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Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: That AMC Guy] #1379983
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With a smaller hole for the oil to drain out how do the lumps get out when the oil change is a tad over due ??


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Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: That AMC Guy] #1379984
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My guys would unscrew it and drain it the regular way!


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Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: BDW] #1379985
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Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: JohnRR] #1379986
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That is quite the nicely engineered piece. Of course, I didn't realize that unscrewing a drain plug twice a year was such a hassle that it required such a device.


Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: dhkennedy] #1379987
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What's next a "dry-break" system for the gas tank filler because a quarter turn cap takes too much time to open and close?



Saw on YT that a Ford has that, no cap just shove the filler in the tube.




Actually the '13 Charger has no fuel cap either - just a shove-it system. No issues so far with it but I think I'll stick with a conventional oil drain plug on my vehicles. Murphy sometimes follows me...


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Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: That AMC Guy] #1379988
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I'll admit, I do get tired of having 5 cars all with different size drain plugs and not having the mental facilities to remember which car has what.




Had that problem too. Then I wrote each vehicle and wrench required on the garage wall for reference. Fixed.

I'd rather just stick with the bigger/lower opening without the new widget.


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Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: 340SHORTY] #1379989
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With a smaller hole for the oil to drain out how do the lumps get out when the oil change is a tad over due ??





LUMPS? how many miles do you put on between oil changes? Back in the 60's when people used non detergent oil for 20 thousand miles you would get lumps [ sludge ] but not anymore.


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Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: A12] #1379990
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Would you put it on a race car........if not then why on a street car?

Drain bolt = one (1) moving part. Proven pretty darn reliable, about a $1 or two at the most. A good running engine with oil in it, about $$$$$$.

How often do you change the oil to have to use a quick drain system?

What's next a "dry-break" system for the gas tank filler because a quarter turn cap takes too much time to open and close?




Not just that but really how messy is draining the oil during an oil change?

Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: Donny] #1379991
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I think some of you are over thinking a simple task! At least the simple part. Now, if someone would come up with a better way to get at the oil filter......... I know, remote filter.

Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: bigblock340power] #1379992
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I think some of you are over thinking a simple task! At least the simple part. Now, if someone would come up with a better way to get at the oil filter......... I know, remote filter.




Better way to get the filter....BIG BLOCK....

Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: That AMC Guy] #1379993
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I think the next logical step would be to make a drain valve that takes a hex or torx style bit to turn.

Granted, I've never really had people crawling under my cars trying to figure out what oil drain plug I had, but something with a little security makes sense.

I'll admit, I do get tired of having 5 cars all with different size drain plugs and not having the mental facilities to remember which car has what.


thats why i use a adjustable wrench.

Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: dhkennedy] #1379994
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What's next a "dry-break" system for the gas tank filler because a quarter turn cap takes too much time to open and close?



Saw on YT that a Ford has that, no cap just shove the filler in the tube.




Many chrysler products have this as well.If you need to add fuel out of a normal can,in the trunk/cargo area is a special funnel that gets inserted first.The nozzle releases the locks.
jeep,some trucks,charger, challenger,viper all have capless fuel system.

The oil drain valve could be useful.depends how far it hung down(clearance issues?) good advantage is It should save from stripped drain plugs.Some people are animals,some pans are just weak in that area.most do it you're self people are ok.I can speak from experience.The shop I worked at years ago had a contract with local quicky oil change shop.stripped drain plugs where a daily repair,couple oil pan jobs a week,and a couple engines a month.Had to drop them because couldn't keep up with our daily customers.I see the valve being useful if the quality is good and clearance isn't an issue

Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: moretoys] #1379995
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You guys have touched on all the reason I added the valve.

- Having to crawl back under the car after not having the right size wrench the 1st time
- Worrying about getting it cross-threaded and stripping the pan
- It will definitely help me do the changes more often

And my all-time favorite:
No more hot / splashed oil on my hands or garage floor.

The car needs to be on ramps or jack stands to change the oil.
Now if you’re honest you’ll admit this has happened to you more than once:

After contorting yourself under the car the drain plug snags on the last thread and you don’t jerk it away fast enough at the precise right angle and the hot oil splashes out as you drop it in the drain pan cursing.

I understand it’s not for everyone, but no more headaches for me.

Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: BDW] #1379996
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Looks to me like a bunch of the naysayers failed to notice that there is a plug AFTER the valve.

Not a realistic chance of you losing your oil.

It's also simpler to control the oil when draining and much cleaner.

Any of you naysayers ever put a petcock in the block to drain coolant? I do, one on each side. Way easier to drain coolant as needed, which is much less often than an oil change.

Of course people who actually work on their cars would appreciate things like that, those who don't mock them.


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Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: bigblock340power] #1379997
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I think some of you are over thinking a simple task! At least the simple part. Now, if someone would come up with a better way to get at the oil filter......... I know, remote filter.




on the gm 80s "tech 4" four cyl,the drain plug was a 3" hand screw type setup in the bottom of the pan that held the oil filter on top of the big plug,,,,, so the drain plug WAS the oil filter!the filter was an open type element and had an o ring on top that screwed into the bottom of the pickup(you could see it if you looked up thru the bottom of the big hole in the pan)

so oil was filtered before it went into the pickup tube and the pump doesnt get to eat dirt.ive often pondered putting this typ of setup on a mopar.

Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: Supercuda] #1379998
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Of course people who actually work on their cars would appreciate things like that, those who don't mock them.





I'm pretty sure that 99.99% of the members on here have turned a wrench or two and removed an oil pan bolt at least once in their life..............just think it's funny to over complicate a simple task with more parts than necessary especially a car or truck older than 30 years old. What's next adding fuel injection because you might need to adjust the idle speed every so often and you have to go and get a screwdriver to do it?

And remember the subject title of the OP

"Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not?"


I mean he did ask us to GO AHEAD AND LAUGH and then ask Why Not? So we've had a laugh or two and told him WHY NOT.

Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: A12] #1379999
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So we've had a laugh or two and told him WHY NOT.
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I haven't really heard a good reason for why not, other than you don't think it's "manly"

I'm not trying to convince anyone to change their drain plug, just happy it works for me.

Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1380000
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I could use a couple of those on my junk,




Why? Does it hurt when you pee? Cranberry juice, man!!!


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Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: BDW] #1380001
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So we've had a laugh or two and told him WHY NOT.
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I haven't really heard a good reason for why not, other than you don't think it's "manly"

I'm not trying to convince anyone to change their drain plug, just happy it works for me.




Is this the same FUMOTO valve?


Re: Go ahead and laugh, I'm lazy, Why not? [Re: A12] #1380002
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Better question; Would you put it on your airplane?




Actually, quick drains like this are very common on airplanes. Usually of the push and twist style but this could work too.

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