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Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: blue_stocker] #1217633
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I love ALL types of racing and the wife and I try to
get out and see what we can.. from dirt track roundy
round to the NHRA BUT I havent been to the NHRA since
I retired which was the first run at Norwalk a few
years ago(did get into Capps hospitality tent for
drinks and food)... I want to check out drifting but
havent yet(lots of ladies there LOL)and I have a
friend into it that I have worked on his ride and he
is going pretty good.... like I said... I love motor sports

Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1217634
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http://www.lernerville.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=50

I live about 5 miles from Lernerville Speedway dirt track and chose to be a drag racer. The cost of racing a competitive car is way to high. I hope to attend one of their outlaw shows this year as its been way to long.


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Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: pittsburghracer] #1217635
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As far as NHRA is has priced itself were the average family cannot attended the races anymore. The last one I attended just the price of bottled water for the family was mind boggling. I loved going to Norwalk, Ohio back when it was IHRA. Enter the gate for general admission and a reserved seat could be bought for 5 dollars more.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: pittsburghracer] #1217636
04/19/12 02:34 AM
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its been yrs since i have been to a nhra race but when i did go it was fri morn so i could see the stockers ,i watched the last on line and there was over 20 min, towards the end with nothing going down the track. love going to the dirt track we been thinking of picking up a 4cly car just for fun for $500-$1000 it may not be a top 5 car but it would be fun and there is 3 dirt tracks and 2 paved tracks we could run all with in an 2 hrs of me.........this is my uncle#41

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Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: theraif] #1217637
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well i know some here probably don't appreciate this but what the heck. don't know if this one is mopar powered but the fastest car ever clocked at bristol is (second link). think about it, on a power to weight ratio these are low seven second cars in the 1/4

they say envy is a sin...at least i know it won't be cold where im going. i want to be this guy he's puttin the coal to it... he doesn't hafta worry about breaking out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3bzyeExDMk

yea it's mopar related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kbuv18bLMw

Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: jamesc] #1217638
04/19/12 11:06 AM
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Finally a HUSKER again
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Sprints, A mods, and unlimited late model or "open" street stocks. AWSOME SHOW for sure and well worth the local 10 bucks to get in the door.

20 for a pit pass, just a good ol time!!

Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: Moparnut426] #1217639
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I bought really good seats for my wife and I to go to the first NHRA race at Norwalk when they switched over from IHRA. My plan was to make it a yearly event. Maybe it's just me but after spending all that money, I didn't appreciate having commercials constantly rammed into our earholes the whole time we were in the stands. It was so bad (the speakers seem much worse in the Motz section) that we had to leave our ear plugs in in between rounds and couldn't even talk to each other until we left the grandstands.

When Norwalk contacted me about buying the seats the following year, I took the time to right a letter and actually mail it to them (as apposed to a half-baked email). It pretty much went un-noticed. I'll never go back to the national event there.

I'm sure some of that is the NHRA, but some of it is Norwalk as well.

Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: mike67net] #1217640
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I bought really good seats for my wife and I to go to the first NHRA race at Norwalk when they switched over from IHRA. My plan was to make it a yearly event. Maybe it's just me but after spending all that money, I didn't appreciate having commercials constantly rammed into our earholes the whole time we were in the stands. It was so bad (the speakers seem much worse in the Motz section) that we had to leave our ear plugs in in between rounds and couldn't even talk to each other until we left the grandstands.

When Norwalk contacted me about buying the seats the following year, I took the time to right a letter and actually mail it to them (as apposed to a half-baked email). It pretty much went un-noticed. I'll never go back to the national event there.

I'm sure some of that is the NHRA, but some of it is Norwalk as well.




That is one of my biggest peeves. they won't even play music during the down time. Just crappy commercials. They are definately not interested in doing anything to be entertaining.

Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: HemiDart68] #1217641
04/19/12 02:49 PM
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I have missed the last two years of the nhra circus at Norwalk,I plan on going this year only to see some of my favorite drivers, pick up on the latest in the manufactur's midway and get a big snort of Nitro fumes and go home for two more years, that should just about do me.


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Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: Stanton] #1217642
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Sprint cars is where its at. A damn good, exciting show. Local racing every Friday night. Cheap entry. Reasonably-priced food. Close to home. And it doesn't tie up a whole weekend.




NHRA has put themselves out of the market in too many ways, Nostaglia shows and sprint cars at Eldora pretty much do it for me now.

Joey

Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: Steve1118] #1217643
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Jok Nicholson of DRO has it figured out. Maybe this is why there are so many empty seats..

http://dragracingonline.com/columns/deadon/xiv_4-1.html


I have been a drag racer ( Mopar only )from 1970 on and off until now. And NHRA not only sux but they are rude, stupid, and independent of spectators. They have always acted like they don't need you participation. And guess what they have accomplished their character traits. That is why the stands are empty. I took my wife to a NHRA event at Bristol, tn. about 4 years ago had to set in the top grandstand on the opposite side of the pit side stands because the stands were reserved for just the racers and crew , family etc. Those stands would hold easily 1500 people. But there were only maby 25 or so people in setting there. The security guy was almost enjoying his rude behavior. I decided I would probably see the grave before I paid the entry for one of the force teams. But I will go to every outlaw 10.5, nmca, Mopar event etc I can because, those races are for everyone. The racer and the spectator.

Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: Steve1118] #1217644
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i have not been to a nhra race in years...only drag racing i watch is headsup/grudge racing here in the south...

Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: mike54] #1217645
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i have not been to a nhra race in years...only drag racing i watch is headsup/grudge racing here in the south...


Mike where in Tn are you from? ROB

Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: robnbird] #1217646
04/20/12 01:08 PM
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In a nutshell, the NHRA itself is what's wrong with the NHRA National Events.

As many have said I WILL NOT spend $200+ to go a National Event again (Free tix and parking? MAYBE). I'd rather go to Antioch Speedway and see a 410 or 360 sprinter show in the Dirt. Last time I did that, we spent $75 all told for parking, beer, dinner AND A t-shirt. GREAT racing, too!

Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: cudadoug] #1217647
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Bill Bader has a guarantee at the track if you did not like what you went to see and i believe he is still part owner of the NHRA and his son jr owns the track now so i wonder what effect if any if all those that did not get what thay wanted complained and wanted a refund[guarantee]

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Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: Clanton] #1217648
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I just attended my frist ADRL race yesterday. While entering the gate and remembering this post I was making a joke and ask the ticket taker if I could take beer inside. To my surprise she said sure, beer, water, pop and even a cooler as long as there is no glass. HUMMM!! Then as we entered there were three shuttles waiting. The girls ask if we wanted a ride and of course we said yes. She ask where we wanted to go, she would take us to either side of the track and even dropped us off at the pit we were looking for. As she left I thanked her and she said no problem, she thanked US for attending the race. Maybe NHRA should try something like this. And the tickets were only $15, either side, and in the pits. I could go an about the hospility shown by the staff (Brett, Jenny and even the ADRL t Shirt guy)and racers, thanks fascat and Mr. Skillman, but I think you get the picture.

Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: Frito] #1217649
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Yeah, just watched this and I have to admit, this could get me going!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=tlNtP2kwbPk&NR=1

Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: rook440] #1217650
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I love going to the truck pulls ,those guys rock ,,,,High rpm power Baby ...talk about leanin on pieces lol .....and the most Ive ever paid for admission is 20 bucks with a pit pass ,and the food is cheap and great at the consession stands here in Iowa .....I love it ....Rock on Pullers !!!!!!!



I love truck pulls. The only thing cooler than listening to a high powered engine in a drag car for 8 seconds or less is listening to a labored high powered engine wide open for 15-20 sseconds. Diesel classes are cool, too.


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Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: Steve1118] #1217651
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First is the cost,and after reading some of these comments, it only makes it worse. Especially that you are not even permitted to take bottled water in, that is actully stupid.

The next is one lane race tracks! If after say two rounds, you know that one lane is bad, stop and try to fix the dam thing, why watch 6 or 7 more pairs go down a one lane race track, and you wonder why the ticket sales are down.

Next is, why do we always see all of top fuel and funny car, but when pro stock comes up, we might start in the second or third round of qualifying, these are cars that people relate to on TV.

And last is John Force Racing "Enough is Enough" I use to be a fan of his, but after giving that round to Robert a few years back that was it. I ACTUALLY TRY NOT TO BUY ANY PRODUCT THAT HE ADVERTISES AND THAT GOES FOR THE REST OF HIS FAMILY. Their are so many other racers out their with interesting stories, why don't they interview some of them.

Our family has not been to an NHRA Event as spectators for the past few years, and don't expect to go to any in the near future. HEMI JOE

Re: What is wrong with NHRA National Events [Re: Hemi Joe] #1217652
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I always find it funny that no one attempts to ask the question, "Why are ticket prices so high?"
Do you really think NHRA thinks that much of themselves? I don't, because if you are truly trying to make money, you don't overprice tickets to the point you can't make profit. I think that insurance cost and the cost of running the biggest drag racing organization nationally has caused them to inflate costs everywhere. I also believe that sponsor relationships is one of the reasons why they keep outside food and water out of these events as well as the constant commercials. They want to keep the money in house, please their sponsors and thats what they do. The food costs is parallel to most other entertainment. Amusement parks, carnivals, etc have outrageous food costs, thats just the market, Beer included.

Now, do I agree with prices, no I don't, but I won't sit here and act like there is not a method to the circus and a reason why its done. There's just a bigger picture to look at.

And, there is no way to compare any other organization to the NHRA either, none of them is anywhere near as big nor is trying to be for the fear of managing it properly to have success. They stay small, and keep it small for a reason.


And, the only problem I have with the article is that he is stating the obvious. NHRA has been expensive since I started attending races in 1995 or so when I was a kid. The only thing that has made NHRA less attractive from then to now is less cars and the commercials. I could also do without the entertainment crew personally.

PS: I love drag racing and want to see the best for it. The NHRA does need to change some things but how helpful can an article be that didn't offer any solutions?


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