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E-Body leg room, or lack of...
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Got the Cuda to the point for the first time where I could actually sit in it with seats, steering wheel and the whole works  Well so my surprise these things really were made for really short people!!! I am 6'3" and I have to sit spread legs in their and try to get the the clutch is a real pain. I can't believe they were designed that pourly, I can bearlly get my leg between the seat and steering where. Worse the getting in the 69 Vette, but that is comfy once you get in. Any way what are my options. I know the Tuff wheel is a little smaller, but I don't know if that is going to be enough. And it looks like they never came with tilt.
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Six way seat slightly tilted back...
Or I've known of guys to knock the studs out of the seat track & relocate them to shift the seat rearward... This requires some minor fab work...
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Wondering how exactly the 6 way helps? All it does is raise and lower the front and back of the seat correct? I don't see where either would help unless it drops the seat down in the front further, but I don't think that is possible.
I put a 6-way in my 73 Challenger, and it adds a lot of legroom. I'm 5'10 with short legs and with the standard seat tracks, I had my seat all the way back. With the 6-way addition, I have the seat about halfway forward. Also, by adjusting the front of the seat up, and the back down, you will gain headroom. I also have a Tuff wheel.
I've had some of my large size Mopar friends sit on the 6-way, and they are amazed at the additional head and leg room.
Find someone with a 6-way and ask to try it. You will be pleasantly surprised...
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Wondering how exactly the 6 way helps? All it does is raise and lower the front and back of the seat correct? I don't see where either would help unless it drops the seat down in the front further, but I don't think that is possible.
I put a 6-way in my 73 Challenger, and it adds a lot of legroom. I'm 5'10 with short legs and with the standard seat tracks, I had my seat all the way back. With the 6-way addition, I have the seat about halfway forward. Also, by adjusting the front of the seat up, and the back down, you will gain headroom. I also have a Tuff wheel.
I've had some of my large size Mopar friends sit on the 6-way, and they are amazed at the additional head and leg room.
Find someone with a 6-way and ask to try it. You will be pleasantly surprised...
I am going to have to look for one. I have looked a little bit and they seem really spendy!!!
Also I noticed mension on one place that the braces under the floor might be diffrent for the 6 way, I can't imagine they used a different floor for them.
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Wondering how exactly the 6 way helps? All it does is raise and lower the front and back of the seat correct? I don't see where either would help unless it drops the seat down in the front further, but I don't think that is possible.
I put a 6-way in my 73 Challenger, and it adds a lot of legroom. I'm 5'10 with short legs and with the standard seat tracks, I had my seat all the way back. With the 6-way addition, I have the seat about halfway forward. Also, by adjusting the front of the seat up, and the back down, you will gain headroom. I also have a Tuff wheel.
I've had some of my large size Mopar friends sit on the 6-way, and they are amazed at the additional head and leg room.
Find someone with a 6-way and ask to try it. You will be pleasantly surprised...
I am going to have to look for one. I have looked a little bit and they seem really spendy!!!
Also I noticed mension on one place that the braces under the floor might be diffrent for the 6 way, I can't imagine they used a different floor for them.
Yes they are spendy... 
They are being re-popped. Some of the originals get worn, like mine is. Sometimes when I'm driving, it likes to "self-adjust" backwards a notch, on its own...  The new re-pop probably wouldn't do that.
As for the underfloor braces, the regular seat tracks don't have any. Just the 6-way has the braces...
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Wondering how exactly the 6 way helps? All it does is raise and lower the front and back of the seat correct? I don't see where either would help unless it drops the seat down in the front further, but I don't think that is possible.
I put a 6-way in my 73 Challenger, and it adds a lot of legroom. I'm 5'10 with short legs and with the standard seat tracks, I had my seat all the way back. With the 6-way addition, I have the seat about halfway forward. Also, by adjusting the front of the seat up, and the back down, you will gain headroom. I also have a Tuff wheel.
I've had some of my large size Mopar friends sit on the 6-way, and they are amazed at the additional head and leg room.
Find someone with a 6-way and ask to try it. You will be pleasantly surprised...
I am going to have to look for one. I have looked a little bit and they seem really spendy!!!
Also I noticed mension on one place that the braces under the floor might be diffrent for the 6 way, I can't imagine they used a different floor for them.
Yes they are spendy...
They are being re-popped. Some of the originals get worn, like mine is. Sometimes when I'm driving, it likes to "self-adjust" backwards a notch, on its own... The new re-pop probably wouldn't do that.
As for the underfloor braces, the regular seat tracks don't have any. Just the 6-way has the braces...
Is their any problem with not using the under floor brace? The car is done and painted on the underside so I am not about to change it. I am guessing they were spot welded to the under side of the floor.
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Wondering how exactly the 6 way helps? All it does is raise and lower the front and back of the seat correct? I don't see where either would help unless it drops the seat down in the front further, but I don't think that is possible.
I put a 6-way in my 73 Challenger, and it adds a lot of legroom. I'm 5'10 with short legs and with the standard seat tracks, I had my seat all the way back. With the 6-way addition, I have the seat about halfway forward. Also, by adjusting the front of the seat up, and the back down, you will gain headroom. I also have a Tuff wheel.
I've had some of my large size Mopar friends sit on the 6-way, and they are amazed at the additional head and leg room.
Find someone with a 6-way and ask to try it. You will be pleasantly surprised...
I am going to have to look for one. I have looked a little bit and they seem really spendy!!!
Also I noticed mension on one place that the braces under the floor might be diffrent for the 6 way, I can't imagine they used a different floor for them.
Yes they are spendy...
They are being re-popped. Some of the originals get worn, like mine is. Sometimes when I'm driving, it likes to "self-adjust" backwards a notch, on its own... The new re-pop probably wouldn't do that.
As for the underfloor braces, the regular seat tracks don't have any. Just the 6-way has the braces...
Is their any problem with not using the under floor brace? The car is done and painted on the underside so I am not about to change it. I am guessing they were spot welded to the under side of the floor.
Could be a big problem if you don't use them. The 6-way is heavy, and you could rip thru the floor with the stud mounts on the 6-way. The braces are re-popped. Either B,E A or RestoRick has them, I forget which.
They do not weld to the floor. Just paint them to match the underside, hold them in place as you drop the 6-way studs through, put the washers and nuts on, tighten them, and enjoy...
Disclaimer: Maybe they were welded from the factory, But I didn't weld mine. I just installed them as I described.
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What about the height of the 6-way set-up. I have been searching some and it looks like it adds some height to the seat, reducing head room. This would make sence I guess as their must need some height for all the mechanics under their. I guess if all I am gaining is that the 6-way will slide back further (do they) I might as well try to mod my standard brackets to go back further...... 
Yes they do add some height, but by adjusting the rear of the seat downward, you you not only get a liitle bit of recline, but regain the height you lost with the higher 6-way unit. My tall Mopar friends have plenty of headroom that way.
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I'm 6'5" 250ish and I never really had a problem in them. Although I have driven stealths and other smaller cars and got used to it. Although I am using after market buckets in my 70, so I'll move them back for more leg room.
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6'4" here, my legs are a 34" inseam though, so I'm mostly torso.
I never noticed a lack of leg room in mine. I was glad that I fit so well in the E-body. I was afraid sitting in it would be like sitting in a late model corvette, viper or mustang...I do NOT fit in any of those cars as they were delivered from the factory!
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Wondering how exactly the 6 way helps? All it does is raise and lower the front and back of the seat correct? I don't see where either would help unless it drops the seat down in the front further, but I don't think that is possible.
I put a 6-way in my 73 Challenger, and it adds a lot of legroom. I'm 5'10 with short legs and with the standard seat tracks, I had my seat all the way back. With the 6-way addition, I have the seat about halfway forward. Also, by adjusting the front of the seat up, and the back down, you will gain headroom. I also have a Tuff wheel.
I've had some of my large size Mopar friends sit on the 6-way, and they are amazed at the additional head and leg room.
Find someone with a 6-way and ask to try it. You will be pleasantly surprised...
I am going to have to look for one. I have looked a little bit and they seem really spendy!!!
Also I noticed mension on one place that the braces under the floor might be diffrent for the 6 way, I can't imagine they used a different floor for them.
Yes they are spendy...
They are being re-popped. Some of the originals get worn, like mine is. Sometimes when I'm driving, it likes to "self-adjust" backwards a notch, on its own... The new re-pop probably wouldn't do that.
As for the underfloor braces, the regular seat tracks don't have any. Just the 6-way has the braces...
Is their any problem with not using the under floor brace? The car is done and painted on the underside so I am not about to change it. I am guessing they were spot welded to the under side of the floor.
Could be a big problem if you don't use them. The 6-way is heavy, and you could rip thru the floor with the stud mounts on the 6-way. The braces are re-popped. Either B,E A or RestoRick has them, I forget which.
They do not weld to the floor. Just paint them to match the underside, hold them in place as you drop the 6-way studs through, put the washers and nuts on, tighten them, and enjoy...
Disclaimer: Maybe they were welded from the factory, But I didn't weld mine. I just installed them as I described.
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Will the 6way all the way back set you lower than standard tracks? I have unlimited head room in the vert  but I already look at the top of the windshield frame and would like to set lower and further back than the standard tracks let me.
It will sit you lower if you adjust the rear of the seat downward, which also gives you a bit of recline with the same maneuver.
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the primary problem that I have with our chally is the fact that sliding my leg under the steering wheel is usually the issue. I wish there was a way to either raise the steering column or lower the seat to the floor.
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I'm 6'4" 215# and have owned Challengers for over 3 decades and also one cuda. My first Challenger, a '70 T/A with a 4 speed, was uncomfortable for me as my left thigh always hit the steering wheel while using the clutch. I never felt like headroom was a problem and other than my left leg and the steering wheel, I never felt like legroom was bad. My '71 cuda had an automatic and I did feel it was a little lacking in legroom. I questioned if the shorter wheelbase took away a couple inches of front legroom? My '70 Challenger convertible has an automatic and has a 6 way seat. It's always been a very comfortable ride for me, top down or up (though I prefer down!) A couple years back I bought a '71 Challenger 4 speed with leather seats. Bought at an auction with no chance to test drive before buying. After I won the bidding, I'm thinking, WTH did I do that for, this damn car will be as uncomfortable as the T/A to drive! But I was pleasantly surprised to find it is pretty comfortable. The front seats in the '71 seem to sit lower than the '70's? Whatever the case, I have no complaints. I'd be interested in trying out a 4 speed cuda, I suspect that combo might not work for me at all.
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the primary problem that I have with our chally is the fact that sliding my leg under the steering wheel is usually the issue. I wish there was a way to either raise the steering column or lower the seat to the floor.
That's the only problem I ever had.
As far as the relocation brackets above, my grandfather did the same in a 70s horizon he had and it definitely made it more comfortable to drive.
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Hey Film, those look great. What is the thickness of the metal? I wonder can you mount them on the "inside" of the track as well so you don't raise the height of the seat by the thickness of the metal?
I am 6'3 as well, with a good size foot. I just switched out the m/c to an aluminum unit (manual brake car) and I noticed that the brake pedal is closer to the driver then the gas pedal. I made an aluminum spacer (3/8 or 1/2", I can't remember off hand) to move the brake pedal away from the driver. It put it more in line with the gas pedal. The car is apart so I don't know yet if the pedal will bottom out to the floor under heavy braking. Just sitting in the seat and pushing the pedal hard it does not hit the floor (though rug isn't in yet either).
The brackets are 3/16" thick. They cannot be used on the inside of the track; primarily due to the fact that the holes in the brackets are centered (width-wise), and the holes in the tracks are offset (not centered width-wise).
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For me (6' tall) the only issue was ever the standard steering wheel - I agree it is too low and def too close to the driver. My solution 20 years ago was a Grant wheel - no crush can so much closer to the dash, and a smaller wheel to boot. Completely fixed the comfort problem. Of course if you want to keep the standard wheel this does not help
6'2 and 250 lbs and no the car does'nt lean to one side when I'm in there... Seriously though. I added the aftermarket wheel for comfort also...Set the 6-way up for more room and even added a few shims on the passenger side to lean it back a touch for the riders...Big difference with little effort... 
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As mentioned by a few above.
I am 6'5", I have had two e-bodies, the b's aren't much better as the space between your knees and the dash is pretty tight. I put spacers with the front two mounting studs and none under the back. Made a big difference.
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Man they always feel large to me like i am sitting on the floor and the seat is up {not all the way up towards the wheel but up some} Being small has benefits 5'4" 125 or less pounds lets me work under cars well, and under a dash as well Sounds like Ya need a 6 way seat Even the back seat was ok with me in a friends challenger's
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Some of you have sent me PMs asking questions. I have responded to all, but I also like to share the info with those who have been following this topic. Here are some more photos and info. Take note: each photo's file name is unique, and the photo(s) will be preceded by a description. Let's start with the bracket/screw. Each bracket has a front and rear hole drilled for a 5/16" screw/bolt. Only one side of one hole is countersunk for the 5/16-18 flathead hex stainless screw. The bracket measures 2-7/8" long (it can be made longer if desired), and is 1" wide and 3/16" thick.        My seat tracks are currently disassembled for cleaning/painting/lubing. Fortunately, this helps to better see how the brackets work with the seat tracks/seat frames. Photos are of the driver's seat bottom and upper track halves. When using these brackets, there is NO drilling required into the floor, seat frames, or seat tracks. This means you can go back to stock easily and without any molestation to your car, seats, and tracks. They only work between the seat track and the seat frame. Trying to make brackets work inside the track opens up a whole host of issues to overcome. There is no interference with the travel of the seat tracks when the brackets are located between the seat frame and seat track. Inboard Track: First is without brackets, and second is with brackets.   Outboard Track: First without brackets, and second is with brackets.   With the countersunk hole and the flathead screw, there is only an increase in seat height of 3/16". That's because of the bracket being located between the track and seat frame. The following photos show how/where the brackets are attached. This is done BEFORE the tracks are mounted to the bottom of the seat. You can't do it any other way. Brackets attached to FRONT of seat frame:   The next 4 photos show how the front of the tracks are attached to the front brackets.     Brackets attached to REAR of seat tracks:   The next 4 photos show how the rear brackets are attached to the seat frame.     I believe the original bolts used to attach the seat tracks to the seat frame have a 7/16" hex head. I only had these bolts on my passenger seat (I used them to attach the rear brackets to the seat frame for the photos). Standard 5/16-18 bolts ALWAYS have a 1/2" hex head. If you use standard bolts, it will be difficult to get a socket into the seat track and onto the 1/2" bolt head to tighten it. That's probably why the manufacturer used bolts with a 7/16" head. No problem with using a socket on this. The previous owner used standard 5/16-18 bolts with a 1/2" hex head on the driver's seat. I had a very hard time finding 5/16-18 x 3/4" bolts with a 7/16" hex head. Then I stumbled across these bolts in the following photo. They are cheap for a set of 10 and they are hardened steel.   One other note: You should file/grind down the two nubs behind the mounting hole on the front of the seat track. This will allow the bracket to be flush with the track when mounted. The following shows the front of the passenger's seat tracks. These nubs are NOT filed down, but they are on my driver's seat tracks. 
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So someone could use a Grant aftermarket wheel and still use a crush can?
Actually it's grant's E-body adapter{can} for their wheel..They even offer a "plymouth" center cap...
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Interesting. I hadn't experienced that issue when my seat were in the car. However, the prior owner did NOT have seat belt retractor covers installed, and I found that he had relocated the driver's belt retractor almost a full 2" closer to the door.
If the covers were not on it was probalby not a problem. But with the covers on it will be an issue.
I don't see any good way to move the retractor back now. Would be easy enough before the car was all painted, but not now.
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I made brackets just as filmsurgeon posted, I made them 2" from hole to hole so I would gain 2" in seat placement.
Well it all seemed like a good idea but their is a problem. You can not slide the seat back that much further because it hits the seat belt retractor. I think all I gained was about 1" until it the retractor. Looks like I am going to have to go to a smaller wheel....... 
I understand you are rebuilding a 1971. If so, just make a new backing plate with bolt hole. Weld to bottom of floorpan two inchs farther back. That is what I did.
Now if it is a 1970 with the plastic covers, a lot more difficult, especially if it has carpet already.
On my 1971 cuda we cut the floor board and moved the whole section back 3 inches. The part that was removed we welded in front of seat area. Worked great. I can now drive from near the back seat if so desired.
On my 1970 cuda I will have to make some more modifications because of what you say. Good luck.
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Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of...
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I made brackets just as filmsurgeon posted, I made them 2" from hole to hole so I would gain 2" in seat placement.
Well it all seemed like a good idea but their is a problem. You can not slide the seat back that much further because it hits the seat belt retractor. I think all I gained was about 1" until it the retractor. Looks like I am going to have to go to a smaller wheel.......
I understand you are rebuilding a 1971. If so, just make a new backing plate with bolt hole. Weld to bottom of floorpan two inchs farther back. That is what I did.
Now if it is a 1970 with the plastic covers, a lot more difficult, especially if it has carpet already.
On my 1971 cuda we cut the floor board and moved the whole section back 3 inches. The part that was removed we welded in front of seat area. Worked great. I can now drive from near the back seat if so desired.
On my 1970 cuda I will have to make some more modifications because of what you say. Good luck.
Not very practical when the car is all painted and done. Now if I had known this before the fact I would have moved it back when I was replacing the floor...... 
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Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of...
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My 70' Challenger does not have stock seats. I have Kirkey racing seats & we made brackets to move the seats all the way back to the cage main hoop & we made a customer longer tubular steering column to move the wheel further back to my liking, also adapted the factory woodgrain wheel to the removeable adapter. This helps making getting in & out & may help out larger drivers as well even without a cage.
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of...
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I made brackets just as filmsurgeon posted, I made them 2" from hole to hole so I would gain 2" in seat placement.
Well it all seemed like a good idea but their is a problem. You can not slide the seat back that much further because it hits the seat belt retractor. I think all I gained was about 1" until it the retractor. Looks like I am going to have to go to a smaller wheel.......
Wanted to update that this week end I pulled the seat belt retractor off and was able to drill anther hole in the retrator that moved it 1" further to the rear of the car. This let the seat come back another 1". Now between the two mods I think it is accepteable with the oringinal wheel still on it and I can drive it. Smaller wheel would be better yet but I want to keep the original.
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