Re: Aluminum Heads
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01/08/13 03:03 PM
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i dont know why they would ever do it for a 68 car since reproduction iron heads are available,,,,
im not trying to be spiteful or anything jay,,, just dont know why people would get wound up about it,,, everybody says they will make less hp,, and they have to carry more weight
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Re: Aluminum Heads
[Re: moderncylinder]
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01/08/13 03:51 PM
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Is there any gain in affecting the weight distribution? 40 lbs off front, 100 lbs more in the rear? I guess we'll see.
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Re: Aluminum Heads
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01/08/13 05:30 PM
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It was highlighted in yellow in the guide on 1/4/2013, as of today, 1/8/2013, it is not in the guide. I have a copy of the guide from 1/4/2013 when I downloaded the excel file that shows it. When I checked it today, it isn't there.
It was there and now, poof, its gone.
It was in the NHRA Engine Blueprint Specifications on 1/4 and is still there today, 1/8, as a cylinder head casting.
E = 2780559,2780559-M, 559-M1, 2531110M2 alum
Anyone know what a 559-M1 head is? That was added since 1/4, which previously only listed the 2531110M2 alum. Is there another source for steel head castings?
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Re: Aluminum Heads
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01/08/13 06:40 PM
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That 599M1 is in yellow as it was just added in 2013, so it is only now a legal casting to run. It wasn't in there prior to the most recent update. So mopar makes two reproduction steel hemi heads? I didn't know that. Wondering why the new part number was there with the AL addition.
Matt Welker
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Re: Aluminum Heads
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01/08/13 07:36 PM
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cant speak to exact,, but "most" of all the "new" ray stuff is with an m1 casting,, and "most" of charlies stuff is with an m1 casting,, more metal around intake port,,, better exh port, deeper long side,, m1 head is a few lbs heavier than an m head
i asked about running an m1 head about 2 years ago and was told to grind the 1 off at the end of the part number
i just looked,, they took the weight off the aluminum head,, this is soooooooooo stupid
jeff
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Re: Aluminum Heads
[Re: moderncylinder]
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01/08/13 10:33 PM
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a side note,,, if you say a "replacement head" has to carry a 10hp hit,,, what that is implying is that any head other than a factory 559 head will be hit,, maybe thats why they took it off,,, because really,, they would be adding 60lbs to every car in the class
559m,,,, 559m1,,, and now 110m2 heads are all replacements for the original 559
jeff
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Re: Aluminum Heads
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01/09/13 12:07 PM
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the guy who pushed it is like 70 years old and cant take his own head off his motor in the car or even on a stand.... chill out everyone
chuck,, no clue,, who,, what is going to gainsville,, nobody knows what the rule is on the v-cover bolt yet
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Re: Aluminum Heads
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01/09/13 01:10 PM
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I talked to Bruce Monday and he said he would make a decision this week on the heads. I am mad at myself Jeff for not keeping on this to get it resolved. I am planing on going to Gainesville and if they rule against the heads i am screwed . Chuck
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