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Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1317816
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Going off my Mirada's numbers, due to it being a kissing cousin, I've seen a measured 24mpg average HWY. I'm measuring the actual mile distance, haven't had a working speedometer in months and a working odometer since 2010.

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323ci SB (original 318 with work)
Shift-kitted A904
Hooker B-body headers
2.94 SG AHB Diplomat rearend
235/70R15 front, 255/70R15 rear tires

Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1317817
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I drove an 80 Diplomat every day in 96-98. It was a stock 318 with lockup converter and high gears-2.45 I think. Only mods were electronic ignition and dual exhaust with glass packs. It got 27mpg Canadian (22 1/2 US) on the highway in 90 degree heat with the A/C blasting. Great car. Shoulda kept it.
Then I got a 86 5th Ave with same driveline but lean burn still functioning. It would get 25mpg Canadian (20 1/2 US) on the highway. The low first gear gave them enough power to pull out without feeling sluggish. Great cars. Both were super reliable.

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Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: patrick] #1317818
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What carb did you run Patrick

Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1317819
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I posted asking what headers etc will fit a 5th ave. I wanna know what you guys are pulling down for mileage in yours and what your combo is. Also what size tanks do they have? Mine might need a carb swap and leanburn delete already .




The first summer I had my 82 Fifth, Stone Stock- between 15-18mpg city, and 18-22 mpg highway. Really depended on how hard I pressed the 'GO' pedal...

Today-
318--Magnum Heads- Hooker Headers- Full 2 1/2" Dual Exhaust system connected to headers and with Flowmaster Mufflers (no Cats)- Crosswinds Intake- Carter AVS carb- Jegs Cam- HEI Ignition (leanburn delete, emissions delete)- recurved distributor- A/C Delete- High flow Water Pump- 3-core replacement radiator- Aux Oil and Transmission Coolers- B & M shift-kitted trans- 3.55 Sure-Grip 8 1/4 rear- 205's sized tires.
Makes TONS of power down low, and runs all day long at 75-80mpg on the highway with zero issues-(just higher RPMS)...and will beat most modern cars hands down. And fuel milage-

10-12 mpg city, 12-15 highway.
Again- depends on the 'GO' pedal and how hard I stomp it.
I also need to run Plus gasoline (89 octane here) because I get some pinging with 87 (regular) and 93 burns tooooooo fast...as in...I like to push that pedal too much when I'm running premium. The Magnum heads up the CR from the dismal 8.5- something to more like 9-something.

Keep in mind that the 5th is basically about as aerodynamic as a Cinder Block, has a large V8 and is choked with more emissions equipment that just about anything I have ever worked on. You are LUCKY to get the kind of milage I got when she was stone stock.

Any way you slice it- a 5th ave is NEVER a good fuel economy car. What it is- The nicest riding Luxury-type car I've driven in quite some time. And Also- About the biggest SLEEPER car I can think of.
No one expects the Grandpa-mobile to eat their lunch in a drag race. That's what makes it fun!

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Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: chargincharles] #1317820
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COnsidering I don't like new cars or can't afford the ones that appeal to me. 20mpg is fuel efficient to me. If scratch can get upper teens to 20mpg in an 80s truck I should be able to get low 20s no problem

Has anyone used the E3 spark plugs Do they really do what they say or are they just an overpriced gimmick

Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1317821
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What carb did you run Patrick




the electric choke 600 eddie AFB, IIRC I had it jetted down 3 steps on the primary and 2 steps on the secondary to lean it out to ~14:1 on cruise and 12:1 on WOT


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Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: patrick] #1317822
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21-23 highway...Averaged over 17 all the time with a 318 and lean burn removed in favor of an orange box ignition system and distributor.


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Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: Dragula] #1317823
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Lean burn Delete is quick approaching. Runs a little rough and the idle screw isn't long enough to use so the fast idle screw is dual purpose. Was thinking orange box as my other 5th we used orange.

Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1317824
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I get around 22 on the highway 15 in town. No one is buying it so I am building a superduper MPG 318 EFI magnum motor for it, hoping for 30 MPG hwy.


I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!



Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: HotRodDave] #1317825
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Where was it listed for sale?
What mpg did you average. Im going to have a hard time trying Not to do 70

Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1317826
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Moparts and Craigslist. It is a super clean 86 survivor


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Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: HotRodDave] #1317827
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I get around 22 on the highway 15 in town. No one is buying it so I am building a superduper MPG 318 EFI magnum motor for it, hoping for 30 MPG hwy.




sweet. be sure to document the build for us to watch vicariously....


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Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1317828
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Where was it listed for sale?
What mpg did you average. Im going to have a hard time trying Not to do 70




my 5ths stock got ~2mpg better at 75 compared to 65....gearing is almost too tall....


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Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: patrick] #1317829
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I might be getting around 21 driving at 55-65. I reset the odometer before actually Knowing what the mileage was but I think I remembered what it was. We'll see this week. put over 200 miles on today and is just under half tank. I was pretty sure it was at 240 on trip odometer and took 11 gallons to fill But not 100% it was at 240. Those is also with rough idle do to needing Lean burn delete
Talked to an exhaust guy and he recommended 2.5 single for the car so when the cash is available and I have the headers exhaust shop I will go

Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1317830
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if you don't have a shop that mandrel bends or you can't weld your own up from pre-bent mandrel bent section, personally, I'd just go with this setup from summit

lots of guys on dippy.org have used it. you just have to move your gas tank over 1 rib...


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Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: patrick] #1317831
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I would if it wasn't 2.5". As the exhaust guy stated 3" is a bit much for a stock 318 and running dual 2.5" is more flow than single 3". He said it would create less backpressure with just a single 3". Having him build the 2.5" single is about the same price as that kit with an H-pipe.

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This one would pull in the low 20's on the highway with the 2 barrel and 2:40 gears and the lean burn changed out and dual exhaust.

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I haven't checked my gr ratio yet but if its 3.23s I'll be looking for something in the 2.xx. I haven't gassed up or driven it since Monday but Im hoping its getting high teens low 20 bit driving around at 60 sucks

Re: What fuel Mileage do you get with your 5th Ave? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1317834
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Mine is so quiet and smooth I often find myself cruising much lower than the speed limit, guess I am getting old as I do really enjoy driving this thing (Insert Old man walking with a cane smiley here!)


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Mine is so quiet and smooth I often find myself cruising much lower than the speed limit, guess I am getting old as I do really enjoy driving this thing (Insert Old man walking with a cane smiley here!)



I like driving it. I had a gold one just like yours. If you'd have been closer and I saw it Id have jumped on yours but I only gave $850 for this obey with a new battery and tires with about 300-500 miles object them and a full tank if gas. Interior needs some tlc before may but Mainly the headliner. Needs a grill and center piece between tail lights and I hope to get it painted.
Just ordered the headers and some air shocks to bring the back up a little and to fit 215s a little better when they go on

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