Re: Rollbars/cages livable on the street?
[Re: hudsonhornet7x]
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01/17/13 01:59 PM
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At the very least I'd use a 4 point cage (& likely more) plus subframe connectors. No info on a kit but as you said it'd be about how much jungle jim you're willing to tolerate.
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Re: Rollbars/cages livable on the street?
[Re: RapidRobert]
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01/17/13 02:03 PM
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At the very least I'd use a 4 point cage (& likely more) plus subframe connectors. No info on a kit but as you said it'd be about how much jungle jim you're willing to tolerate.
THanks, I have installed subframe connectors, torque boxes, inner fender to firewall braces, and a radiator core support brace. i want to stregthen the car as much as I can.
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Re: Rollbars/cages livable on the street?
[Re: hudsonhornet7x]
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01/17/13 02:06 PM
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I wouldn't want a roll cage on a street car. I've been led to believe that a roll cage should only be used in a car where the driver is wearing a helmet,race car style restraints and protective gear. A typical 3 point seat belt allows a person's body to move around in the car to a degree. In an accident, a person's head could slam into the roll cage causing injuries.
A roll bar located behind the front seats in a car that doesn't have a back seat would probably be ok, but I'm not an expert on this subject.
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Re: Rollbars/cages livable on the street?
[Re: hudsonhornet7x]
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If you go to Dodge Charger.com,and look at the pictures posted by member Elanmar,and see what his car looked like after a side impact crash,you will want to put a cage in every Mopar from this era. My friend was hit broadside in his 73 Road Runner a few weeks ago and the results were about the same. These cars have zero side impact protection. If my friend was hit on the drivers side he would have died. If he had a passenger with them they would have died. The passengers seat was crushed into the drivers seat. He could stand up with his feet on the ground where the passengers seat used to be! The rocker panel and roof were crushed all the way to the center of the car. I'm currently building a 71 Charger for a daily driver,and i'm looking into a cage and beefing up the rocker panels to improve side impact protection.
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Re: Rollbars/cages livable on the street?
[Re: chargervert]
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Hardtop cars, without a post connecting the rocker panels to the roof do NOT fare well in side impacts! (They look good though!)
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Re: Rollbars/cages livable on the street?
[Re: chargervert]
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My Challenger is a street car with a 25.5 cert cage. Drag Radials, Plated insured & parachute mount slides out & can be placed in the trunk. I have a flip down license plate braket on the rear from a 68' Chevelle for the when the chute bracket is on the car I don't have to remove the license plate.
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Re: Rollbars/cages livable on the street?
[Re: dustergirl340]
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01/17/13 02:35 PM
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Your head can travel a long distance during an impact, and hitting a metal bar (even padded with foam) without a helmet would hurt. Even a thick head like mine.
I like to sometimes putt around with my three kids in the back seat of the car sometimes. For that reason I will never put a roll bar in my car while it still has a back seat in it. Way too dangerous for whoever is sitting in back IMHO.
I'll run 11.50s with a lap belt before I will do that. At the point someday I run faster than 11.49, a roll bar will go in and the back seat will come out.
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Re: Rollbars/cages livable on the street?
[Re: 67Satty]
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01/17/13 04:38 PM
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I was thinking of making the roof hoop so it would fit up tight to the roof just inside the roof structure,then padding it and putting the headliner over it so it is hidden. I was going to pad the roof with insulation to make it seamless. I was going to make the rear seat cross brace removable so it could come out when people are in the rear seat. It could be held in with cleavis pins,and have padded caps with snaps to fit over the recievers when not in use.
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Re: Rollbars/cages livable on the street?
[Re: hudsonhornet7x]
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01/17/13 05:23 PM
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10 PT CAGE IN MY 70 CUDA STREET CAR SWING OUT SIDE BARS NO HALO OR BAR BAR BEHIND THE FRONT SEATS ALSO LEFT OUT THE DASH BAR CAR RUNS 10.0 AND NEVER HAD PROBLEM WITH TECH
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Re: Rollbars/cages livable on the street?
[Re: BUBBAZ572]
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01/17/13 06:37 PM
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10 PT CAGE IN MY 70 CUDA STREET CAR SWING OUT SIDE BARS NO HALO OR BAR BAR BEHIND THE FRONT SEATS ALSO LEFT OUT THE DASH BAR CAR RUNS 10.0 AND NEVER HAD PROBLEM WITH TECH
Would it be possible to get a couple pics of your cage? It sounds very interesting.
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