Re: /6 1barrel to 2 barrel or just v8 it and forget it
[Re: 76dodgeboy]
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11/13/12 11:38 PM
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I have an intake and kickdown if you decide to go with a 2bbl
and if you buy his two barrel ill toss you a little cash for youe one barrel setup
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Re: /6 1barrel to 2 barrel or just v8 it and forget it
[Re: Winchester 73]
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11/13/12 11:57 PM
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I have an intake and kickdown if you decide to go with a 2bbl
and if you buy his two barrel ill toss you a little cash for youe one barrel setup
i had a long bed dodge with a 3 speed stick electric fan recurved dist and not much else and it woild smoke really wide tires!
is yours a 727?if so its eating lots of power. got smog pump? got cat vonv? 80s had smaller hydr cams iirc
the fun thing about slants is that you feel evrything you touch.2bbl swap nets about 10% power improvement!ever put a junkyard intake on a smallblock and get a 40 horsepower improvement?a slant six will teach you discipline with not throwing power in the trash.with a slant six a person learns what a hundred hp really is and what can be done with it.
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Re: /6 1barrel to 2 barrel or just v8 it and forget it
[Re: Winchester 73]
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11/14/12 09:29 AM
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the fun thing about slants is that you feel evrything you touch.2bbl swap nets about 10% power improvement!ever put a junkyard intake on a smallblock and get a 40 horsepower improvement?a slant six will teach you discipline with not throwing power in the trash.with a slant six a person learns what a hundred hp really is and what can be done with it.
Hahahahahaha. That might mean a bit more if we weren't dealing with cars that start with 3000lb curb weights...
But i get what you mean.
My 70 Challenger was born with and retains it original 225/3speed. I want to daily drive it ASAP, but the budget keeps getting in the way. Even the stingiest ov welfare V8 swaps (and i have ALL the parts) is going to end up costing me. I bought the car because it was a slant-six car... but the more desperate i get the more i'm starting to wish it was even a 318 car. Too much to do.
I've swatted around the idea ov driving the 225 for now... but the power... even with the above mods... is going to get old in about 7 minutes. To really wake it up is going to cost more than just dropping my V8 in there... and its still gonna sound like an outboard motor on an [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] canoe.
I keep clicking on all these slant six threads hoping for some easy solution or 'demon tweak' to make it viable... but you guys just aren't helping! Hahahahaha
The fact my brother went ALL-OUT on his 69 Valiant's 225 (ported head, big solid, header, exhaust elect ign, big carb, 4bbl intake, balance/blueprinted, serious compression, blah blah) and still ended up with a slow car that got horrible mileage doesn't help. Fun car. Really fun. Sounded neat (and i wont admit that to too many people), very well tuned and driven... but certainly not worth the money. Clifford has it right... 6 CAN equal 8. What he doesn't tell you is that it equals a 225cid V8.... which... would still be slow.
I'll still keep clicking on these threads... maybe someone will convince me yet to keep the 6...
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Re: /6 1barrel to 2 barrel or just v8 it and forget it
[Re: Pale_Roader]
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11/14/12 11:31 AM
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I have an 81 Cordoba, teetering on whether to sell it or mess with it some. 1 barrel slanty, not really peppy and I believe the carb's the issue. Runs fine, but has hot start issues also
"some" have said the Carter is inferior to the Holley 1 barrel. Any insight on that?
Mine does the ~starts easy, but when it's hot, loads up bad and you have to "clean" it out when restarting~ issue.
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Re: /6 1barrel to 2 barrel or just v8 it and forget it
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11/14/12 12:15 PM
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Sounds like heat soak. For what it's worth, I'd take a carter over a holley any day of the week, but that's a matter of opinion. What you describe sounds like heat soak. This can be really bad on a slant six because the exhaust manifold is physically bolted to the intake. so when you shut down, obviously the intake gets scalding, and so does the carb. my '81 was a factory one bbl, and it had a nice heat shield that went between the carb and covered quite a bit of the intake, and hence blocked heat from the exhaust manifold. You might want to look for something like that. From another point of view, my car had horrendous starting issues, but we traced it back to a vapor recovery issue and a problem with the fuel tank rollover valve. Also, I highly suggest wrapping the fuel line to keep excessive heat out of that. Last, that's a lot of car for a 225, it's never going to get out of its own way. Now, you could do something fun, like make a carb box and put a turbo on... boosted stock 225s can make torque that rival diesels (still don't get a lot of HP though with stock cam and head). but with 400 ft lbs, you'll still move out. To me, the 225 had great low range torque, like right off idle. but absolutely no throttle response. So, while they do fine around town, or passing someone on the highway without having to kick down, the torque is all you have. if you push the pedal to the floor, it really has nothing more to give. that's just a function of the (relatively) small cubes, the gearing, the weight, and so on. If you want it to sound faster, flip the lid.
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Re: /6 1barrel to 2 barrel or just v8 it and forget it
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11/14/12 03:32 PM
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The exhaust note is one of those acquired tastes, to be sure. I have a /6 Volare Duster I used to tool around my property with. Muffler delete option. My sister said it sounded like an "angry warthog."
On the other hand, the intake sound can be quite nice, and it was much louder on my 4bbl setup than the exhaust. that part sounded V8'ish. It was loud enough to attract attention and the occasional would-be-racer.
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Re: /6 1barrel to 2 barrel or just v8 it and forget it
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11/14/12 05:16 PM
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why modify the /6 six and still have to listen to that awful 6 cylinder exhaust note...YUCK!
I dunno what you are talking about...My slant was always purring like a kitten and had a nasty bite
My Swinger with Dutra Duals sounds like a WWII fighter plane on the highway. LOVE it!
If I wanna hear another V-8, I can listen to just about any pickup truck in Texas.
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Re: /6 1barrel to 2 barrel or just v8 it and forget it
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11/14/12 06:53 PM
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Thanks for all the replies guys, I think after all I've read and looked at it just is not worth it to me to fool with the /6. Based on cost and results I believe I'd be better off just putting a v8 in and forget it. So the hunt begins for the right donor vehicle with a 5.2/5.9 magnum and a518. I really think I'll be money ahead and much happier with the end results. Thanks again.
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Re: /6 1barrel to 2 barrel or just v8 it and forget it
[Re: 76dodgeboy]
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11/14/12 06:57 PM
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I'm kind of a slant fan, but for a truck, I'd probably swap a '94-01 magnum 318 in there with a 600 cfm carb and never look back.....you'll probably get as good of mileage at highway speeds, and more than double your HP (my duster's slant was rated at 101HP net in 1976)
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Re: /6 1barrel to 2 barrel or just v8 it and forget it
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11/14/12 09:05 PM
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Thanks for all the replies guys, I think after all I've read and look at it just is not worth it to me to fool with the /6. Based on cost and results I believe I'd be better off just putting a v8 in and forget it. So the hunt begins for the right donor vehicle with a 5.2/5.9 magnum and a518. I really think I'll be money ahead and much happier with the end results. Thanks again.
You won't regret it. I put a 5.2 magnum into my jeep instead of wasting more money on the carbed 4.2 inline 6 it had. I did carb and distributor and while it ran better, it was still a bagged out POS. You can use any year of 5.2/5.9 engine, but you want 92-95 wiring, computer and sensors if you want to keep the EFI and 95 or earlier transmission. Mine's a 99 5.2 running on 95 electronics.
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