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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? #13252
09/22/04 05:22 PM
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I dont care for roots blowers one bit. I have several reasons for this:

1. Expensive.... For the cost of a blower alone, you could build an entire tubo or centrifugial system
2. Cutting up the car. I hate seeing these things stick out of the hood. I'm sorry, but I think it makes the car look stupid.
3. Silent but deadly... This is what a turbo or Centrifugal system is. Its not what a roots is by any stretch.

Oh, FYI... I'm 21 years old. I don't know how old the rest of you are, but I'm guessing older members like older, more proven technology (roots blowers). If I ever get around to my dream car, it'll be a 1971 cuda, all aluminum 4 valve hemi, centrifugially supercharged, 6 speed overdrive, dana 60 with 3:23's, 4 wheel disc brakes, lowered, stiffer springs, heavier anti sway bars, 18/20 inch rims (F/R), with the fronts being 10-12 inches wide, and the rears at least 16. and finally as much weight reduction as I can do. If you ask me, thats a car! Silent but fast. It can stop, it can turn, and it can run like a bat out of hell, and it doesn't have to have a big chunk of aluminum sticking out of the hood to do it.

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You can dislike blowers for any reason you want, and the hole in the hood is a good and common one. But how can you argue they are too expensive when you want an alumium Hemi block that saps power and costs as much as the blower? Where will you get the 4-valve heads? Who will custom-cut 3.23 gears for a Dana 60? Where will you get tires to fit 20x16-inch wheels? Come to think of it, where will you get 20x16-inch wheels? And how will you fit them without cutting up the car?

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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: Freiburger] #13254
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tti, I can see one of your points about age being a factor in what we think is cool (I'm 37, btw).

If you want a very quiet sleeper that gives no hint of its potential, I can see a sidewinder or a turbo being the route of choice. But cost being cheaper? I don't see that? It seems to me total cost is a wash... and in most of the cars I have to work with, the turbo route comes up as more expensive. But I could be smoking crack

Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: Boozoo] #13255
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Thanks Blown71X That was a super COOL!! video
Man I'M SOLD, I WANT A BLOWER ON MY CUDA

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Chrisf needs to post the pic of the 4 door C-Barge with the Blower again.

Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: Just Cameron] #13257
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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: chrisf] #13258
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i think this still deserves to end up in a mag as a really stupid idea. lol

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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? #13259
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I dont care for roots blowers one bit. I have several reasons for this:

1. Expensive.... For the cost of a blower alone, you could build an entire tubo or centrifugial system




WTH??? Try, just try to build a turbo system that's cheaper. I dare you. Centrifugal...it's a toss-up. By the time you spend $$$ on intercoolers, it can be comparable.

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2. Cutting up the car. I hate seeing these things stick out of the hood. I'm sorry, but I think it makes the car look stupid.




Well...that's a very subjective statement.

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3. Silent but deadly... This is what a turbo or Centrifugal system is. Its not what a roots is by any stretch.



Yeah sure, those blow-off valves on turbo cars are silent. I haven't heard of a centrifugal sc being that quiet.

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Oh, FYI... I'm 21 years old. I don't know how old the rest of you are, but I'm guessing older members like older, more proven technology (roots blowers). If I ever get around to my dream car, it'll be a 1971 cuda, all aluminum 4 valve hemi, centrifugially supercharged, 6 speed overdrive, dana 60 with 3:23's, 4 wheel disc brakes, lowered, stiffer springs, heavier anti sway bars, 18/20 inch rims (F/R), with the fronts being 10-12 inches wide, and the rears at least 16. and finally as much weight reduction as I can do. If you ask me, thats a car! Silent but fast. It can stop, it can turn, and it can run like a bat out of hell, and it doesn't have to have a big chunk of aluminum sticking out of the hood to do it.




*sigh...keep dreamin'. Especially those wheels you just spec'd.

Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: chrisf] #13260
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WE had a 72 71 monoco wagon we used to break our motors in in the middle of winter here- one time, we were driving a tunnel rammed 630hp W2 motor in the middle of winter LOL- we had a garage, so we could get it started, but you dare not let it sit for about an hour, or you will have the devils own time starting it LOL

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Stop it !!!!
All this blower talk is driving me crazy v

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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: Clair] #13263
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What's wrong Clair? You're not that far away and I can get my hands on lotsa turbos.


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If I ever get around to my dream car, it'll be a 1971 cuda, all aluminum 4 valve hemi, centrifugially supercharged, 6 speed overdrive, dana 60 with 3:23's, 4 wheel disc brakes, lowered, stiffer springs, heavier anti sway bars, 18/20 inch rims (F/R), with the fronts being 10-12 inches wide, and the rears at least 16. and finally as much weight reduction as I can do. If you ask me, thats a car! Silent but fast.




Oh, ok, so what you mean is that you want a Ricer, only "Super Sized"
LOL!

Sorry kid, just being an old fart (42) and having a little fun with you.

Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: chrisf] #13265
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Stupid ideas like this rock! I never did hear the road test report--how did it go?

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I dont care for roots blowers one bit. I have several reasons for this:

1. Expensive.... For the cost of a blower alone, you could build an entire tubo or centrifugial system
2. Cutting up the car. I hate seeing these things stick out of the hood. I'm sorry, but I think it makes the car look stupid.
3. Silent but deadly... This is what a turbo or Centrifugal system is. Its not what a roots is by any stretch.

Oh, FYI... I'm 21 years old. I don't know how old the rest of you are, but I'm guessing older members like older, more proven technology (roots blowers). If I ever get around to my dream car, it'll be a 1971 cuda, all aluminum 4 valve hemi, centrifugially supercharged, 6 speed overdrive, dana 60 with 3:23's, 4 wheel disc brakes, lowered, stiffer springs, heavier anti sway bars, 18/20 inch rims (F/R), with the fronts being 10-12 inches wide, and the rears at least 16. and finally as much weight reduction as I can do. If you ask me, thats a car! Silent but fast. It can stop, it can turn, and it can run like a bat out of hell, and it doesn't have to have a big chunk of aluminum sticking out of the hood to do it.




VTEC RULZ MAING!!!!!!!!!

Seriously though, I personally enjoy seeing a bunch of different kinds of cars. You can only look at so many restored '70 'cudas before it starts getting boring. That's when its nice to see a G-machine or pro-street car thrown into the mix.

Personally, I hate cars that are too fussy. Wild paint jobs, Chrome 8-71 blowers, Kandy metalflake scalloped paint jobs, and 20-foot-long chrome wheelie bars. Its sensory overload every time I look at one of those things.

Now, gime me a car with a satin or grey 8-71 blower and a killer solid paint job...then its a different story.

Taste is subjective. I see a lot of things I like and a lot of things I hate in this hobby.











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Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: Freiburger] #13267
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blowers will always be cool, if you build one and write about it, i'll read. i'll never own one, so if reading about on in a magazine is as close as i'll get then so be it.




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blowers will always be cool, if you build one and write about it, i'll read. i'll never own one, so if reading about on in a magazine is as close as i'll get then so be it.




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road test with the blown new yorker...
-people pull over to look
-gas station guy asks "is that two motors on there?"
-scrap guy comes to the shop and says "with nitro that thing will build 5000hp"
-the car fires instantly, idles smooth doesnt shake or vibrate and is a nice all around daily driver. lol
- no power steering in a new yorker makes us greatful we dont weight 140lbs.lol
-some ideas while drinking beer actually happen.

we are going to take it out this weekend and get some video and pictures.

Re: Quick Poll: Are Roots Blowers Cool or Stupid? [Re: 340duster340] #13270
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Everyone has their own dream car that they want to build & everyone has their own opinion. Some will like it, some won't. That is what is so great about this hobby is you can build it how you want. You can't please everyone, so if you want it, do it! I've always wanted a big blown Hemi & I'm building it.The only person I need to please is myself....Oops can't forget the wife as she is letting me do it.


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i love 'em... but what do you expect from a guy who puts side exhausts on a fullsize 4-door? i even considered one for my New Yorker (chromed, natch), but i didn't want to lose my AC.

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