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MoPig oil system --> NOW WITH PICTURES!!! 8^) #1342570
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What I ran before on the 440 that pushed my 3750# Challenger into the mid-10s was the MP Street Hemi replica pan w/ a OEM-type windage tray modified by me to have some additional drainage louvres, and a 1/2" OEM-type pickup. Pretty basic stuff, really.

However, I'll be the first to admit that's an unsophisticated oil system for a 600+ HP engine and am looking to improve it while staying w/ a simple(r) low-profile system, rather than start fearing every parking lot speedbump crushing a deeper 7" pan.

So I...

1. got a Milodon Street Hemi replica pan because it's made better than the spot-welded POS that MP sells

1. got an Ishara-Johnson crank scraper to help strip oil off the crank and keep it down in the bottom end

2. got a full-length louvred windage tray from 440 Source (a less expensive Milodon-style tray) to replace my home-louvred MP tray

3. added perimeter oil drainage passages to the windage try that are already present in the I-J crank scraper; also I added a few more to the scraper than it came with, since I thought there was room for improvement in helping drain oil that collected on the edge of the block rather than going down into the windage tray

4. added more louvres to the windage tray where I thought it made sense, primarily to give the oil coming back down from the crank scraper an exit path

5. had a local race shop fabricate & install a larger accel/decel baffle over the open center sump area to provide more coverage of the sump during hard g-forces

6. had that shop also fabricate & install some drainage dams to help channel the oil being pulled off by the windage tray back towards the center sump (inspired by some BMW oil pan pictures I saw)

All of this is in the hope of ending up w/ a more effcient oiling system that still uses an OEM-type low-profile pan. Only time will tell...

Yes, I'll post some pictures when there's time to take 'em and install the new photo manager software on our "rebuilt" home computer."

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Re: MoPig oil system --> Preview of coming attractions 8^P [Re: BradH] #1342571
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Looking forward to the work. I'm using the I-J scraper but without a windage tray.8qt Moroso pan,but I want to go with the 6qt Milodon as I too want to avoid the crushing of a deep pan.


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Re: MoPig oil system --> Preview of coming attractions 8^P [Re: BradH] #1342572
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Sounds good Brad
I am also tired of hearing my aluminum oil pan scrape on the manhole covers
I was wondering about the quality of the cheap imitations out there
So the Milodon it is then with a crank scraper
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Re: MoPig oil system --> Preview of coming attractions 8^P [Re: BradH] #1342573
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Old pan: MP Street Hemi replica (unmodified)

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View 2 of MP pan

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Modified Milodon Street Hemi pan shown here. Standard baffling is basically (not exactly) the same as the MP piece, so the additional sump cover and drainage dams stand out pretty clearly.

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Top view of Milodon pan w/ mods.

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OEM-type windage tray to which I added some louvres.

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Another view of modified OEM windage tray that I used to run w/ the MP Street Hemi pan.

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440 Source Milodon-type windage tray to which I added perimeter drainage holes matching the I-J crank scraper.

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A different view of new modified windage tray.

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I-J crank scraper mocked up on block.

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Different perspective on crank scraper showing the deflector tabs used to catch oil on the "down swing" vs. the tabs used on the other side to scrape it off on the "up swing.

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Tray mocked up in pan.

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Scraper on tray mocked up in pan.

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Just for the he11 of it, a less-than-focused picture that shows the profiling I did to the leading edges of the Eagle crank 'cuz the original "square as a brick" corners didn't sit well with me.

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You did this after it was balanced, didn't you Brad?
Looking forward to seeing the Challenger at the track again!! Let me know if you need a hand with anything.. I'm only an hour away at most and my last-ever winter break is fast approaching.

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Just for the he11 of it, a less-than-focused picture that shows the profiling I did to the leading edges of the Eagle crank 'cuz the original "square as a brick" corners didn't sit well with me.


Never seen a scraper that covers the whole pan rail before...........I like it and it looks like you bend that inner ledge to profile to your crank if I`m seeing that right.


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I looks to me like you have a great combo there. The only thing left that could be done would be a side bucket on the pan if this system still has oil pressure loss at any point. I once put an oil pressure gauge on a motor with huge (3/16?) line and a larger inlet hole on the gauge. You could see the oil pump pulse at idle. That and an an in car video will tell the tale! What weight oil do you run?


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