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transmissions date coded??? #1277364 08/01/12 12:21 AM 08/01/12 12:21 AM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,559 Oh H His and Her 69's OP pro stock
His and Her 69's OP pro stock H Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,559 Oh	Is there a date code on a 727 transmission to help determine the build date of the car??? I have my original trans but not the engine, k member is hard to read - almost impossible to read, and my car is an A12 with a 426 on the tag so that doesn't help either. Any other ways to know an exact date??? p.s wiper motor was changed out also. Thanks David

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: His and Her 69's] #1277365 08/01/12 01:27 AM 08/01/12 01:27 AM
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52savoy master 5 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,271 State of Fascism	Where's the fender tag or broadcast sheet? The VIN will help a little. You can compare it to other cars with close VIN's The tranny is a hit or miss deal.

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: 52savoy] #1277366 08/01/12 01:35 AM 08/01/12 01:35 AM
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His and Her 69's OP pro stock H Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,559 Oh	Fender tag I have but it's 426 which was the second batch of A12 RR's. No broadcast sheet as it was changed to a 70 charger bucket seat interior long before I got it. I have a RR bench seat back in it now. Can't seem to find close enough cars to my VIN but our guess is late April very Early May. Door panels are April 17th. David

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: His and Her 69's] #1277367 08/01/12 03:06 AM 08/01/12 03:06 AM
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AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	Quote: Is there a date code on a 727 transmission to help determine the build date of the car??? I have my original trans but not the engine, k member is hard to read - almost impossible to read, and my car is an A12 with a 426 on the tag so that doesn't help either. Any other ways to know an exact date??? p.s wiper motor was changed out also. Thanks David You can approximate the actual build date of an A12 car by tracking other non A12 lynch road cars with VINs close to yours. My A12 is 263554 and actual build date is on or about 4/26, I know this cause the dealer wholesale invoice I have is dated 4/29 and was printed right after assembly. Trans does have a date but they are usually assembled weeks before the car gets assembled. 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1277368 08/01/12 03:20 AM 08/01/12 03:20 AM
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His and Her 69's OP pro stock H Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,559 Oh	Thanks. Mine is 267960 and unless you know someone close to yours there is no info out there for me to contact the cars around mine. I looked on the registry but that info is not on there. I have info of car 261--- being an early April car and car 271--- being a May 8th car. I am trying to get close so I can get a wiper motor close to what mine should be and any other date code parts I may need. I was trying to use A12 RR's as a guide for my info. Thanks for the info. I don't want to buy 1 and after getting it redone finding out it's too early or too late for my car. Up to 2 weeks prior seems to be the normal range so far. Where is the date on the transmissions?? in the line of numbers on the pan rail????? David

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: His and Her 69's] #1277369 08/01/12 04:32 AM 08/01/12 04:32 AM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	Quote: Thanks. Mine is 267960..... This VIN would be consistent with a regular production car with an SPD of 506 or 507. Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: His and Her 69's] #1277370 08/01/12 10:28 AM 08/01/12 10:28 AM
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AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	Quote: Thanks. Mine is 267960 and unless you know someone close to yours there is no info out there for me to contact the cars around mine. I looked on the registry but that info is not on there. I have info of car 261--- being an early April car and car 271--- being a May 8th car. I am trying to get close so I can get a wiper motor close to what mine should be and any other date code parts I may need. I was trying to use A12 RR's as a guide for my info. Thanks for the info. I don't want to buy 1 and after getting it redone finding out it's too early or too late for my car. Up to 2 weeks prior seems to be the normal range so far. Where is the date on the transmissions?? in the line of numbers on the pan rail????? David Its the 4 numbers on pan rail after the part #, assuming its a 093 trans mine has the #s 2776 which is March 4, 1969, about 6 weeks ahead of assembly, pretty consistent with all my other original parts 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #1277371 08/01/12 10:30 AM 08/01/12 10:30 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808 AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here
AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	Quote: Quote: Thanks. Mine is 267960..... This VIN would be consistent with a regular production car with an SPD of 506 or 507. I knew you would know that. 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1277372 08/01/12 03:21 PM 08/01/12 03:21 PM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	Quote: Quote: Quote: Thanks. Mine is 267960..... This VIN would be consistent with a regular production car with an SPD of 506 or 507. I knew you would know that. Only because it's YOUR fault I got into all this whole VIN tracking in the first place. You enabled me. Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #1277373 08/01/12 03:50 PM 08/01/12 03:50 PM
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DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	closest I could find was 265969 which was 501 Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #1277374 08/01/12 05:39 PM 08/01/12 05:39 PM
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AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Thanks. Mine is 267960..... This VIN would be consistent with a regular production car with an SPD of 506 or 507. I knew you would know that. Only because it's YOUR fault I got into all this whole VIN tracking in the first place. You enabled me. Yeah, my wife blame crazy crap on me too 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: DPelletier] #1277375 08/01/12 05:48 PM 08/01/12 05:48 PM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,529 Las Vegas, NV	If you are trying to find a "closer" best guess on the car's actual build date, look at the sequence number on the top line of the fender tag. It's my OPINION that this is the "body build sequence number", in this example it appears (to me) that these bodies were scheduled to be built at the plant (same day to batch for paint?) 95 units apart, much closer than their SPDs or VIN sequence would indicate (2113 VINs apart). I would "ASSUME" the Sport Satelite was on time & the Coronet R/T was a day early, providing they didn't have any issues within the plant. So, what is the sequence number on the top line of your fender tag? 7317243-9a269749vs9a267636.jpg (37 downloads)

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: 6bblgt] #1277376 08/01/12 06:57 PM 08/01/12 06:57 PM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	FWIW, here are your tags mixed in with similar sequence numbers and SPDs. The 426 cars are A12 cars. (Model-Body style-SPD-Sequence number-VIN) WK 41 416 264849 259506 RM 23 506 265327 267355 WM 23 426 265355 265982 RM 21 426 265721 263145 WM 23 426 266689 261837 RM 21 426 267631 270343 WM 23 426 267642 270631 WS 23 507 267787 269749 RM 23 501 267813 264119 RM 21 426 267851 264574 RP 23 506 267882 267636 RS 23 502 268503 266319 RM 23 426 268660 270976 RM 23 502 269567 265199 WM 21 426 270705 271406 WM 23 426 270719 271395 WM 23 512 271128 272164 Last edited by 69CoronetRT; 08/01/12 07:03 PM.

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #1277377 08/02/12 01:41 AM 08/02/12 01:41 AM
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His and Her 69's OP pro stock H Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,559 Oh	Thanks so far for the info guys. I will have to look at my fender tag and see what the sequence # is. David EDIT, Dan and Doug my sequence # is 266813 Does that tell you anything different??? Thanks Guys for the Info. Last edited by His and Her 69's; 08/02/12 03:55 AM.

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: His and Her 69's] #1277378 08/02/12 12:45 PM 08/02/12 12:45 PM
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DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	So I guess the real question is do you want to find the SPD or the actual date. It would appear that your car was built 1147 units early. Doug and Dan; May 4th and 5th were a Saturday and Sunday. Any idea what the plants production days/hours were for the weekends? Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: DPelletier] #1277379 08/02/12 02:40 PM 08/02/12 02:40 PM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	Quote: Doug and Dan; May 4th and 5th were a Saturday and Sunday. Any idea what the plants production days/hours were for the weekends? I don't. I do know that I have six to seven consecutive days of SPDs at the 1969 STL plant so there was (presumably) work on Saturdays and Sundays. I would think weekend production would be 'seasonal' depending on the time of year, total sales volume, plant production capability, if one plant had to pick up production because another plant was down and things like that. A nice thing about a large plant data base is it gives you a better idea as to production volume on a per week or per day basis. Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #1277380 08/02/12 03:21 PM 08/02/12 03:21 PM
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DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	What I was thinking is that if the SPD was 506 (Monday) and the car was 1147 early then depending whether they worked that weekend makes it hard to say if the actual production date was thurs/friday or on the weekend. My car's VIN is WM23V0A185788, the sequence number is 185226 which makes it 562 cars early. The SPD is C18 which was a Thursday so my car was probably built on Wednesday, December 17th 1969. fun stuff. Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: DPelletier] #1277381 08/03/12 03:49 AM 08/03/12 03:49 AM
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His and Her 69's OP pro stock H Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,559 Oh	All this info is exciting to find out. Keep the info coming as I am learning a lot from this. I will have to get a better look at the k member when I get back to the bodyshop. Any other areas I could look at to see??? At least I know now that it was built the first week of May. Thanks David

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: His and Her 69's] #1277382 08/03/12 10:59 AM 08/03/12 10:59 AM
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hemicar1971 master H Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,124 Chicago Blackhawks	With Automotive production there are many variables that changes the actual date that is considered a cars build date. I have found that every year or type of car had its screw ups after the fender tag and broadcast sheet were made. With E Bodies I believe it has to do with the options that were ordered and how available these option were and how well the production plant kept track of the parts needed to for the build. I thave found at the end of the production year parts were not tracked as well as during the year. Maybe this is because of holidays or students or new employees in May June and July. I would think that an A12 build might have similiar problems with attaining the special parts it needed. Now any of you guys have any theories on why A12 Road Runner production stopped much earlier than A12 SuperBee Production or does your research tell you something different.I judge this be looking at VIN numbers and Super Bees being much later. The only real difference in the cars from normal production car is the hood from Runner to Super Bee. 1971 HEMI E BODY REGISTRY

Re: transmissions date coded??? [Re: His and Her 69's] #1277383 08/03/12 02:55 PM 08/03/12 02:55 PM
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AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	Quote: All this info is exciting to find out. Keep the info coming as I am learning a lot from this. I will have to get a better look at the k member when I get back to the bodyshop. Any other areas I could look at to see??? At least I know now that it was built the first week of May. Thanks David All this and more is available on the A12 Registry/Forum 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

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