Re: nerves shot part 2, help guys!!
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Read my edit. mark it so you can return it.
The 3500 stall is why it tolerated driving around with low inital and no vacuum advance.
What is your ignition set up? Can you wire in a stock Hei that autozone sells with a vacuum advance pod?
If you do not want the trouble contact Don at 4secondsflat.com. he will send you a built HEI that is perfect.
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Re: nerves shot part 2, help guys!!
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05/12/12 11:51 PM
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You have the vacuum advance system, but you chose not to hook it up? It is my oppinion of 30 years wrenching that it is necessary for a driving car.
Are you playing around with me.
Attach the hose and suck on it see if the diaphram leaks. A allen wrench adjusts the vacuum advance . Do it through the tit. If the diaphram is good hook it up to manifold vacuum. With your mechanical curve set, it should be able to adjust close enough if not right on.
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Re: nerves shot part 2, help guys!!
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If your timing is correct and the ignition is up to par the plugs will clean themselves I never had any good Champion plugs so I would start with Denso,NGK, or Accell plugs.Some swear by Autolites I like Denso Iridium plugs,they never foul with MSD and Firecore ignition components and they don't wear out. I have also seen this type of problem with the cam timing off the mark If you have anyone local to you with a 440 try the ignition system off their car and see if there is and difference,or you could also just try another carb Sometimes you have to know what it isn't Gus
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Re: nerves shot part 2, help guys!!
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05/13/12 01:01 PM
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What type of coil and ecu box do you have? Take a test light ground the lead to a good ground, probe the other lead to the neg side of the coil and crank the engine and see if the test flickers with wire connected orginally, the volts are too low 4.5/7.
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Re: nerves shot part 2, help guys!!
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I tried using 2 jumper wires straight from pos and neg at the coil to the pos and neg at the battery and cranked it, it wont fire the plugs like this for some reason.
If you ran the two jumpers as stated above, you prevented the breaking of the circuit on the negative post of the coil. Hence, no break, no spark! Retry the jumper pos battery post to pos terminal of coil. Negative battery post to the coil holding bracket or one of the bolts, not the NEGATIVE COIL TERMINAL. 4.5 volts at the coil is low. Give it another try with the setup I mentioned. Ron
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Re: nerves shot part 2, help guys!!
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I tried using 2 jumper wires straight from pos and neg at the coil to the pos and neg at the battery and cranked it, it wont fire the plugs like this for some reason.
If you ran the two jumpers as stated above, you prevented the breaking of the circuit on the negative post of the coil. Hence, no break, no spark! Retry the jumper pos battery post to pos terminal of coil. Negative battery post to the coil holding bracket or one of the bolts, not the NEGATIVE COIL TERMINAL. 4.5 volts at the coil is low. Give it another try with the setup I mentioned. Ron
ok, when i jumper the + from the coil to the + on the battery can i leave the original wire thats hooked to the + side of the coil hooked up? also, i have a stock coil, parts house ECU and NGK plugs, i also have another chrome ecu i tried, still nothing
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Re: nerves shot part 2, help guys!!
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weird!!! So i put a jumper from pos battery to pos on coil, then a jumper from neg battery to coil bracket bolt, pulled number one plug wire off and stuck a spare plug in it and layed it on the block, turned key to run and jumped the 2 lugs on the fenderwell relay to turn it over, yes its sparking, so reconected number one plug wire and crank and crank, still nothing, wont even try to hit..so for the heck of it, i dug a spare coil off the shelf and hooked it up, again disconnected number one wire and stuck spare plug in to verify spark and jumped the lugs on the fenderwell, yup, it sparked but this time the engine tried to fire up!! Oh boy, i hooked number one plug wire back up and jumped in the car and cranked and it hit again, jumped out and gave it a shot of carb cleaner and it started and died, gave her another shot of carb cleaner and cranked and she started up and running good! Dont really understand why, both coils seemed to fire the plug the same but the other one wouldnt start the car..but shes running awesome now! There is 5.8 volts at the coil with the car idling..
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