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BES Apache flows!
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11/14/12 10:18 PM
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Dayum! I wonder if these have any velocity? 380 at .550 lift?
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Re: BES Apache flows!
[Re: 72Swinger]
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11/14/12 10:38 PM
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All I can say is Unreal! With 390 cfm of flow, plus mid lift numbers, would anyone care to guess if they would make 900 hp in a full race stroker motor? 426 cubes, and 9000 rpm! Can I stretch a pair to fit my 528?  At .400 lift, they flow 55 cfm more than my ported 440-1 heads!
Last edited by gregsdart; 11/14/12 10:42 PM.
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Re: BES Apache flows!
[Re: mshred]
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11/14/12 11:41 PM
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Im gonna see about scoring a 392....
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Re: BES Apache flows!
[Re: 72Swinger]
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11/15/12 08:50 AM
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Do you have any numbers before porting???
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Re: BES Apache flows!
[Re: gregsdart]
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11/15/12 10:31 AM
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Heads are cheap
http://www.mopar.com/part/RL086555AA?s=335847&i=1979575&b=dodge
Short block
http://www.mopar.com/part/RL086564AB?s=335847&i=1979588&b=dodge
I dont know why anyone would even bother with an LA based SB or even a big block when these will put down numbers like that.
Maybe because some conventional LA based small blocks can make 1000+ N/A with a cast intake and sinlge 4.
.....and some conventional big block heads go to 1250+, N/A.
Those are some nice heads BES does, but lets elevate them to "top-o-the-heap" status. They obviously make a real nice street and mid level race deal.
Very true, but $ for $, I would think those heads and a good race shortblock would come in cheaper than either.
 Not to mention the factory blocks themselves are stronger then any factory LA or B/RB block
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Re: BES Apache flows!
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11/15/12 11:14 AM
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Heads are cheap
http://www.mopar.com/part/RL086555AA?s=335847&i=1979575&b=dodge
Short block
http://www.mopar.com/part/RL086564AB?s=335847&i=1979588&b=dodge
I dont know why anyone would even bother with an LA based SB or even a big block when these will put down numbers like that.
Maybe because some conventional LA based small blocks can make 1000+ N/A with a cast intake and sinlge 4.
.....and some conventional big block heads go to 1250+, N/A.
Those are some nice heads BES does, but lets elevate them to "top-o-the-heap" status. They obviously make a real nice street and mid level race deal.
Very true, but $ for $, I would think those heads and a good race shortblock would come in cheaper than either.
Until you realize you need a Complete and running motor with accessories, etc. The ticket adds up very quick. Everyone likes to compare short block and head prices. I wish I could run just a short block and heads it would all be cheap!! It's all the extras that Nickle and Dime you to death.
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Re: BES Apache flows!
[Re: 340RICK]
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11/15/12 08:02 PM
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I would never be one to knock the W stuff,B1 stuff or a 9900 rpm 431 Hemi but all that stuff is pretty freakin exotic compared to some cnc'd Apaches. Im so sick of hearing how awesome the LS engine is and it was very encouraging to find these flow #'s out of a factory Mopar head.
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Re: BES Apache flows!
[Re: 72Swinger]
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11/15/12 09:52 PM
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there is a bunch of LS heads that claim to go over 400 so I'm not really to impressed by a piece of paper that says a hemi head flowing worse than a LS head
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Re: BES Apache flows!
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11/15/12 09:56 PM
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Will the Apache heads fit the early 5.7 block?
Physically yes they bolt on but need a small notch for intake valve. Matt
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