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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: racealittle] #1411529
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I was just looking at the snow unit, $400 plus.

Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: ] #1411530
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I was just looking at the snow unit, $400 plus.




All I can say is watch ebay, I got a new snow tow max system for a little over 300.00


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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: megajoltman] #1411531
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Mainbody:

This area was hollow so I epoxied it solid. I may endup boring out the base and threading the nozzle directly into the mainbody IF it blows out the gasket

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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1411532
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Base is drilled and tapped for nozzle.
Fitting just for example

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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1411533
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Passage in side of mainbody intersects with passage out the bottom,also threaded to plumb water/meth to the nozzle.

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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1411534
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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1411535
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Its just that simple. Took me all of an hour with a hand drill.
Laided awake for HOURS coming up with the idea.

I have`nt come up with any reasons why it won`t work ........

Thoughts?

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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1411536
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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1411537
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4# This what I`m trying to avoid.

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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1411538
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what kind of spray nozzle are you going to use?


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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: Clanton] #1411539
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The only thing I question about this is it going to cause it to puddle in the blower. Not much room until it hits the rotors and will it make it to all the cylinders not just the middle ones?

Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: challengermike] #1411540
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Possible.but it can't puddle any worse than shooting against the wall of a 3in tube like everyone else does.
No I'm not worried about distribution. Where things go inside there is anyone s. guess.I guess I could use a"T" and run two really small nozzles spraying outward. With 2 rotors spinning 10, 000rpm I doubt it will matter.

Getting a nozzle from McMaster.625ml and a couple other sizes to play with. Their nozzle is very short and will bearly extend past bottom of the carb. giving it the max distance to fan out

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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1411541
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Something is better than nothing Now comes the hard part, what size, mixture ratio and pressure works the best Good luck, BTW, you need two carbs and bigger blower


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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: Cab_Burge] #1411542
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I have 3 carbs on my other car. You send the blower and I promise to use it.


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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1411543
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4# This what I`m trying to avoid.





Is that a KB hyper piston?


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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: Von] #1411544
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4# This what I`m trying to avoid.





Is that a KB hyper piston?



Yes it is. In my 383 lasted about 20seconds.
Too much timing too much compression too much fun. BOOM


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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1411545
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I burned 2 #3's up on my old S/C'd 440. cast speed pros. My fault both times for not turning on the electric pump. Once on a joy ride and once at the 1000 foot mark. Was well on the way to an 11 second pass and the car shimmied and cut off. Still went 12.19. I blame the Mustang in front of me for spitting an axel and making us back up and wait.
As far as jetting, I suggest you buy the Snow Performace Kit. Stage one will probably work. Right now I have the 600hp jet in mine. Don't worry about distro with the blower. Mine is plumbed under the primary only and it seems to hit all 8 just fine. You might even call and ask them if the sell jets seperate.

Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1411546
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The spray barely get 6" out in the open air so don't worry about puddling.I flow tested mine for the fun of it.


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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: Clanton] #1411547
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All valid questions and comments, I`d be BS`ing if I said for sure it will work perfect.

As far as a Snow Kit I won`t need everything now,but that is what I wanted initially.

Nozzles are open ended choice LOTS of different vendors. McMaster Carr has really cheap ones. 4.00 each and only measure 3/4" long. Perfect for where I`m putting them.
If I understand it all: get a nozzle size in range,,,, use pressure to fine tune,,,,mixture is another fine tune tool.
Snow says " get AFR to 12.5 WITHOUT water,then with water ON should should lose no more than .5 AFR I.E.- 12.0 +. That will be safe. Then you can add timing/boost..... Experiment at your own risk from there

So general place to start is 625ml/10gph nozzle at about 60psi. Plan on using "BoostJuice" first then home brewed blends later.

Any other tpis/results/experiences?


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Re: Water/Meth Injection [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1411548
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Nobody uses water/meth?
Whats your tip size/HP. What mix are you using?
Before and after results?


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