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BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? #1395890
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I am switching from factory power steering..to factory manual gear box. What would be the best coupler to use for this modification? I definately want to eliminate the factory "rag joint"! Thanks for the suggestions in advance! Randy B.

Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: Labratt] #1395891
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id call borgeson see if they make an adaptor, but the ps shaft is shorter so you will prob need to find a ms shaft and then modify it to a borgeson joint...I dont know of a way to eliminate the coupler and go to a better unit without making that shaft longer...


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Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: pnypwr] #1395892
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i just used the flamming river u-joint,didnt have to lenghten the shaft.

Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: bonefish] #1395893
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The steering shaft will be to short with the swap to a manual box. I used borgenson a splined /smooth coupler, 3/4" rod and a splined /smooth steering u-joint.

slide the coupler on the box the u joint on the steering shaft and cut the shaft to lenght. weld them uo and you are done sir.

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Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: modelmakerinc] #1395894
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just get this KIT from flamming river,no muss no fuss NO WELDING,itcomes with a extention and a u-joint.

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Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: Labratt] #1395895
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I am switching from factory power steering..to factory manual gear box. What would be the best coupler to use for this modification? I definately want to eliminate the factory "rag joint"! Thanks for the suggestions in advance! Randy B.




Factory rag joint ? ?????

Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: JohnRR] #1395896
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I am switching from factory power steering..to factory manual gear box. What would be the best coupler to use for this modification? I definately want to eliminate the factory "rag joint"! Thanks for the suggestions in advance! Randy B.




Factory rag joint ? ?????


i noticed that too,but I knew what he ment.

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Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: bonefish] #1395897
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just get this KIT from flamming river,no muss no fuss NO WELDING,itcomes with a extention and a u-joint.




What are the negatives when replacing the factory "pot" type connector with a universal joint?


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Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: rbstroker] #1395898
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I don't believe there's any problem other than if you installed it solid that won't allow any in and out movement of column to box. It's got to allow some "slip", like the above image that has the missing set screw maybe.

Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: buildanother] #1395899
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Yeah, I thought that there must be some way to provide a bit of "give". That's why driveshafts have slip yokes and universals. I might be a bit concerned with the set screw missing though.


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Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: rbstroker] #1395900
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The drive shaft has a slip yoke because it needs to move rearward as the suspension drops.

A steering column does not have the problem but it needs to slip a little during installation and a tiny bit with chassis flex.
Cars with rubber isolated K frames or body on frame assemblies need slip in the steering shaft to allow for body flex.

Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: feets] #1395901
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ive been meanin to replace that set screw.

Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: bonefish] #1395902
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I could be wrong but I seem to remember that the shaft will slide out enough to connect to the manual box. The collapsible shaft has a nylon pin that shears during a crash. You can snap it off and pull the shaft outward.
Doug

Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: dvw] #1395903
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Thanks for your help,guys! I will be playing around with the steering some time this week. Gotta get the X back on the road this season...after sitting out 2012,due to lack of funds to purchase needed trim pieces,and various NEW parts. Randy B.

Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: Labratt] #1395904
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please let us know with pics of how you did the mod. good luck.


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Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: modelmakerinc] #1395905
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Thanks,Henry!...I will!

Re: BEST COUPLER FOR GTX??? [Re: Labratt] #1395906
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Not sure of the year, but the coupler in some of the older vans should do the trick.
Jim

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Randy on my 63 I bought this adapter from Mancini as I think it was a Flaming River piece. I used my stock joint over as it was in great shape. This setup has worked fine for me.
And you car looks great Ron



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