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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid and know..
[Re: ntstlgl1970]
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09/05/15 02:35 AM
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Darius has been struggling to get his car driving right, he is in the same car club as me. To my knowledge he is not running the NAG1 as a stand alone....
The NAG1 is the same as the mercedes transmission that they use in a bunch of different chassis with a different id - I think it's called a 722.6 or something like that.
Quick followup on the NAG1- I talked to Darius at Sac raceway last weekend and he finally got his trans sorted out, its not a stand alone controller though. Biggest problem is just chrysler not wanting to support these types of swaps by sharing data like GM and Ford do.
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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid and know..
[Re: Chris'sBarracuda]
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09/27/15 01:48 AM
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I had not seen that, thanks Chris
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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid and know..
[Re: Street Monkies]
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09/28/15 01:24 AM
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Roughly what is the cost to build one of these engines for drag race use? From low to high cost. Depends on your HP target. Buggest inhibitor is the crappy slugs, piston/valve clearance and rods - so with an unopened motor I dont think youd see much more than appx 520 fwhp NA with a 6.1' ported heads, cam, headers, tune and modded intake.
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67 RO23 clone with 6.1 SRT Hemi and dual quads. Soon to have Drag Pak induction and Throttle body.
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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid and know..
[Re: Just-a-dart]
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09/28/15 04:53 AM
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I had not seen that, thanks Chris Welcome Don.. I just noticed that I didn't title it.. DONE..  Chris.. 
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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid and know..
[Re: gregsdart]
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10/17/15 03:05 PM
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Eagle 65cc
6.1 73cc
Whichever ones you have use, or get Apaches.
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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid and know..
[Re: gregsdart]
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10/26/15 07:57 PM
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If using a 6.4 apache head on an early 5.7 block what head gasket is needed? 5.7 bore is likely too small, will the 6.4 work? 6.1?
-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid and know..
[Re: gregsdart]
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10/28/15 05:57 AM
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I was told to use the gasket that matches the block. As far as bore goes, there must be an after market gasket that will work. Guys have bored the 5.7 to 4.00. According to a picture of Apache heads sitting on a 5.7 un bored block, the chambers on the Apache heads are small enough to work with a 4.00 bore gasket.
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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid and know..
[Re: gregsdart]
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10/28/15 01:33 PM
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Cometic 5.7L gaskets are 4.100 bore, so should be good there.
-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid and know..
[Re: gregsdart]
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10/29/15 05:15 PM
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All 6.1's use the same head, its just known as the 6.1, no code name.
-Dustin
67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi
68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid and know..
[Re: WO23Coronet]
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10/29/15 05:28 PM
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They're just called 6.1 heads, no fancy name for them, still a good head, flow #'s comparable to an Eagle head Do they have problems with seats popping out?
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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid and know..
[Re: WO23Coronet]
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10/29/15 11:31 PM
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I don't think so, it's the early 5.7 heads that we're known to do that, and generally (but not always) only if they were heated/ran hot Think it was over reved and broke top of lifter. Looked in pushrod hole with bore scope, saw seat beat up
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Re: Gen III Hemi, please post things to avoid and know..
[Re: gregsdart]
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It is a BFNY build, IIRC Eagle heads, 12.1 and a decent cam.
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