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72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? #1382298 02/06/13 02:56 AM 02/06/13 02:56 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog OP Striving for excellence
Kern Dog OP Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	A buddy asked me about the trick to get a cheap 2" lowering using stock parts. I seem to remember something I read here about using lower control arms from certain year vans...something about them having deeper coil spring pockets? Can anyone help elaborate a bit? Thanks, Greg

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: Kern Dog] #1382299 02/06/13 03:51 AM 02/06/13 03:51 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA B BulletBob master
BulletBob master B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA	As far as I know 78-98 at least I've used them from an 80 to a 96 I know. According to the online catalogs 78-98 are interchangeable Height depends on how weak his springs are. This is how high my RC sits in the front with just van LCA's & 225/60/15 7577355-SAM_3409.JPG (187 downloads)

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: BulletBob] #1382300 02/06/13 03:56 AM 02/06/13 03:56 AM
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Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: BulletBob] #1382301 02/06/13 03:59 AM 02/06/13 03:59 AM
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BulletBob master B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA	I build a adjustable travel limiter to hold the springs in place & keeps the shocks from being the stop. It goes where the rubber bumper goes The shock mount gets lower too & if you use a shock for a 4000# front end you will only need the stop to keep the spring in place 7577358-SAM_3412.JPG (172 downloads)

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: Kern Dog] #1382302 02/06/13 04:06 AM 02/06/13 04:06 AM
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76dodgeboy master Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 8,064 Iowa	I chained mine when I cut the coil. Pic of truck control arm. Coils sits on top 7577359-stockcutcoil.jpg (128 downloads)

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1382303 02/06/13 04:10 AM 02/06/13 04:10 AM
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76dodgeboy master Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 8,064 Iowa	Just got this pic from the net. Van cotrol arm. As you can see spring sits down in a pocket. 7577362-vancontrolarm.jpg (168 downloads)

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1382304 02/06/13 04:54 AM 02/06/13 04:54 AM
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BulletBob master B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA	This is it with the van steering stop removed & before my sawzall got a hold of the bump stop bracket 7577367-SAM_3405.JPG (186 downloads)

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: BulletBob] #1382305 02/06/13 07:51 AM 02/06/13 07:51 AM
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340SHORTY Truck Nut Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa	You do need to drill new strut rod holes in the van LCAs because they mount in a different place. Somebody needs to make a template for redrilling the holes.. I have a real nice pair Im not going to use if interested.. I am truckless..

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: 340SHORTY] #1382306 02/07/13 02:26 AM 02/07/13 02:26 AM
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BulletBob master B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA	I have a template that I made a few years back Hidden in a tote in my basement somewhere. I had too much help packing my shop stuff when we moved I have a template made for flipping the front hanger or simply moving it up in 1" increments too When I find it I'll make some for those who want one.

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: BulletBob] #1382307 02/07/13 10:57 AM 02/07/13 10:57 AM
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bigblock340power master B Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,087 Elk Grove, Calif.	Greg, just park in a pot hole! Ok, I've helped enough....... NO, no need to thank me. My work is done here.

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: bigblock340power] #1382308 02/07/13 08:57 PM 02/07/13 08:57 PM
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Kern Dog OP Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	This question was for Randy from the CCM club, Mike. Your humor is appreciated though!

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: BulletBob] #1382309 02/07/13 09:15 PM 02/07/13 09:15 PM
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rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	I just made a template from the stock LCA using the ball joint as a location point and then transferred it to the Van LCA....worked like a charm Picture of the Van LCA with located holes Hope this helps Also....we never had to limit the suspension travel....even with the stock /6 coils....but I did trim the bump stops down quite a bit....has never bottomed out Rickster

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: rickstershemi] #1382310 02/08/13 01:59 AM 02/08/13 01:59 AM
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Kern Dog OP Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	Thanks everyone! I'll pass the words along.

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: rickstershemi] #1382311 02/08/13 03:01 AM 02/08/13 03:01 AM
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340SHORTY Truck Nut Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa	Quote: I just made a template from the stock LCA using the ball joint as a location point and then transferred it to the Van LCA....worked like a charm Picture of the Van LCA with located holes Hope this helps Also....we never had to limit the suspension travel....even with the stock /6 coils....but I did trim the bump stops down quite a bit....has never bottomed out Rickster Where do I send my stamped, self addressed envelope to get a copy ?? I am truckless..

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: Kern Dog] #1382312 02/08/13 03:20 AM 02/08/13 03:20 AM
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76440 super stock 7 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 762 Ca	Camper 9000 trucks also ran a pocketed lower control arm with bigger ball joint.

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: Kern Dog] #1382313 02/08/13 06:11 AM 02/08/13 06:11 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,087 Elk Grove, Calif. B bigblock340power master
bigblock340power master B Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,087 Elk Grove, Calif.	Quote: This question was for Randy from the CCM club, Mike. Your humor is appreciated though! And why would I be holdig back taking pot shots at him too? We're all fair game here!

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: 76440] #1382314 02/08/13 12:39 PM 02/08/13 12:39 PM
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76dodgeboy master Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 8,064 Iowa	Quote: Camper 9000 trucks also ran a pocketed lower control arm with bigger ball joint. So did all True 1ton trucks with the 4400lb front axles. I say True 1ton because when a D350 has a 3300lb front axle rating its a halfton pretending to be a big boy

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: 76440] #1382315 02/08/13 09:08 PM 02/08/13 09:08 PM
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Kern Dog OP Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	Quote: Camper 9000 trucks also ran a pocketed lower control arm with bigger ball joint. I actually have a Camper 9000 that I'll be turning into a trailer. It is a 2 wd, but I'm curious...The big ball joint...Does it require swapping more stuff in to work? 7580688-DSCN0735.JPG (129 downloads)

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: Kern Dog] #1382316 02/08/13 09:21 PM 02/08/13 09:21 PM
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BulletBob master B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA	You have to use the 1 ton steering arm & drill the holes in the spindle from 5/8" to 3/4"

Re: 72-92 D-100: VAN control arms for lowering? [Re: 340SHORTY] #1382317 02/08/13 10:08 PM 02/08/13 10:08 PM
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rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	Quote: Where do I send my stamped, self addressed envelope to get a copy ?? long gone....very easy to duplicate Rickster

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