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Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? #13152
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An 8-71 can easily add 200 hp to any engine you've got while maintaining driveability. But it also means a big tacky hole in the hood. Is it time for blowers to come back or not? Let's see your blown cars! And--more importantly--let's hear how fast they are.

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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: Freiburger] #13153
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i think that for most street bound cars , the centrifugal SC's will continue to remain the norm.


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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: AlexP] #13154
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In the 70's I loved seeing 6-71 fed cars. Now you are correct that the gaping hole is an eyesore. Funny how 30 years and $5,000 cars now worth $2million changes your perspective.

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I'd never want one of those things peeking out of my hood, not cause I think it looks strange, but because I would not want the attention from John Q. Lawman.

Meanwhile, I notice that on the attachment the carbs sat on top of the blower. With the centerfugal (sp?) ones, I've seen a box that seems to blow into the top of the carb. I understand why from a physics standpoint. Has anyone made a super-low-rise roots style blower?


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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: calmopar] #13156
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Umm, I dunno.. You tell me what ya think..

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Back in April I ran 12.99 @ 99. I got it tuned in ALOT better now. Had it on a chassis dyno, but the #'s and sheets didn't do any "justice" 'specially since they didn't coincide. It said that I made 323 at the rear tires. 440 .030 over, BDS 8-71 dual Holley 830's. Never had a problem with the "Lawman". A couple actually told me I did a pretty good job with building it.

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I think they're a bit too much of the 'in your face' look. (Pun intended). I much prefer the sleeper or 'Q ship' look.

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Tacky now. Go turbo or centrifical under hood.

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Has anyone made a super-low-rise roots style blower?




B&M/Holley has a single 4 bbl. 144 cc roots blower that fits under a lot of hoods.

Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: Freiburger] #13162
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I like them on the 30's, 40's and 50's hot rods more than a 60's ride. Just my personal preference though.

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They're definately COOL.I don't have a pic,but, a friends 6-71 fed 440 puts his 3900lb car down the strip at 11.10@122.It makes for some REAL EYE CANDY at the local cruise nights.It's a little less complicated than a turbo set up but it probably wouldn't sell as many copies than a big or Twin turbo set-up.What's the concept and intension for the car in Question???
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For a street rod, they look good. I prefer to keep everything under the hood. Plus, I hate chromed-out engine compartments.

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Nothing gives away your intentions better than seeing a big ol' blower sticking through your hood. I like 'em.
Let some blinged out ricer pull up next to you at a stop light and he'll spot his shorts if you blip the throttle.


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I'm passively looking for an 8-71 style Roots for my B-motor powered jet boat. A centrifugal just wouldn't look right.

Underhood of a stealth 69 B-body is another story. Got a 69 Sport Satellite w/factory a/c that NEEDS a centrifugal set-up.

In general, the ProStreet big blower thing is so overkill and overdone it's had it's day. Sorry you die hards, I still like it, but it seems that more practical street cars are the norm again for a good reason.

I still say if you're gonna run a Roots tyle blower it's gotta have the chassis to back it up too.


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Meanwhile, I notice that on the attachment the carbs sat on top of the blower.




I absolutely agree those 671's with carbs are a real eye sores. I'm gonna throw this double teflon striped 871 with Enderle Bird injector spaced up 4 inches for fresh air in the dumpster first thing tomorrow morning.... I have no idea what made me think this would be neat looking sticking out of the hood on a 575 inch hemi. Glad you guys learned me good. Mark ME LEARNED

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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: Freiburger] #13170
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It all comes down to how much attention do you want. You can easily attain the same hp levels with turbos or NOS, and keep it under the hood. Personally, over the years I have seen so many blown/carbed street cars, they all pretty much look the same. I still like them and flat love the loping idle. But most guys I've met and tried to talk to with a big huffer will barely give you the time of day and have an air of superiority and arrogance about them. I love seeing a guy like that get spanked by a flat hood.

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definitely cool

but I don't like the hood hole. No hood looks better, and bonus points if your engine compartment looks something like Duster Dave's


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i like blown cars. i really like the ones with injection on them, i think those look wicked. specaily when its on a big engine in an a-body

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I like them on some things. I know it's a Chevy, but it's a super cool car. 1948 all steel coupe with a big al's toybox blown 350. Hood is off all together. Switch the car to a 40's style Plymouth or Dodge and you have a winning combination.

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I think they are cool, but I like the low blowers better for a street car. DD's car is above and beyond trends and fashion. A functional piece of automotive art is always

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Well, I think that it's pretty well accepted that the majority of the fastest street cars driving around these days are nitrous fed stroked big blocks made to run 8's or 9's through a single 4 barrel on pump gas. Back in the 80's things were a bit different, pro-Street was king, blown cars were the cars everyone thought were the "thing" to have.

As far as building one today? We'll I love Blown cars but only when the car has matching rear tires. For looks blown cars just look "right" being more balanced looking front to rear, with fat rear tires and a blower. But I don't like the looks of a huffer through the hood and thin rear tires, it just doesn't look as serious or well balanced appearance wise (i.e. the appearance of having way more power than you can hook).

As far as Pro-Chargers and Turbo's? They make great power and are very cost effective, efficient, etc. they make great sense (but sense is not what I consider allot when dreaming up a bad boy sreet car). I've just never liked the way centrifical blowers and turbo chargers looked with all the extra plumbing under the hoods. I'd rather see an all out roots blown/tubbed car, or step back down to a stroker BB running an "All Motor" setup.


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they are pretty to look at,but the car better haul booty,Ive seen so many times over the years guys at the track running mid 12s and even funnier some of them were pretty cocky too.theres a guy I saw at the local track here with a 67 dart convertible,tubbed,big sounding cam,4 speed,and although not blown,I had to go over and see what the crowd was about...A hemi,dominator carb lots of big dollar stuff.the guy was running 115-116 and was just lovin all the attention

back to the blown subject theres guys here that got some sweet blown cars and Im sure they run good as they look I just wouldnt want to keep it nice and shiney,too much work

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I think Dick Landy-modified Holley 144 blowers are cool. It'll need a hood scoop, but nothing too large:





They make big and small block versions.

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They're still cool, A friend of mine built a 671 blown 440 in a Challenger and after fabbing an intake to run sidedraft webers it fit under the stock rallye Challenger hood too.

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they are not "coming back" because they never left!! they are the coolest and the most motorhead part you could ever put on a car, they do not garner alot of attention from jonny law either! they make a wicked insne amount of power that has to be experieced first hand, the thrill of driving a pressurized car in unreal,. tire boiling low end smoke shows are the norm as well and slig shot blasts as the boost moves the car like a titan rocket! any one who doesnt like them never had one and they ARE what hot rooding is all about I myself am so sick of "perfect resto" cars, they are made by some one else in a factory all the same and available to anyone who wantted to buy one are they cool,? yes, do i own some? yes do i apperciate them? yes! but i have more fun with my hot rod cars than any other restored car i ever had( except my hemi cuda convert, that car was fun, only because i drove it!)here are 2 shots of 2 cars i have both blown big blocks both street cars, the black car has been on the street for over 10 years with some heavy duty useage,(undisputed king of the concrete jungle i might ad!) no problem other than normal maintence and the 2nd car speeks for it self, i have many high compression big cammed, etc etc built motors, but nothing is even comparable to a roots blown big inch motor, they rule!!!! wimps go home!!!!

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black cars motor, oh yeah 10.90s with out pushin it too hard and all steel except trunk lid, blown baby!!!

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Maybe I'm old fashioned but there's nothing cooler than a Roots IMO - except for some old mechanical fuel injected Hillborn set-up (love the stacks!!!). Turbos and Paxtons are cool, but Roots are cooler.


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GTX+blown HEMI+fast fun! and not gettin beat by any "flat hoods"! i built them both and I know how they work

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i would love to see if the owner would ever take that thing out in the rain.


in that respect the flathooded FI cars have them beat. i myself could never build a fairweather only car.


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If you're going to cut your hood and display the S/C, what's the point of installing a mild setup? The problem then being a full blown Roots does not make for a streetable car. Can you drive it in even a mild rain shower? An under hood setup, like a centrifigual s/c, represents a compromise between a fire-breathing Roots and stock street car.

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I live in Oregon rains all the time!!!! and that was my everyday car for many years with and without a blower,got caught at an indoor car show in november and it snowed the evening we had to move the cars and it snowed and snowed, I drove my blown 55 home 28 miles while many other chose to stay over night in the building next door, fair weather I dont think so! I cant stand that word"flat" it just isnt right!!!!!

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i would love to see if the owner would ever take that thing out in the rain.


in that respect the flathooded FI cars have them beat. i myself could never build a fairweather only car.




Just what exactly makes ya think that you can`t drive a car with a hole in the hood in the rain...I`ve had mine in the rain more times than I care to count....rain might bother the "trailer queens"..but for those of us that really drive blown cars (and YES i DO drive mine plenty) rain is just some spots at the end of the day that windex and a towel will take care of


And DF...not that i`m prejudiced or anything..but I think ya know where my vote goes


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At a local Friday night cruise-in in Glen Burnie, MD no less than FIVE roots-blown cars showed up. And this is an informal cruise-in to an ice-cream stand - not club sponsored. There was a blown Hemi Pro-Street '67 Barracuda fastback that I heard took best-in-show in Ocean City, MD this Spring, a blown Cleveland-powered '68 Torino, at least one blown street rod...as well as a lot of other great iron. I also know a guy with that 144 blower under a flat '84 Regal hood. Runs mid 11s!

Not everyone can afford blowers, but if you can, go for it!

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well your car is one of the few drivers and one of the first instances i have heard of a roots blown car being drive in the rain.

the comment was in respect to this car :



hes got two edelbrock pro-flows on there and i would think the car has never been in a real downpour.


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I think they are cool if you like 'em on your car & uncool if you dont.

Stupid? - hardly - stupid is people who would tell folks what they should be doing with their cars uninvited...



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well you have a point there those are designed for airflow not really waterprotection, but i guess when you have what most people spend on a house wrapped up in ONE of your cars you dont drive it everyday, guess your right not really and everyday car. but both cars are extremely dependable, stay cool, always start and get better milage than any high compression motored car i ever had and they are very powerful. I drove that GTX from Phoenix Arizona to Riverside California, see that word "Drove" 75=80mph most of the way in 95 degree weather and it never got over 200 degrees and get this 17 mpg!!! and it never missed a beat.but rest assured that my new cadillac is rain proof so i am safe! a street car with a blown hemi in it how stupid!!whoed want that!!!

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Anyways, I've been stuck in a 20 minute downpour with mine. I wasn't too worried about the hood blower set up. I was just [censored] that my wipers quit workin. I drove 44 miles one way to a car show and got 7 1/2 miles a gallon with 4.56's. And ,I, like DD, no Chrome except the timing chain cover and alternator, It's all stainless or polished Aluminum.. So the saying "If it don't go, chrome it" doesn't apply. I'm hoping that before the end of the year this year or first thing next spring to see 10.90's. I'd say get yourself a 3" cutting disc on a die grinder and start cutting small. BUT make sure it's a hood a purist would really, really want..



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Chrome or polish is not me at all. I hope you noticed in my blown-Hemi shot that the blower is satin, and I hope to leak a bunch of race gas down the side for that cool patina.

And, sin of all sins, the Hemi will be black.

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well you have a point there those are designed for airflow not really waterprotection, but i guess when you have what most people spend on a house wrapped up in ONE of your cars you dont drive it everyday, guess your right not really and everyday car. but both cars are extremely dependable, stay cool, always start and get better milage than any high compression motored car i ever had and they are very powerful. I drove that GTX from Phoenix Arizona to Riverside California, see that word "Drove" 75=80mph most of the way in 95 degree weather and it never got over 200 degrees and get this 17 mpg!!! and it never missed a beat.but rest assured that my new cadillac is rain proof so i am safe! a street car with a blown hemi in it how stupid!!whoed want that!!!




oh theres no denying that a blown hemi would make just about anyone happy but there are some that like to make huge power and have it idle all day in trafic inconspiously.


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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: Freiburger] #13197
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They're cool, but like some others have said, I don't care for a bunch of polish and chrome. Leave it as-cast.

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An 8-71 can easily add 200 hp to any engine you've got while maintaining driveability. But it also means a big tacky hole in the hood. Is it time for blowers to come back or not? Let's see your blown cars! And--more importantly--let's hear how fast they are.

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Europe calling.... The Netherlands to be precise...

"in-your-face"-blowers are cool...
I've got a 8-71 Kuhl-Blower on the shelf, next to a 4.15" crank waiting for me to get my butt into gear to start progress on my 440. I also have a Hilborn-injection scoop for it when I might decide to go that route.

Then comes the moment to decide where put it in.
I've got 3 candidates for it;
-'64 Chrysler NewYorker Salon
-'67 Dodge Charger
-'71 Dodge Dart

The '71 Dart is already 'dragrace-ready' with a fiberglass hood and all, and the blower would be "natural" in there. And I think it would look pretty cool in the '67 Charger. But ... as the '64 NewYorker will be my daily driver pretty soon, I'm really trying to find good reasons why I shouldn't drop it in it's engine bay....




I only know of one more "driven" blown Mopar here, it's a very green Challenger. It used to have "Show&Shine"-setup on it, but I believe the owner has made the blower functional by now.

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I think they are cool if they can back it up. Nothing makes me laugh harder than for a blower car to show up at the track and proceed to run 13's...... Heck 318's can lay down 13's. LOL

The look of them screams "power", but if they don't ever get used for what they were made for, what's the point in having one?

Cool if they are making your car go fast AND you are using it!

Un-cool if they are just sitting there for the "look" and only powers your ride on & off the trailer because you are afraid you might hurt something or be embarassed at the track.


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DF--you gotta lose the shiny valve covers, too!

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...In general, the ProStreet big blower thing is so overkill and overdone it's had it's day...




Yep.

Yawn...

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I think they are cool. I like the flat hood look too, but there is definatly room for blower cars with big honken muscle power plants oozing from out of the hood.

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Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid?




I dunno...you tell me...


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There was a blown "Hemi" 67 Ford Mustang fastback that showed up at our Hogs & Hemis show this weekend that ran the quarter in 7.52, and is STREET DRIVEN! Overdriven roots blower with Enderle bug catcher, now that was COOL!


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I love blowers! Unfortunately the street cars with blowers that show up at the track can't seem to get out of the 12 sec. bracket. I guess if something looks like a racecar I expect it to run like one. I would love to have one to play with and see If I could do it better.

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I think they are cool if they can back it up. Nothing makes me laugh harder than for a blower car to show up at the track and proceed to run 13's...... Heck 318's can lay down 13's. LOL






i agree, but still, they are very cool to look at. i grew up in the pro-street days as a young kid not quite old enough to drive, so stuff like that made a big impression on me. and lets face it, what the coolest roots blown motor? top fuel hemis of course



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My vote is for the big honken blower. Mine is in progress now. Chassis is being built & the motor is a 528 Hemi, with an 871 & BDS fuel injection. 955hp on pump gas & can change the pulley & add some race gas & tweak the fule map to hit the 1000hp mark. Hope to be in the mid to low 9's when it's done, so just call me "stupid". Oh yeah, little tires out back too 33-19.50's


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Amen to that! Nothing is more cool than a well done execution of either form of forced induction. It's true that turbo's are more efficient but effiency isn't alway's the ultimate goal.
Hemi's were born to be blown.


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If done right, then they can look pretty cool. But I have seen some hack jobs in my day. Plus, I'm not a fan of someone cutting the hood on a highly desired Mopar. Use a 318 or slant 6 car. Like I saw at a show last month, a stock 440 six pack 70 challenger. The owner was a guy who thought big blower were cool, pulled the sick pack and threw on a blower and cut the stock hood. It almost made me loose it on sight.

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I'd never want one of those things peeking out of my hood, not cause I think it looks strange, but because I would not want the attention from John Q. Lawman.





One of the street machines in our town is a red Camaro with a blower and no hood. I'm told it is owned by one of the local constabulary. I guess he tickets himself...

Roots blowers are cool as long as you don't chrome the casing. I like a matte gray finish, like on the old Weinands.


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Like someone here already said, they look cool on cars that USE them.
Gotta be big tire, big inch, little bitty e.t.
If it looks fast it had better be fast.


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" HEMI's Are Born to be Blown", I think that sums it up!
This combo will draw a crowd at an all Chevy show!!


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I dig that blown black '55.

I don't think the "driving in the rain" argument really holds water with this discussion. (HAH!). I've driven my '68 R/T in the rain plenty of times, and the first thing that comes to mind is "stupid". Sure, it's maybe making 430 hp at the motor, but it's damn near undriveable on wet pavement. Do you think a blower car is gonna be any better?

Hell, half the people here don't drive their naturally aspirated cars in the rain!


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Roots blowers look AWESOME!

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Roots blowers are still very cool. Personally, I like to see them done with injection. IMO, it just looks meaner than carbs. It makes the car look more like a fueler. As far as cutting the hood, why not use a fiberglass hood? They look like factory hoods, yet aren't priceless and can be cut on without regard to price. What a concept.


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I'm blower illiterate.. what's the difference between "roots" and "centrifugal"? How about 6-71 and 8-71?

Personsally, I don't care for the look of a big blower sticking out the hood, if that's what you're asking .. I prefer the under-hood stealth type

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Freiberger, I definetly noticed that your blower is satin, I like it. If the car represents high a buck effort, then everything should be shiney. But you can make a medium dollar effort that looks really cool and down to earth but wicked. Where all the money goes into the Hemi, the Blower, a Dana, a Jerico, the go-fast stuff. No $ left for frills like polished aluminum and braided hose and 500 pounds of speakers.
I love blower cars, the sound is like nothing else. And the power. But I don't like posuer cars. If it has a blower, it has to go. I don't mean it has to run 8's, but it will need to run strong for what it is, considering the weight, the tires and the level of streetability.
Thanks for keeping us in the loop.


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Roots blowers are still the epitomy of the "ultimate" hot rod motor add-on. Turbos are nice but boring to look at, Cent. superchargers are a bit more interesting than turbos but still dont have that "old school" feel to them and certainly get your blood going. Hearing a blower whine as a nicely done car pulls into the local burger joint etc makes EVERYONE look. My car makes 655rwhp on pump gas, runs mid 10s at over 130mph and has AC, road suspension, full exhaust and 6 way adjustable seats/full interior but the guy next to me who has a 6-71 on a small block chevy in a patchwork colored Nova (etc) will still draw the crowd. Blowers are crowd pleasers and always will be.

Now, where did I put that BDS catalog at.....



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Nothing... and I mean nothing looks cooler than a blown hemi, Dave.

An injected hemi might get close... but nothing says KMA like that picture you attached.

If people are worried about cutting holes in hoods, cut up a 'glass hood... you're painting the horizontals flat black anyway.

Also... on detailing a 6-71 or 8-71 case: I like the satin look, maybe with polished ribs. To me it looks more old school and workmanlike. For something a little different, you might consider painting the case body color and polishing the ribs (and the front and back) kind of like the Tony Nancy's old dragsters.


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Turbos are nice but boring to look at,






Reallly?


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is there an engine under there? can you even get to the spark plugs?

I have to admit.. it does look cool though

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Any body have any info on the Dick Landry setups. I have an old Mopar Muscle with a 6/71 blown 340 in a 72 Roadrunner that still had the airgrabber hood. If I can put one in my Challenger and clear the hood I would do it.

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I can definitely see the advantages of intercooled turbos (so did the Mallicoat brothers... which y'all ought to do a story on, btw), but for my personal preference they tend to defy the rule of K.I.S.S.


Not that it's going to stop me from eventually building one.

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Any body have any info on the Dick Landry setups. I have an old Mopar Muscle with a 6/71 blown 340 in a 72 Roadrunner that still had the airgrabber hood. If I can put one in my Challenger and clear the hood I would do it.




I saw on e-bag, a '70 Chally 'vert R/T w/a 340 DLI supercharger in it w/an R/T hood.

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i would love to see if the owner would ever take that thing out in the rain.


in that respect the flathooded FI cars have them beat. i myself could never build a fairweather only car.




Just what exactly makes ya think that you can`t drive a car with a hole in the hood in the rain...I`ve had mine in the rain more times than I care to count....rain might bother the "trailer queens"..but for those of us that really drive blown cars (and YES i DO drive mine plenty) rain is just some spots at the end of the day that windex and a towel will take care of


And DF...not that i`m prejudiced or anything..but I think ya know where my vote goes

Rick





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Awesome setup, love the EFI,

But for a daily driver, a hole in the hood is a pain in the rear. I'm talking snow, rain, etc..

That's where the under the hood stuff shines.

And instant respect, like instant grits, doesn't taste as good as the real thing...


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thats what i was getting at , anyway you look at it a hole in the hood compromises the cars useability.


i drive my car daily rain or shine , so thats where the underhood methods of FI really shine.


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Awesome setup, love the EFI,
Thanks Whiplash..glad to see you got yours all together finally also


But for a daily driver, a hole in the hood is a pain in the rear. I'm talking snow, rain, etc..
That's where the under the hood stuff shines.
And I absolutely agree 100%..No it dosen`t make the most friendly "daily driver"..I was just addressing the implication that nobody with a blower would drive them in the rain, Like I stated I do drive mine..while I may not be overly happy in a down pour, I also don`t watch the weather forcast 3 days in advance to see if there is gonna be a cloud in the sky ..I`m at work right now and it`s sitting in the parking lot as we speak...I`d be willing to bet that 90% or more of the members on this board won`t/don`t drive their cars in the rain and more to the point.. the SNOW that those of us up here have to deal with..My car was my daily driver from `79 till around `86 when I parked it. While I do enjoy driving it..I like the creature comforts my daily driver affords me more.



And also while i`m on this "hijack"
The notion that any car with a blower had better run 8`s is just a plain crock of $#&*...The level of parts,maintence,money required at that level is just not what alot of people want....myself included..I built mine the way it is, To be fun and dependable because thats the way I wanted it.(and i`ve got a "thang" for blowers)
Given the constraints i`ve imposed on myself with a real V code car, i`m perfectly happy with it`s performance and it still has a some left in it

Sorry `bout the hijack DF....I`m at work and bored

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Polish blowers look cool. Satin blowers are not. The fact is if the owner went thru the trouble of polishing his blower, the chances are much higher that everything else in his engine compartment will look clean and orderly. If you are going for the look, why oh why, would you not want to not make it look as clean and appealing as possible. It would be like comparing a dull bumper to a nice rechromed bumper. I will look at the car with a rechromed bumper and say "nice!" in my head, and then look at the next car with a dull bumper and "wonder???" in my head.

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hehehe (just razzin' ya).

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To each their own, but to me lots of chrome and polish says the owner spent lots of time on chrome and polish, and may not be so interested in the internals.

To me a dull-finish blower is not there to impress visually, so it must mean business. Just my $0.02.


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Satellite + Roots Blowers + Hemi = Cool!

Import Ricer + Fart Can + Fake Nitrous Bottle that's really a Bass Tube + Undercar Neon = Stupid.






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Like anything else- if it is a good combo- works well, and matches the overall design fit/finish of the car- I am all for them.

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But for a daily driver, a hole in the hood is a pain in the rear. I'm talking snow, rain, etc..

That's where the under the hood stuff shines.




Snow? Rain? What's that?

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Big blower sticking out the hood is way cool. That car would be great with a blower, Weld Aluma Stars (new style), and some tub work. Was hard to stop looking at the cars that had blowers at Mopar Nats, my personal favorite being Duster Dave's 73 Duster. Dave's car looked awesome going down Brice Road. Also saw a very, very nice blown, orange 69 RR that was not tubbed, but still grabbed attention. Big yes for a blower on that car!

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Freiburger, you want to know the definition of cool? Doing your own thing and not giving a damn if others like it or not.




Ouch! Sounds like someone hit a raw nerve!

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To each their own, but to me lots of chrome and polish says the owner spent lots of time on chrome and polish, and may not be so interested in the internals.

To me a dull-finish blower is not there to impress visually, so it must mean business. Just my $0.02.






All ugly girls are easy. Don't assume that's the way it is in all cases. It's easy to fall into believing stereotypes. A shiny blower still produces boost just like a satin finish blower. What's wrong with looking good AND being fast? It doesn't have to be one or the other! It just costs more to do both!





Why wasn't this in the briefings?? Wait, let me get a pen- all...ugly...girls...are...

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Blower car's are cool as long as they run hard. but if you use injection you can have the best of both worlds, a driving tune, and a spanking tune Just change the pully's, and load the program and melt tires and ego's
Look at Blown71X's moter shot, that HAT say's it all, just picture it open on the big end

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No raw nerves hit. That's just the credo by which I build my cars by. I don't build my cars based on polls, I build them to suit my tastes. IF other people dig it, that's icing on the cake.




But then you're also not selling subscriptions.

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Duster Dave, what does your car run in the quarter? And what's the weight and how much power did it make?

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If it's a 528 at about 7 psi, I'd expect 900+. I'm interested to learn what it runs.
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I dont care for roots blowers one bit. I have several reasons for this:

1. Expensive.... For the cost of a blower alone, you could build an entire tubo or centrifugial system
2. Cutting up the car. I hate seeing these things stick out of the hood. I'm sorry, but I think it makes the car look stupid.
3. Silent but deadly... This is what a turbo or Centrifugal system is. Its not what a roots is by any stretch.

Oh, FYI... I'm 21 years old. I don't know how old the rest of you are, but I'm guessing older members like older, more proven technology (roots blowers). If I ever get around to my dream car, it'll be a 1971 cuda, all aluminum 4 valve hemi, centrifugially supercharged, 6 speed overdrive, dana 60 with 3:23's, 4 wheel disc brakes, lowered, stiffer springs, heavier anti sway bars, 18/20 inch rims (F/R), with the fronts being 10-12 inches wide, and the rears at least 16. and finally as much weight reduction as I can do. If you ask me, thats a car! Silent but fast. It can stop, it can turn, and it can run like a bat out of hell, and it doesn't have to have a big chunk of aluminum sticking out of the hood to do it.

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You can dislike blowers for any reason you want, and the hole in the hood is a good and common one. But how can you argue they are too expensive when you want an alumium Hemi block that saps power and costs as much as the blower? Where will you get the 4-valve heads? Who will custom-cut 3.23 gears for a Dana 60? Where will you get tires to fit 20x16-inch wheels? Come to think of it, where will you get 20x16-inch wheels? And how will you fit them without cutting up the car?

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tti, I can see one of your points about age being a factor in what we think is cool (I'm 37, btw).

If you want a very quiet sleeper that gives no hint of its potential, I can see a sidewinder or a turbo being the route of choice. But cost being cheaper? I don't see that? It seems to me total cost is a wash... and in most of the cars I have to work with, the turbo route comes up as more expensive. But I could be smoking crack

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Thanks Blown71X That was a super COOL!! video
Man I'M SOLD, I WANT A BLOWER ON MY CUDA

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Chrisf needs to post the pic of the 4 door C-Barge with the Blower again.

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I dont care for roots blowers one bit. I have several reasons for this:

1. Expensive.... For the cost of a blower alone, you could build an entire tubo or centrifugial system




WTH??? Try, just try to build a turbo system that's cheaper. I dare you. Centrifugal...it's a toss-up. By the time you spend $$$ on intercoolers, it can be comparable.

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2. Cutting up the car. I hate seeing these things stick out of the hood. I'm sorry, but I think it makes the car look stupid.




Well...that's a very subjective statement.

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3. Silent but deadly... This is what a turbo or Centrifugal system is. Its not what a roots is by any stretch.



Yeah sure, those blow-off valves on turbo cars are silent. I haven't heard of a centrifugal sc being that quiet.

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Oh, FYI... I'm 21 years old. I don't know how old the rest of you are, but I'm guessing older members like older, more proven technology (roots blowers). If I ever get around to my dream car, it'll be a 1971 cuda, all aluminum 4 valve hemi, centrifugially supercharged, 6 speed overdrive, dana 60 with 3:23's, 4 wheel disc brakes, lowered, stiffer springs, heavier anti sway bars, 18/20 inch rims (F/R), with the fronts being 10-12 inches wide, and the rears at least 16. and finally as much weight reduction as I can do. If you ask me, thats a car! Silent but fast. It can stop, it can turn, and it can run like a bat out of hell, and it doesn't have to have a big chunk of aluminum sticking out of the hood to do it.




*sigh...keep dreamin'. Especially those wheels you just spec'd.

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WE had a 72 71 monoco wagon we used to break our motors in in the middle of winter here- one time, we were driving a tunnel rammed 630hp W2 motor in the middle of winter LOL- we had a garage, so we could get it started, but you dare not let it sit for about an hour, or you will have the devils own time starting it LOL

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What's wrong Clair? You're not that far away and I can get my hands on lotsa turbos.


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If I ever get around to my dream car, it'll be a 1971 cuda, all aluminum 4 valve hemi, centrifugially supercharged, 6 speed overdrive, dana 60 with 3:23's, 4 wheel disc brakes, lowered, stiffer springs, heavier anti sway bars, 18/20 inch rims (F/R), with the fronts being 10-12 inches wide, and the rears at least 16. and finally as much weight reduction as I can do. If you ask me, thats a car! Silent but fast.




Oh, ok, so what you mean is that you want a Ricer, only "Super Sized"
LOL!

Sorry kid, just being an old fart (42) and having a little fun with you.

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Stupid ideas like this rock! I never did hear the road test report--how did it go?

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I dont care for roots blowers one bit. I have several reasons for this:

1. Expensive.... For the cost of a blower alone, you could build an entire tubo or centrifugial system
2. Cutting up the car. I hate seeing these things stick out of the hood. I'm sorry, but I think it makes the car look stupid.
3. Silent but deadly... This is what a turbo or Centrifugal system is. Its not what a roots is by any stretch.

Oh, FYI... I'm 21 years old. I don't know how old the rest of you are, but I'm guessing older members like older, more proven technology (roots blowers). If I ever get around to my dream car, it'll be a 1971 cuda, all aluminum 4 valve hemi, centrifugially supercharged, 6 speed overdrive, dana 60 with 3:23's, 4 wheel disc brakes, lowered, stiffer springs, heavier anti sway bars, 18/20 inch rims (F/R), with the fronts being 10-12 inches wide, and the rears at least 16. and finally as much weight reduction as I can do. If you ask me, thats a car! Silent but fast. It can stop, it can turn, and it can run like a bat out of hell, and it doesn't have to have a big chunk of aluminum sticking out of the hood to do it.




VTEC RULZ MAING!!!!!!!!!

Seriously though, I personally enjoy seeing a bunch of different kinds of cars. You can only look at so many restored '70 'cudas before it starts getting boring. That's when its nice to see a G-machine or pro-street car thrown into the mix.

Personally, I hate cars that are too fussy. Wild paint jobs, Chrome 8-71 blowers, Kandy metalflake scalloped paint jobs, and 20-foot-long chrome wheelie bars. Its sensory overload every time I look at one of those things.

Now, gime me a car with a satin or grey 8-71 blower and a killer solid paint job...then its a different story.

Taste is subjective. I see a lot of things I like and a lot of things I hate in this hobby.











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blowers will always be cool, if you build one and write about it, i'll read. i'll never own one, so if reading about on in a magazine is as close as i'll get then so be it.




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blowers will always be cool, if you build one and write about it, i'll read. i'll never own one, so if reading about on in a magazine is as close as i'll get then so be it.




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road test with the blown new yorker...
-people pull over to look
-gas station guy asks "is that two motors on there?"
-scrap guy comes to the shop and says "with nitro that thing will build 5000hp"
-the car fires instantly, idles smooth doesnt shake or vibrate and is a nice all around daily driver. lol
- no power steering in a new yorker makes us greatful we dont weight 140lbs.lol
-some ideas while drinking beer actually happen.

we are going to take it out this weekend and get some video and pictures.

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Everyone has their own dream car that they want to build & everyone has their own opinion. Some will like it, some won't. That is what is so great about this hobby is you can build it how you want. You can't please everyone, so if you want it, do it! I've always wanted a big blown Hemi & I'm building it.The only person I need to please is myself....Oops can't forget the wife as she is letting me do it.


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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? #13271
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i love 'em... but what do you expect from a guy who puts side exhausts on a fullsize 4-door? i even considered one for my New Yorker (chromed, natch), but i didn't want to lose my AC.

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Then go read some boring threads about big brakes!




What’s the problem with me liking blowers

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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? #13275
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LOL ...now THERE'S a car that needs a blower! Too bad it's not a 2 door!



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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: BBR] #13276
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LOL ...now THERE'S a car that needs a blower! Too bad it's not a 2 door!






"77 440 make good blower motor" 4 doors are better it gives that "stealth" look. lol

Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: chrisf] #13277
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So, how does it run?

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That New Yorker HAS to be one of the coolest cars on this site. It's just wicked.


I love it.

Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: CruisingRam] #13279
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i think they are kool but i also love multi carbs too.


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I dont care for roots blowers one bit. I have several reasons for this:

1. Expensive.... For the cost of a blower alone, you could build an entire tubo or centrifugial system

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ROFLMAO
Man you need to share what your smokin with the rest of us "oldtimers"....We need a "pickmeup" now and then also

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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: Orange_Crush] #13282
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thers always Blower in a bottle too for those guys who are short on $$$

I real do think that NOS has cut into more high $$$ parts being used.


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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: 340SIX] #13283
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all of you can laugh at my big rimmed, 4 valve aluminum supercharged Hemi all you want, but if you can't see it coming, you dont know its there, and it will get you. Thats what I'm going for. Alot of my ideas would have to be one off, custom made things, like the rims. I think having a one of a kind car would stick out great when parked next to 20,000 roots blown 13 second trailer queens. Secondly, yes, I like rice burners, as you would call, them. I also like Mopars. One of my favorite cars is a Subaru Impreza WRX STi. Its cheap, fast, reliable, and pretty good looking if you ask me. My idea for my Cuda is to meld muscle car, and import to form an unbeatable package. I hate straigh line cars. I know drag racing takes skill, but I find it boring. Gimme some turns and hard braking, and I'll get excited. Thats the reason for the stiff chassis, springs, light weight, lowering, big brakes and rims, and wide tires. I've seen 4 valve Hemi heads before at a car show. They are expensive, very expensive, but they flow obnoxious amounts of air. Their display engine made over 1,000 Hp without forced induction. As to the comment about blow off valves... Yes, most are loud, but they dont have to be. I would get a silent (or near silent), one. Finally, IF i could get it to fit, I would make the damn thing all wheel drive too. I'm sure most of you find that a sacrelidge, but the handling would be phenominal. With a 1400~1600 horse forced induction Hemi, in a stiff, 3,000 pound car, delivering the power to all 4 wheels, that Cuda would be faster than just about anything else. Here's a link, This is kinda what I'm goin for:
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?threadid=51569

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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: 340SIX] #13284
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the new yorker honestly runs great, it fires up right away and idles smooth. i was amazed when he fired it up for me. no shakes or anything.
saturday he has a day off so were going to see what kind of trouble we can get into. pictures to follow.
just looking for the 12" wide front tires and the 16" rears. forgot where we put them.

i have a complete cheater set up here and am thinking of finding somehting like that and we can have the nitrous vs blower race. we will call it Meltdown

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good luck.... let us know when it's done.






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**Sigh** Nevermind... I was going to say something, but it simply isn't worth it because: "Fighting with someone on the internet is like [censored]
I simply hope one day, I do finish the car, and I meet YOU, at the track, or the stoplight, or anywhere else, and we'll see how things pan out.

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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? #13290
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I dont care for roots blowers one bit. I have several reasons for this:

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WTH??? Try, just try to build a turbo system that's cheaper. I dare you. Centrifugal...it's a toss-up. By the time you spend $$$ on intercoolers, it can be comparable.





ok, no prob, i have $2500 into mine, all brand new stuff. i might have another $500 in it when im done but come on, it will cost you that much if not more in a roots setup depending on what you get. lets face it, none of this is cheap, but if your good at scouting out deals (new and used) and doing research, it can be done for a bargin price.

in any case, blowers are cool. especially on that freakin' new yorker. thats a car that would get my attention anyday.


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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: Freiburger] #13291
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An 8-71 can easily add 200 hp to any engine you've got while maintaining driveability. But it also means a big tacky hole in the hood. Is it time for blowers to come back or not? Let's see your blown cars! And--more importantly--let's hear how fast they are.
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Most definately Very cool.

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**Sigh** Nevermind... I was going to say something, but it simply isn't worth it because: "Fighting with someone on the internet is like [censored]."

I simply hope one day, I do finish the car, and I meet YOU, at the track, or the stoplight, or anywhere else, and we'll see how things pan out.




i wonder if the babysitter has noticed hes missing yet

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**Sigh** Nevermind... I was going to say something, but it simply isn't worth it because: "Fighting with someone on the internet is like competing in the special olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded."

I simply hope one day, I do finish the car, and I meet YOU, at the track, or the stoplight, or anywhere else, and we'll see how things pan out.




i wonder if the babysitter has noticed hes missing yet




You know, the title of this post was "Poll." A poll is an opinion... I shared my opinion. The above statements were my opinion. Unfortunately, they didn't meet the "norm" around here on the Moparts board, so they automatically have to be wrong, and everyone is going to harass me about them. If you've noticed, I only have 30 something posts here. I've been a member here for quite some time, but the reason I dont post is becuase of [censored] comments like the several I have gotten in response to my opinions. I belong to several other boards (most of them import), and NONE of them has nearly as many PROFANITY DELETED - YOU ARE NOW BANNED as Moparts. Must be the superiority complex that comes with owning a roots blower... Don't forget, I'm the future of this hobby, not you guys. Keep scaring off young people and there wont be a hobby.

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**Sigh** Nevermind... I was going to say something, but it simply isn't worth it because: "Fighting with someone on the internet is like [censored]

I simply hope one day, I do finish the car, and I meet YOU, at the track, or the stoplight, or anywhere else, and we'll see how things pan out.




I don't say this much because I'm normally a nice guy.....but your mindless comment about the Special Olympics reveals only a small cross section of the real idiot you must be.

My 2 lincs.

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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: Molloy] #13296
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all blowers are cool...even this kind (see attach) They add a ton of H.P. w/o giving up drivability. I don't know how much more power I have but it feels like a lot. If you mash it the tires explode instantly. I don't have a new et w/ the unit but that will be solved tomorrow (9/25) I'll let everybody know. I hope nothing brakes. I'll probably never go back to naturally asperated again. I'm already thinking about a Blk on Blk 68 Charger w/ a stroked 440 and 12-14lbs of cooled boost. Y'all have fun.

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one more thing...as for cost, unless you are a terrific welder, pipe bender, fabricator a TT set up is going to cost more than a roots or even a Centrifical unit. By the time you get a fuel managment system, EFI, (and trust me you're not going to push 14 psi down a carb) the turbos, cooler you will have a bunch of time invovled. It's either cut the hood or the innner finders. I did a lot of work on this myself and I have about $2500 in my set up. A brand new 671 out of the box w/ all the hook-ups can be had for about $2800. Much easier to install and much easier on the carb(s) You can find used/re-manned units on 'bay for 1/2 that. So what's cost more cost effective?


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Yep, "ALL blowers are cool"!!

BUT, this post isn't anymore. This one's gettin' shut down since it's turning into personal insults and taunts. The "Special Olympics" comment was really uncalled for.

Sorry DF, it was fun while it lasted.

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