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new best for the "land yacht" #1365474 01/06/13 10:26 PM 01/06/13 10:26 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Ran a 10.50 @ 120.77 at Speedworld on Saturday. Yes, only 120. 1.44 60 foot. Lost 2 plugs in high gear when the ground straps melted off. Damage accessment to follow. 7536051-speedworld10.50.jpg (246 downloads) Fastest 300

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Crizila] #1365475 01/06/13 10:31 PM 01/06/13 10:31 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Good and bad story............I assume you squeeze this thing? 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Thumperdart] #1365476 01/06/13 11:16 PM 01/06/13 11:16 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Good and bad story............I assume you squeeze this thing? Yep. 7536143-blrmtr4.jpg (161 downloads) Fastest 300

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Crizila] #1365477 01/06/13 11:18 PM 01/06/13 11:18 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,813 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,813 MI, usa	Quote: Ran a 10.50 @ 120.77 at Speedworld on Saturday. Yes, only 120. 1.44 60 foot. Lost 2 plugs in high gear when the ground straps melted off. Damage accessment to follow. Hopefully you got lucky. My 340 always got a piston or a head gasket. Since I reduced my timing (1991) to 30 total it 's never hurt itself again at12lbs boost. Doug 7536147-IMG_7816.JPG (88 downloads)

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Crizila] #1365478 01/06/13 11:22 PM 01/06/13 11:22 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Quote: Quote: Good and bad story............I assume you squeeze this thing? Yep. Oh, THAT kind of squeeze..............hope there`s not much damage for you. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Thumperdart] #1365479 01/06/13 11:46 PM 01/06/13 11:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,158 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,158 Park Forest, IL	Hope it's not too bad John. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: dvw] #1365480 01/07/13 02:00 PM 01/07/13 02:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Quote: Ran a 10.50 @ 120.77 at Speedworld on Saturday. Yes, only 120. 1.44 60 foot. Lost 2 plugs in high gear when the ground straps melted off. Damage accessment to follow. Hopefully you got lucky. My 340 always got a piston or a head gasket. Since I reduced my timing (1991) to 30 total it 's never hurt itself again at12lbs boost. Doug Same timing I was running. Unfortunately, a little more boost - 25 psi. Fastest 300

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Crizila] #1365481 01/07/13 02:27 PM 01/07/13 02:27 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Quote: Quote: Quote: Ran a 10.50 @ 120.77 at Speedworld on Saturday. Yes, only 120. 1.44 60 foot. Lost 2 plugs in high gear when the ground straps melted off. Damage accessment to follow. Hopefully you got lucky. My 340 always got a piston or a head gasket. Since I reduced my timing (1991) to 30 total it 's never hurt itself again at12lbs boost. Doug Same timing I was running. Unfortunately, a little more boost - 25 psi. This is one of the reasons I run N/A. I can barely tune my heap let alone nos or blower stuff......... When you gonna tear into it? 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Thumperdart] #1365482 01/07/13 02:58 PM 01/07/13 02:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Congrats on the new best. Hope you did not hurt it to bad. Ron

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Thumperdart] #1365483 01/07/13 03:08 PM 01/07/13 03:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Ran a 10.50 @ 120.77 at Speedworld on Saturday. Yes, only 120. 1.44 60 foot. Lost 2 plugs in high gear when the ground straps melted off. Damage accessment to follow. Hopefully you got lucky. My 340 always got a piston or a head gasket. Since I reduced my timing (1991) to 30 total it 's never hurt itself again at12lbs boost. Doug Same timing I was running. Unfortunately, a little more boost - 25 psi. This is one of the reasons I run N/A. I can barely tune my heap let alone nos or blower stuff......... When you gonna tear into it? Probably tomorrow. I had no business running that amount of boost. Stupid me!! Ran with the wrong size pulley on the blower for the rest of the set up. All I needed to do was run the larger blower pulley with the CORRECT belt tension. One thing about drag racing - when you do stupid stuff, you always pay. Fastest 300

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Crizila] #1365484 01/07/13 03:25 PM 01/07/13 03:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge FastmOp master
FastmOp master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge	I'd do a compression check. If its good then go a range colder on the plugs, back the timing back five to seven degrees and depending on A/F fattin it up a couple jets and try again. Once its dialed in for hi boost it's time to play!

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: FastmOp] #1365485 01/07/13 07:11 PM 01/07/13 07:11 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: I'd do a compression check. If its good then go a range colder on the plugs, back the timing back five to seven degrees and depending on A/F fattin it up a couple jets and try again. Once its dialed in for hi boost it's time to play! Ya,all the above. Just ran a comp test and all appears good (within 2 lbs from previous test on all holes ). Valve train all looks good, including lash. Attached pic of plugs - NGK ZFR5F. Two burned ones were in holes 4 & 5. I'm open for suggestions on plugs? Could go a few steps colder - or maybe something that isn't an extended core? Already 5 sizes bigger on the jets all around - as I received the blower carb from ProSystems ( annular discharge 950 ). I could use some help with plug selection ( 408 blower motor with ported Magnums ). 7537123-NGKZFR5F.jpg (99 downloads) Fastest 300

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Crizila] #1365486 01/07/13 07:17 PM 01/07/13 07:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,355 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,355 Las Vegas	Go to the race plugs first off. Start with a plug on the colder side and go from there. Does not look to bad do as fastmop suggests and get after it. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Crizila] #1365487 01/07/13 09:12 PM 01/07/13 09:12 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,813 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,813 MI, usa	Quote: Quote: I'd do a compression check. If its good then go a range colder on the plugs, back the timing back five to seven degrees and depending on A/F fattin it up a couple jets and try again. Once its dialed in for hi boost it's time to play! Ya,all the above. Just ran a comp test and all appears good (within 2 lbs from previous test on all holes ). Valve train all looks good, including lash. Attached pic of plugs - NGK ZFR5F. Two burned ones were in holes 4 & 5. I'm open for suggestions on plugs? Could go a few steps colder - or maybe something that isn't an extended core? Already 5 sizes bigger on the jets all around - as I received the blower carb from ProSystems ( annular discharge 950 ). I could use some help with plug selection ( 408 blower motor with ported Magnums ). Ah,Lucky. I think 25lbs might work intercooled. Would need less timing, 22-25? The super rich part I'm not convinced. Just as running a nitrous motor,way rich usually spells trouble. I've found 11.8-12.0 to work well. Mine always hurt #5. Doug

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Al_Alguire] #1365488 01/07/13 10:01 PM 01/07/13 10:01 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Go to the race plugs first off. Start with a plug on the colder side and go from there. Does not look to bad do as fastmop suggests and get after it. Will look at going with some race plugs and maybe cutting the timing back a few degrees ( 30 to 28 ). Maybe go up a nozzle size on the water injection. Think I will also go back to a 4" blower pulley ( was running a 3.7" ) until I can get a clean run out of it. Fastest 300

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Crizila] #1365489 01/07/13 11:17 PM 01/07/13 11:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge FastmOp master
FastmOp master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge	Do you know the A/F of that run before it got hot? Get some vids on YouTube. It's winter and were bored

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Crizila] #1365490 01/07/13 11:24 PM 01/07/13 11:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ Duner top fuel
Duner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ	Glad you didn't hurt it. I was doing some dyno testing, and mine wasn't happy beyond 21� of timing at 18 psi of boost. I'm running 9.5:1 compression. Oh, and GREAT TIME TOO!!! Last edited by Duner; 01/07/13 11:24 PM.

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Duner] #1365491 01/07/13 11:37 PM 01/07/13 11:37 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Put the biggest nozzle in the meth inj. Run a ngk 5671-9 or 10 and let her rip. 11.8-12.0 is a good afr to shoot for on a blower motor. Last edited by 1967DartGT; 01/07/13 11:39 PM. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: 1967dartgt] #1365492 01/08/13 12:34 AM 01/08/13 12:34 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Put the biggest nozzle in the meth inj. Run a ngk 5671-9 or 10 and let her rip. 11.8-12.0 is a good afr to shoot for on a blower motor. Thanks for the plug recommendations. Can't keep it lit with the biggest nozzle, but I will go to the middle size. I don't monitor A/F, but looking in to a wide band unit. Thanks Duner. I do have a video of the run as I was monitoring the boost and tach gauges. Rev limiter was set at 7K and I was up against it several times. Surprised it went 10.50 as I was in and out of the throttle at the end of the run. I'll try and post it. Fastest 300

Re: new best for the "land yacht" [Re: Crizila] #1365493 01/08/13 02:09 AM 01/08/13 02:09 AM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 928 NC S SLOW67 super stock
SLOW67 super stock S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 928 NC	I've read alot of bad things about running meth if you don't have almost perfect distribution across all the intake runners...don't know this from experience though. As for the wideband, I've got a LM-2 Innovate and I love it. It kept me from pulling my hair out trying to get a good safe tune. I run 93 pump (E10) on the street and 100LL avgas when I want to set it on kill. I've been as high as 18lbs with cast pistons and avgas, would have never felt safe doing it without a wideband

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