Re: A833 tricks and modifications
[Re: mshred]
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Here is a good website for some 4 speed info...Tim One thing I have not found yet is the gaps for the selective snap rings, I read the factory service manual and it says to check the countershaft for .029" endplay but nothing for the speed gears. Any answers out there? http://skylab.org/~zetan/van/np833/
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
[Re: astjp2]
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04/15/12 10:13 AM
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How did you bevel the edges? File or grinder? Tim
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did the detent mod that stanton posted last night to two different covers. Did one at a time to compare, and yes, there is a difference even just moving the detents by hand
In the process I was also able to find that pin between the two detent balls in my sidecover was missing this entire time I was running the transmission good thing I finally got this side cover apart
a die grinder...I would post a pic if I could, but my camera took a dump on me a while ago
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
[Re: fourgearsavoy]
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04/17/12 10:10 AM
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Gus, That shaft spent exactly 12 minutes on the bench till I got all the papers burned. Then it was off to the lathe to check it. It has been in a unit out the door since the day after I got it! Thanks though. It was a pleasure getting the shaft from you! Jamie
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
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04/18/12 08:42 PM
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I can't wait to get my own street HEMI trans back in the car after all the slick shift,pro-shift,face-plate race boxes I have had in the car the past ten years Glad you liked the shaft it was one of the better ones I have in stock Gus
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
[Re: skep419]
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01/28/19 05:01 PM
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I see this post goes back a few years??? Anyway, about 2 years ago I decided to try something different with my trans. Bare in mind that my car is mostly street driven, but sees about ten races or so at the track each year. I had run stock tranny's, Pro shifted 18 splines and slick shifted tranny's without the brass syncro rings. The tranny that has been in my car now for the past 2 years or so is a slick shifted 18 spline with the brass syncro rings. The main gears for 3, 4 and 2 are slick shifted.(every other clutching tooth removed). The 1/2 slider and the 3/4 slider are also slick shifted, BUT they are a stock slider for the newer syncro assemblies ('70 and up). I am also using the detent keys and springs installed so they are on the teeth of the sliders. This way, driving on the street is normal, yet when power shifting at the track, the wider "GATE" (with the missing teeth), makes for a very fast shift without messing up the gears. Absolutly no grinding when street driven.
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4 speed street legal. Best time 10.99 @ 124 mph on 93 octane pump gas @ 3926# total weight
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
[Re: mshred]
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01/28/19 07:46 PM
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Back in the early 70's Dick Landy used to have a traveling seminar where he would ago around the country to various Dodge dealers . I went to one where he had a couple of cars displayed . The only thing I remember is about the slick shifting of the 833 4 speed as thats what I was interested in. As noted in this post early on how it was done and thats what I did . It definitely improved the shifting of the transmission but also wear on the slider and syncro teeth. When I learned about Liberty Gears had come up with the PRO SHIFTED gear set up for the 833 I sent the gears into them to have them modified. That was like night and day. With my Hurst Super shifter the full throttle shifted were made with no missed shifts. Maintenance was minimal . As I up graded to a larger stroker engine , Liberty said I was going to have a problem. Why', I had ran this transmission for years without fail behind my mild built 440 . Well, they were correct, third run BOOM!!!!!!. So not to be defeated I ordered more gears and replaced the bearings again. Third pass BOOM!!!!!!! again this time twisting off the main shaft. Rebuilt it again and sold it shifter and all. Out in a Doug Nash liberty pro shifted transmission . To my surprise , a lot of parts are the same as the 833.
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
[Re: mshred]
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01/29/19 01:28 AM
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I never had a problem with the Hurst Super Shifter. It was the original one that came out in the early 70's . Just sold it off last spring with the Pro shifted transmission. The shifter didn't come with a reverse lock out until later. It definitely was a add on deal but it worked. It came with a piece if 1/4" threaded rod and a piece of silver plastic hose for a handle. Nice touch from Hurst in those days. LOL Never had the opportunity to shift a Long shifter. I have a Vertigate now which shifts well but I'm not really fond it.
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
[Re: rowin4]
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01/29/19 02:09 PM
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I've been using the super shifter 3 forever, it seems. Did have a problem years back with hang ups going into second at full throttle. Did some "tweeking" with the shifter arm adjusters. I staggered the 3/4 arm slightly (1/8") toward third gear. Problem solved!!! Why? Don't know? But the problem going into second was cured. And, going into third was very sure and smooth.
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4 speed street legal. Best time 10.99 @ 124 mph on 93 octane pump gas @ 3926# total weight
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