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Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 [Re: dart1962_440] #1244248
06/03/12 12:25 PM
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Can't ebay be flagged on the issue?





YES.


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Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1244249
06/03/12 01:07 PM
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It's Sunday, I guess the guy is resetting the honest meter today.

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Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 [Re: oldjonny] #1244250
06/03/12 05:54 PM
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Someone must have got to him...check out the latest modification to the ad:

This is not a numbers matching car nor am I trying to sell it as one.Anyone that thinks they can build a car of this caliber cheaper please find a car and GOOD LUCK !!! I know what I have and what I have spent so if you are interested in a EXTREMELY NICE CAR here it is.If you have comments keep them to yourself or go buy that all original car that everyone THINKS they have or can get so cheap !!!! Please dont waist my time with lowball offers. My Buy it Now isnt far off. This isn"t a car thrown together for a quick sale nor do I need to sell it.The build costs are more than I have it priced and its a very fresh resto. After this add ends there will be no more chances because I'm going to KEEP it and drive it EVERYDAY the roads are not wet.


That would have been me. hehehe I emailed him and told him that was a lot of money for a rebodied car and that that vin.fender tag and title was sold on ebay in 2008. He wasn't very happy with me. But that is a lot of money for what it is.

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1244251
06/03/12 09:09 PM
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Appreciate the heads up on this car. Such vigilance will surely help enthusiasts avoid costly mistakes and disappointments. (Car looks awesome but invaluable to have the background on it!)

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 [Re: TorqueChap] #1244252
06/04/12 12:38 PM
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I see strong evidence that this car is a rebody, but I don't see clear evidence that he did it or knew about it.

It's entirely possible he knew he wanted a 70 Challenger, started collecting parts (none of us have ever bought parts for a car we didn't own, right? ), and then bought the car somewhere, either as a pile of parts or as a project that had already been rebodied.

His aggravated response could be expected if anonymous people began telling him that he and/or his car was a fraud.

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 [Re: Fury Fan] #1244253
06/04/12 01:08 PM
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His aggravated response could be expected if anonymous people began telling him that he and/or his car was a fraud.




His aggravated response could just as easily stem from a rebody scammer being outed...it doesn't much matter now, the correct course of action is clear: avoid this car at any price.


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Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1244254
06/04/12 06:11 PM
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The dash tag, fender tag & title were offered for sale on Ebay back in 2008. The seller stated that they had been removed "some 25 years ago".

Link to the 'car' now for sale;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Cha...ebe86f9a7#v4-37

I'll list a couple photos from the 2008 ad also.






you are the man. thanks for posting stuff like this!

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 - Update! [Re: nutso suave] #1244255
06/11/12 09:23 PM
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The car has been seized & verified as a VIN swap car.

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 - Update! [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1244256
06/11/12 09:40 PM
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The car has been seized & verified as a VIN swap car.




How do you know this?

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 - Update! [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1244257
06/11/12 09:45 PM
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The car has been seized & verified as a VIN swap car.




spill the details...

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 - Update! [Re: cal_gecko] #1244258
06/11/12 09:53 PM
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How do you know this?




I reported it to a couple folks in law enforcement I know. The information was passed on to one of their agents. The only other detail I know so far is that they are trying to ID the donor body. If the original body stamps are there that should not take long.

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 - Update! [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1244259
06/11/12 10:04 PM
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How do you know this?




I reported it to a couple folks in law enforcement I know. The information was passed on to one of their agents. The only other detail I know so far is that they are trying to ID the donor body. If the original body stamps are there that should not take long.




Good job!!!





What's unfortunate - is, who knows what will happen to the car once it does get impounded .. hopefully it doesn't get destroyed... it was clean looking.

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 - Update! [Re: cal_gecko] #1244260
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They usually confiscate the donor numbers & the car ends up with a state issued VIN based on the body numbers, but it varies by state.

If they can prove criminal intent or if the body was stolen, it is a whole different ball game.

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 - Update! [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1244261
06/11/12 10:33 PM
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Great job.

I have a feeling we will see the car again with a state issued VIN at a much lower price.

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 - Update! [Re: KillerBee] #1244262
06/11/12 11:22 PM
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Great job.

I have a feeling we will see the car again with a state issued VIN at a much lower price.




as a lifetime Mopar fanatic.....it just nauseates me to no end about all of the fraud out there! There are so many shady @##$%^&'# that knowingly do this stuff everyday and you really have to know what to look for or know someone who knows what to look for so the buyer doesn't get taken for a bad ride!


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Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 - Update! [Re: E-Ticket] #1244263
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I see this as a positive outcome as well. The more times this happens the more the fraudsters will think twice about doing it.

Sheldon

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 - Update! [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1244264
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Hmmmm, so WIW with a clean state issued VIN?

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 - Update! [Re: coffeeman383] #1244265
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Could you title it with the factory body numbers if it wasn't stolen? Glad it is getting resolved and hopefully nobody lost money without the knowledge.

Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 - Update! [Re: coffeeman383] #1244266
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Hmmmm, so WIW with a clean state issued VIN?




Somewhat less than a JH23C0BXXXXXX with a clean original title IMO.


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Re: Here is one to avoid - JS23N0B141390 - Update! [Re: wally426ci] #1244267
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Could you title it with the factory body numbers if it wasn't stolen? Glad it is getting resolved and hopefully nobody lost money without the knowledge.



I think it depends on what state has what rules?? I have a Challenger with an Arizona state issued plate and they stamped the original VIN on it.


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