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Re: Something DIFFERENT........lets talk DRAGSTERS.
[Re: rickstershemi]
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11/21/12 02:58 PM
11/21/12 02:58 PM
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Al_Alguire
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
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Re: Something DIFFERENT........lets talk DRAGSTERS.
[Re: B G Racing]
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11/21/12 05:48 PM
11/21/12 05:48 PM
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Heaven
EvilB1Dart
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Having run dragster years ago I compared it to oval track racing.
Oval track racing:Count to 9 turn left,count to 9 turn left...repeat 2 more times.
Racing a dragster:Count to 4,5,6,7 or what ever an pull the chute.
J/K 
I enjoyed racing the dragster as much as we like running the blower car.  
Bob, that just ain't right man, but it made me laugh really loud! 
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Re: Something DIFFERENT........lets talk DRAGSTERS.
[Re: mopdragster]
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11/21/12 08:15 PM
11/21/12 08:15 PM
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Chris'sBarracuda
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Hey Wes???? Did you fall down and bump your head??  Probably something you ate.. Chris.. 
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Re: Something DIFFERENT........lets talk DRAGSTERS.
[Re: EvilB1Dart]
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11/22/12 02:00 AM
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Shelbyville, TN USA
40ford
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mopar addict
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Shelbyville, TN USA
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Just a Comment----from someone who only knows a little about lightweight, FED that races in nostalgia races only.
Unsprung FEDs are lightweight cars. And, they flex a lot under accel/decel. But they can (and do) flex even more while riding in a trailer. So, If you buy a "Flexi-Flyer" chassis a center chassis support is useful while transporting. Something simple will do---we use a carpet wrapped 2X4 under the midplate. We pick up the front slightly to slip the board under.
That brings up the second point-----the used chassis. Is it a bent---also know as a "killed" chassis? Better look real close at a used chassis-----could be the reason the chassis is "for sale"----and the owner doesn't even know why the chassis got eratic!
Last edited by 40ford; 11/22/12 02:05 AM.
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Re: Something DIFFERENT........lets talk DRAGSTERS.
[Re: sc301v]
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11/23/12 09:10 PM
11/23/12 09:10 PM
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julian2007
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Mine is a 7.80, 572 indy headed combo on alcohol.
You got issues somewhere....Mine is a 4 link at 1950 lbs....with a 572 indy 440-1 325 cnc goes 4.60s and 7.30s
If thats the case you have the baddest 572-1 motor on the planet, most people have to spray 200 to do that with that motor.
you do realize that 1950 lbs going 4.60 is over 1000 hp do you not?
Now WES,I have been racing for the better part of 20 years. I have had back half cars,chassis cars,a chassis truck,and two dragsters and after having my 4-link spitzer I would not race a door car if you gave it to me.
They are easy on parts,easy to make bad fast,cheep to buy,easy to work on,for some reason people are scared of them and end up doing something stupid trying to beat them.
mine weighs 1790 makes a little over 1000 hp and has been as fast as 4.57 in very good air and very good track conditions.
if you are serious I know where you can buy a buck 730 bbc for a good deal you could run top dragster with little or no spray.
God made cold beer,good friends,hot ladies and race cars don't spit in his face by pi$$ing and moaning about how life sucks!!!
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Re: Something DIFFERENT........lets talk DRAGSTERS.
[Re: julian2007]
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11/23/12 09:32 PM
11/23/12 09:32 PM
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communist bloc of new jersey
jamesc
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If thats the case you have the baddest 572-1 motor on the planet, most people have to spray 200 to do that with that motor.
only if the engine doesn't run right
not to get into a peeing contest but most of the chrysler powered dragsters i've seen don't run as fast as they should
the -1 540 megablock i built for a friend went 7.50 178 right out of the trailer with no real tuning. this was with a .660 lift roller, the smaller injectorator on alky and spinning the tires. i know it was lighter than a suspended car but not by a whole lot. with proper tuning, the bigger injectorator, the right cam and hooking properly that car should've dipped into the 30s.
one of the local guys has a miller slip tube with a -1 572 aluminum indy block, alky toilet. he struggled with it to run 7.80-90. pulled the engine apart, found problems and now i believe he's been in the 30s which is more representative of what that combination should run
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Re: Something DIFFERENT........lets talk DRAGSTERS.
[Re: jamesc]
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11/24/12 10:39 AM
11/24/12 10:39 AM
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julian2007
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If thats the case you have the baddest 572-1 motor on the planet, most people have to spray 200 to do that with that motor.
only if the engine doesn't run right
not to get into a peeing contest but most of the chrysler powered dragsters i've seen don't run as fast as they should
the -1 540 megablock i built for a friend went 7.50 178 right out of the trailer with no real tuning. this was with a .660 lift roller, the smaller injectorator on alky and spinning the tires. i know it was lighter than a suspended car but not by a whole lot. with proper tuning, the bigger injectorator, the right cam and hooking properly that car should've dipped into the 30s.
one of the local guys has a miller slip tube with a -1 572 aluminum indy block, alky toilet. he struggled with it to run 7.80-90. pulled the engine apart, found problems and now i believe he's been in the 30s which is more representative of what that combination should run
you are not compairing apples to apples he said his car was over 1900
you local guys car aluminum block slip tube car is more than likely less than 1700 unless the driver is grilla monsoon.
my 235 suspended spitzer aluminum block combo with a wing, 110 inch role out 16 inch tires,race pack,containment trays,diaper and a dry sump system only weighs 1780 with my 215 lb fat a$$ in it.
200 lbs is huge when you weigh less than 2000 to begin with.
add enough weight to make your buddies car 1900 and see how fast it is.
Last edited by julian2007; 11/24/12 10:41 AM.
God made cold beer,good friends,hot ladies and race cars don't spit in his face by pi$$ing and moaning about how life sucks!!!
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Re: Something DIFFERENT........lets talk DRAGSTERS.
[Re: julian2007]
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11/24/12 12:56 PM
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jamesc
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you are not compairing apples to apples he said his car was over 1900
you local guys car aluminum block slip tube car is more than likely less than 1700 unless the driver is grilla monsoon.
i realize that it's not a direct comparison i wasn't inferring it was and it wasn't meant to be
my point is that an alky -1 572 in a hardtail shouldn't be running 7.80s, nor should it need 200 worth of spray to run 7.30s at 1950. not to mention there are factors other than only HP and weight that impact performance. i'm not claiming that it will run 7.30s at 1950 just that it doesn't sound impossible. i mean 572 isn't exactly a small block and the -1 heads can be made to work pretty well.
i just asked mike what his car weighs and he said 1800# (1796 actually) with him in it which sounds heavy but that is what he told me
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Re: Something DIFFERENT........lets talk DRAGSTERS.
[Re: jamesc]
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11/24/12 02:06 PM
11/24/12 02:06 PM
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julian2007
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mine is 1790 with a 4-link, 235 inches 16 inch wheels,a wing,race pack,containment trays,a diaper and no carbon fiber it has been weighed on scales and at several tracks 1790 LBS @ 4.60 = 1000 real hp my best machine built 588 b1 mc runs just that on alky. with me in the car 215 lbs 4.60 flat, with my buddy in the car 170 lbs 4.57 we have done it time and time again.
weight makes all the difference
my point is 572 with -1 heads 4.80 is dead on the money at 1900 lbs and 16 inch wheels
now if the race weight is 1700 with 15 inch wheels that is a different story.
Last edited by julian2007; 11/24/12 02:10 PM.
God made cold beer,good friends,hot ladies and race cars don't spit in his face by pi$$ing and moaning about how life sucks!!!
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Re: Something DIFFERENT........lets talk DRAGSTERS.
[Re: julian2007]
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11/24/12 03:07 PM
11/24/12 03:07 PM
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Working on my Fun Car as fast as I can! Raced a door car for over 20 years--Just had to do something different, Fun, and easier to work on! 200 incher Joined the Southern Slingshots club and plan on maybe 6 races per year and some very fun TT nights!
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