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Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: Locomotion] #1215928 04/15/12 09:09 PM 04/15/12 09:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,712 Moved to N.E. Tennessee GomangoCuda master
GomangoCuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,712 Moved to N.E. Tennessee	The track seemed much better today but the confusion was worse. Redlights, timeouts youname it, it happened. Even the score board and the announcers got confused in the ps final. The fans were not happy with that. One of the drivers said it was a total cluster- out there. Bet that wasn't on espn. In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: Leon441] #1215929 04/15/12 10:11 PM 04/15/12 10:11 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,031 Raleigh N.C H hemiparts "Missile Pilot"
hemiparts "Missile Pilot" H Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,031 Raleigh N.C	Although I have thought a big $$$ bracket race or index race would be neat four wide. This way it would almost be impossible to be a top end wizard you actually have to have your stuff together, running what you are supposed to run and staying with the tree. Leon i agree a 4 wide bracket race would make you race your car because you can only see the other lane not over the center wall, if you wanted to play games you would have no idea what the other 2 lanes are doing.

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: 65pacecar] #1215930 04/15/12 10:11 PM 04/15/12 10:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 345 iowa wesw enthusiast
wesw enthusiast Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 345 iowa	four joke wide. what a waste of time and money. 598 ci predator

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: SLOW67] #1215931 04/15/12 10:14 PM 04/15/12 10:14 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,031 Raleigh N.C H hemiparts "Missile Pilot"
hemiparts "Missile Pilot" H Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,031 Raleigh N.C	Quote: Quote: I ran there two years ago and watched Bob Reed skate off into the rail at 1000" like he was on glass. I walked the entire track before I would consider making a run. There was no rubber anywhere to be found. At Atco my shoes pull off from sticky surface at the finish line. At Zmax they didn't even stick at the line.Went back for a special NASCAR night the following yearf and it was no better. Everyone I have talked to around here that has ran at Zmax says the same thing. I live about 10 miles from there and have yet to bother to go When Fred and i were there 2 years ago it was BAD !! but they have now started running a weekly bracket / t-n-t race to try to keep the track rubbered up and ready to race. and so far all the folks i know that have been have been happy with the hook and are running the best ###'s of any track that they run at.

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: hemiparts] #1215932 04/15/12 10:37 PM 04/15/12 10:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I dont like it either. I can see the 4 lanes for time trails but thats it. Ron

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: gofish] #1215933 04/15/12 11:25 PM 04/15/12 11:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,497 PA moparacer top fuel
moparacer top fuel Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,497 PA	Quote: That is the biggest reason i don't like, it, drivers having a hard time keeping up with the tree. This race shouldn't even count for points. Danny These pro drivers having trouble with the tree are a joke. For god sakes, 4 Os with a bar through them and guess what. The tree is coming on.... And these guys claiming they are looking at the wrong tree? Really? Seriously? And you would thing the PS drivers would figure out that you need to get your but in and let the "I wanna stage last" crap at home for this race.... 67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119 68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152 414 cid SB Dragster 7.65-174

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: moparacer] #1215934 04/16/12 12:08 AM 04/16/12 12:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey J jamesc master
jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	maybe they should team up with Ringling Brothers and complete the show

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: jamesc] #1215935 04/16/12 12:19 AM 04/16/12 12:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,173 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,173 Park Forest, IL	Quote: maybe they should team up with Ringling Brothers and complete the show Bruton will try that. The crap he comes up with makes Broadway Bob look like an amateur. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: 65pacecar] #1215936 04/16/12 12:35 AM 04/16/12 12:35 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,771 York,Pa S Slap Shot top fuel
Slap Shot top fuel S Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,771 York,Pa

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: Slap Shot] #1215937 04/16/12 03:04 AM 04/16/12 03:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A. M mike s top fuel
mike s top fuel M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,668 Mi,U.S.A.	Only thing missing were the jet cars and the wheelie trucks. Leave the gun.......take the Cannoli's....Mike

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: mike s] #1215938 04/16/12 06:10 AM 04/16/12 06:10 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 480 Texas R racer_amx mopar
racer_amx mopar R Joined: May 2004 Posts: 480 Texas	Im not too happy about it but meh what are you gonna do

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: hemiparts] #1215939 04/16/12 12:39 PM 04/16/12 12:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	Quote: Quote: Quote: I ran there two years ago and watched Bob Reed skate off into the rail at 1000" like he was on glass. I walked the entire track before I would consider making a run. There was no rubber anywhere to be found. At Atco my shoes pull off from sticky surface at the finish line. At Zmax they didn't even stick at the line.Went back for a special NASCAR night the following yearf and it was no better. Everyone I have talked to around here that has ran at Zmax says the same thing. I live about 10 miles from there and have yet to bother to go When Fred and i were there 2 years ago it was BAD !! but they have now started running a weekly bracket / t-n-t race to try to keep the track rubbered up and ready to race. and so far all the folks i know that have been have been happy with the hook and are running the best ###'s of any track that they run at. Best ####'s??? Here is a reply by Michael Beard to a quote from classracer.com "Quote: Originally Posted by RJDUDEK Q. That 4wide track has a 1% down hill after 1/2 way? True.or False. What the percentage is, I don't know, but the track is visibly downhill. (look at the brown wall between the stands and the track) When it rained last year, the water ran down the track. (pretty smart, actually!)

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: Locomotion] #1215940 04/16/12 01:27 PM 04/16/12 01:27 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ M maximum entropy master
maximum entropy master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ	we don't want racing. we want results. make it 16 wide and be done with it. single elimination, no qualifying (fastest 16 from the previous race get in). heck, run a couple times a week and finish the whole season in a month. very efficient. do it. for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: 65pacecar] #1215941 04/16/12 06:11 PM 04/16/12 06:11 PM
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Sixpak master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,840 The Swamp	They should do 4 wide like the old days - BRING BACK A 32 CAR FIELD, and make 'em 4 wide IN A 2 WIDE STRIP...

Re: "4" wide Racing???? Opinions [Re: Sixpak] #1215942 04/16/12 09:31 PM 04/16/12 09:31 PM
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dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,828 MI, usa	We were going to visit friends in NC on this weekend so we attended. The noise is incredible from the fuel cars. Very nice facility. Did I care for the 4 wide, no. Personally I liked watching local 1/8 mile at Moorsville the last time I was down here. The NHRA deal doesn't do much for me. First time I've seen the Mopar Pro Stockers in person,UGLY. I still root for them though. Doug

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