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Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: mopar65] #1313414
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Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: 440W8 Duster] #1313415
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I used 93 jeep Cherokee rotors. You don't need a measurement to place the caliper bracket. Just bolt on the rotors put the pads in the calipers and bolt them to the brackets. Install them over the rotor and it helps if you have someone hold the brake pedal one you have them where you want them, this will square them up to the rotor. Then just tack the brackets on, remove everything and weld them up. Here's some pics from mine.





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Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: DemonDust] #1313416
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I used 93 jeep rotors. You don't need a measurement to place the caliper bracket. Just bolt on the rotors put the pads in the calipers and bolt them to the brackets. Install them over the rotor and it helps if you have someone hold the brake pedal one you have them where you want them, this will square them up to the rotor. Then just tack the brackets on, remove everything and weld them up. Here's some pics from mine.









I used the front rotors from a 2000 Grand Cherokee, Speedway brackets, Autozone calipers and pads. I drilled the rotors for 5/8" studs, mocked it up on the axle, and put shop air to the calipers to hold them in place while welding. My rear lines are flex lines that were also purchased along with the fittings from Speedway.

Randy

Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: DemonDust] #1313417
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What about a parking brake?

Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: sbhpcb] #1313418
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no parking brake with these calipers.
I'll also mention that a couple tabs for the hoses to clip on are a nice addition while you have the welder out...
Make sure you leave enough slack so the caliper can be removed from the rotor for pad replacement.

Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: RodStRace] #1313419
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You put a cable-operated disc brake on the rear end pinion.

What I don't understand is why one wouldn't use a rear caliper with a disk brake provision?

R.

Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: dogdays] #1313420
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thanks for all the ideals guys and how easy they are to set up.I am wanting to do this this way on my car because i don't need a park brake for my street/strip car. but if i was going to use a set up with a park brake. there is a guy over at FABO site that took the complete rear disc break set up off of a jeep. looked pretty easy to do.its is in the brakes section.

OK back to the gm disc conversion what did you guys do with the factory proptioning valve? i mean did you leave it be, bypass it or just remove it and add a adjustable one for the rear breaks. I already have a aluminum latter mod brake master cylinder. also the conversion brake line kits on found on ebay and speed way have kits that come with everything. like the little brackets that you weld to the axle, so you can mount the brake line.i think this is a very keep way to have disc breaks for the rear of your car.it will be a couple of weeks before i get all the parts bought and will put up some pics when i get it installed.going to have to hit up the parts store to see if i can fine the brake lines to build me a kit cheaper that what eBay or speedway is wanting.Mopar65


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Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: mopar65] #1313421
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I also didn't see the need for a parking brake on mine. As for the proportioning valve, I went with an adjustable one. There are a bunch of brands and styles out there in a variety of prices. Check out the ones speedway has while you are ordering up the brackets, lines, fittings, caliper bolts, clips, etc.... saves on shipping too!

Randy

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The only thing I got from speedway were the brackets. Everything else i got from Oreilly. Everything from O'Reilly cost less than $115 ( rotors, calipers, pads, hoses, banjo bolt)

When you buy the brackets just get the flat ones, I bought the gusseted first and they were a pita.


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Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: DemonDust] #1313423
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The only thing I got from speedway were the brackets. Everything else i got from Oreilly. Everything from O'Reilly cost less than $115 ( rotors, calipers, pads, hoses, banjo bolt)

When you buy the brackets just get the flat ones, I bought the gusseted first and they were a pita.




thanks that what i plan on doing. i already have all the parts and prices looked up on orielys web site. but on the hoses do you have a part number for them on what year make car etc you found the part number for the hose? also can you show a pic of how you mounted your break lines? thanks Mopar65


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Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: Dartin] #1313424
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I also didn't see the need for a parking brake on mine. As for the proportioning valve, I went with an adjustable one. There are a bunch of brands and styles out there in a variety of prices. Check out the ones speedway has while you are ordering up the brackets, lines, fittings, caliper bolts, clips, etc.... saves on shipping too!

Randy




thanks for the info. i have used the adjustable one before on my 65 but that was with wildwood brakes front and back. so did you just plug the rear break line coming off the factory valve and run a new line from the master cylinder etc? Mopar65


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Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: mopar65] #1313425
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The part number is BH36847. I used a 79 Malibu for my reference.

My brake lines are the stock lines that ran to the cylinders, I just shortened them and reflared them so they worked with the flex hoses.


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Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: mopar65] #1313426
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I also didn't see the need for a parking brake on mine. As for the proportioning valve, I went with an adjustable one. There are a bunch of brands and styles out there in a variety of prices. Check out the ones speedway has while you are ordering up the brackets, lines, fittings, caliper bolts, clips, etc.... saves on shipping too!

Randy




thanks for the info. i have used the adjustable one before on my 65 but that was with wildwood brakes front and back. so did you just plug the rear break line coming off the factory valve and run a new line from the master cylinder etc? Mopar65




Yep, I plumbed the adjustable prop valve into the rear line coming from the master cylinder. For the lines I used the braided flex lines that Speedway sells. I didn't use banjo bolt type lines. They sell a fitting that adapts a flex line to the banjo thread size (can't remember the size off the top of my head though).

Randy

Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: DemonDust] #1313427
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Has anybody done a weight comparison when swapping from a set of 10" drums? Just curious if this sheds any weight as well.

Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: Charger453] #1313428
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Funny.... was just looking at Willwoods for the rear this am.

can't imagine alot of weight savings... factory calpers are usually not light weight.

Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: J_BODY] #1313429
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I used a caliper for a s10 and a rotor for rear of 92 jeep got bracket from jegs
calipers were 10 bucks rotors were 40 pads were 12 bucks
for same price on the rotors can get them drilled and sloted off ebay (think was like (70.00)


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Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: mopar65] #1313430
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I have not done the lines yet, but I am under $70.00.

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Re: GM metric rear disc conversion [Re: 440W8 Duster] #1313431
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Jeff I used rotors from a Jeep Grand Cherokee with GM metric calipers and brakes from any circle track shop for the rear.




Sorry to bring up a old post, but Jesse, what is the difference in the brake pads from circle track, compared to a regular set of pads?

Jeff

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That wasn't his point. The lower-cost circle track classes use a "metric GM" caliper. It may even be a requirement in some classes. Anyway, circle track stores should have them and pads out on the shelves so it's easy to just walk in and buy a pair. You don't need to wrestle with the parts guy's computer like you would at Autozone.

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That wasn't his point. The lower-cost circle track classes use a "metric GM" caliper. It may even be a requirement in some classes. Anyway, circle track stores should have them and pads out on the shelves so it's easy to just walk in and buy a pair. You don't need to wrestle with the parts guy's computer like you would at Autozone.

R.




Jesse, is/was a parts counter guy, that is why I asked. If a simple set from the local parts store is the same for $13 I'll just pick them up, and run a spacer from Speedway.

Jeff

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