperblue72] #1424614
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Can somebody post a pic of the 75-79 Dodge D60 full time front axle?

I know these have drive flanges and are bolt in but I have no idea what this setup actually looks like....

Will the assembly have an part/casting numbers to identify it?

Dimensions?

I'm trying to get in contact with a local guy that is supposed to have a pile of Dana 60 fronts... I want to make darn sure I'm getting what I want before paying his price.


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Re: Axle upgrades for 78' 440 Ramcharger [Re: Slant6pak] #1424615
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I can get pics tonight or tomorrow morning. Got 2 sitting at the house. ones a DRW(duel rear wheel aka duelly) and other is SRW(single rear wheel) I have SRW hubs st swap the drw over. Has 4.88gears and will be in a 79 Clubcab Shortbox stepside with 6"suspension lift and 37" military tires and 440/4spd

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