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hydraulic clutch install question
#1352411
12/16/12 01:26 AM
12/16/12 01:26 AM
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wine country
8urvette
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has anyone installed or had installed the HYDRAMAX hydraulic clutch setup in their car? I would really like some pics- mine is an a body, with proparts headers and nothing wants to fit, not even pretend to fit, there is interference issue with everything.  little help please.
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Re: hydraulic clutch install question
[Re: 8urvette]
#1352414
12/16/12 05:15 AM
12/16/12 05:15 AM
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IL
EchoSixMike
mopar
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mopar
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Wilwood master cylinder?
I'm using stock pedals joined to a Wilwood MC with a threaded sleeve and fabbed bracket. McCleod hydraulic throwout bearing. There is some "massaging" required. What doesn't fit? S/F....Ken M
Last edited by EchoSixMike; 12/16/12 05:16 AM.
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Re: hydraulic clutch install question
[Re: 8urvette]
#1352420
12/18/12 11:31 AM
12/18/12 11:31 AM
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South-Central (Sebring), FL
Commando1
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i cant see (how) the stock throw of the clutch will be even close to the what my hydraulic master requires. The throw is like 5 inches stock, and i only need about 1 inch with the wilwood master... so i am curious how people have overcome this... but it seems nobody has even tried it.
You're not understanding ratios.
In a fairly rough example of what you said, 5" of pedal travel should result in 1" of M/C travel.
It's not 1:1. It's simple high school sophomore geometry.
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Re: hydraulic clutch install question
[Re: 8urvette]
#1352423
12/19/12 04:23 AM
12/19/12 04:23 AM
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Bend,OR USA
Cab_Burge
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I Win
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My 4 speed 1969 GTS Dart has a hydraulic clutch conversion kit that the former owner put in it, it has a hydraulic throw out bearing mounted on the input shaft as far as I can tell. I think he bought the kit from Keisler, it was expensive, near $500.00 I think several years back  He is dead now so I can't ask him. Call Kiesler or E mail them and see if they still offer it, it is very small and compact and it works okay  I haven't mess with it yet, I'm getting ready to swapped the two piece scatter sheild out for a stock bellhousing and put the stock mechanical clutch linkgae back in it  The car is a real 383 H code 4 speed car so it is worth putting all the stock stuff back on it that I can  There getting worth more and more every day  
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: hydraulic clutch install question
[Re: 70BIRD]
#1352426
12/19/12 02:11 PM
12/19/12 02:11 PM
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Oh Canada
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I have an external slave for that very reason. If it leaks, I don't have to pull trans
71 Barracuda 383 4spd (500ci)
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77 t/a 6.0 turbo project
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Re: hydraulic clutch install question
[Re: 8urvette]
#1352429
12/20/12 10:58 AM
12/20/12 10:58 AM
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Joined: Mar 2007
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South-Central (Sebring), FL
Commando1
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i wish i could have done stock linkage...
i splurged and bought all fancy hydraulic junk, thinking it would be best. but their install instructions leave something to be desired.
I have an A-body with 440 and victor heads, along with older modded proparts headers, and a lakewood bellhousing, i don't have much rom for anything. I am still trying to figure out where to even put my hydraulic Master.
When I first went all hydraulic, I thought to myself WTH did I get myself into???
After a long sorting out process, a 1/2 dozen pulls on the transmission, countless conversations with others who have it (forget Customer Service - if it ain't a Chevy, they're clueless), and lots of trial and error, it works much better than the all-mechanical setup. I would do it again in a heartbeat now that I know what I'm doing, but it's not for the timid and it's CERTAINLY not Plug 'n Play despite what all the descriptions on the manufacturer's websites say.
If your all-mechanical setup is working fine, the changeover is then not worth it.
It's great if you're going from an automatic transmission to manual tranny, especially in oddball situations.
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Re: hydraulic clutch install question
[Re: 8urvette]
#1352430
12/20/12 11:40 AM
12/20/12 11:40 AM
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Ohio
70BIRD
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i wish i could have done stock linkage...
i splurged and bought all fancy hydraulic junk, thinking it would be best. but their install instructions leave something to be desired.
I have an A-body with 440 and victor heads, along with older modded proparts headers, and a lakewood bellhousing, i don't have much rom for anything. I am still trying to figure out where to even put my hydraulic Master.
I mounted my MC at the front right of car behind headlights and ran a braided line down frame rail to pedal. I know you have an A-body but I can send you pics if you want them, might help a little as I also have headers, lakewood housing, Indy heads, etc.
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