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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
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Do nothing.
I shift a STOCK 833 to low 11's on slicks...and drive it a ton on the street. I power shift it at around 6,200rpm.
Might seem like a real dumb question, Ive never power shifted my 833, too afraid to break stuff, so is this really how it sounds, you dont clutch at all, just back off throttle a touch and pound it into gear?
Seems like a lof of damage could happen if the syncros werent cut...
Kasey
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
[Re: Stanton]
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04/11/12 12:07 PM
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Here's what you want to do ...
use the steel forks - the brass one's have a tendency to snap off at the shaft. Since the steel forks only came on the slider style side covers they are made with an additional smaller shaft on the ends - you just cut those off.
on the detents you want to round off the sharp edge off on both sides of the neutral position and do the same on the leading edge on the 1, 2, 3 and 4. This is so the detent ball will slide more easily when you shift. DO NOT grind the edge where the ball stops!
The thing will shift so smooth you won't believe it.
Stanton, Do you have any pictures of this mod, and where/what to cut grind? Im thinking of doing some mods to mine.
Kasey
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
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04/11/12 02:01 PM
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Stanton, Do you have any pictures of this mod, and where/what to cut grind? Im thinking of doing some mods to mine.
Unfortunately no pics but here's a "rough" sketch.
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
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04/11/12 03:49 PM
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Brass was just more "apt" to break. I have never run them just out of fear. But you and your dad run damn hard so if there still there well...I dont have a good answer.  The liberty fork has a thick flange on one side vs a shallower flange on both for the factory piece. The face plate slider is also much "bigger" in diameter than a pro shift setup so you dont have the room on the slider side like factory.
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
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04/11/12 07:43 PM
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The Liberty side cover mod and steel forks are a cheap and worth while modification that really doesn't affect anything else  I really think you should faceplate third and fourth gear and leave first and second alone for a street box  A good shifter and linkage is the key to clean shifts,for an H-pattern shifter get the Hurst Super Shifter III, for a V-gate go for the Long shifter and fab up your own linkage with heim joints and steel tube shift rods Gus 
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
[Re: Stanton]
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04/11/12 08:02 PM
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Stanton, Do you have any pictures of this mod, and where/what to cut grind? Im thinking of doing some mods to mine.
Unfortunately no pics but here's a "rough" sketch.
This is a great idea! Has anyone else done anything like this before? I've never really taken a good look at the edges of those detents to see how sharp they really are
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
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04/11/12 08:05 PM
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Here are a couple pics of the side cover stuff. You'll notice one fork, 3/4, says liberty on it. Look at it in the comparison as it is slightly different, used that with the faceplate setup stuff.
Hope these help.
Two stock ones, as you can see the affore mentioned nub has already been shortened on the one.
The knock in seal, they are green scotseals. You just have to be careful that the shaft doesnt tear the lip as you push them through.
Thanks for the pics Andre! Do you know if Liberty did the smoothing mod on your detents on the sidecover as well? The HD mods sound good, but gotta see if I can swing the cash right now. I wonder how much those liberty steel forks are- if im gonna spend money on forks, I'd rather get theirs if they are similar in price
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
[Re: Moparnut426]
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04/11/12 08:06 PM
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I just sopke with Paul at liberty, and I have to say he is one of the most helpfull guys I have ever talked to. He even sent me a cell phone picture of a tool he made to push the reverse shaft out of the case to replace that pesky O ring.
80 bucks is all he charges to do that HD kit to the side cover, and he gave me a few other "pointer"
Great guy!!
Did he say how long it would take to send the cover and get it back? I've always been kinda leary about them since I know they say a certain time but you don't see your stuff back for months.
And what other "pointers" did he give you...care to share? 
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Re: A833 tricks and modifications
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04/11/12 08:09 PM
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My experience withe the brass fork is that the shaft will sheer off of the fork at the most inopportune time.
 Been there, done that  Get the steel forks and cut the nubs off and use them in the early cover OP, what fluids are you suing in your boxes? If not straight ATF try that 
I actually planned on using some form of gear oil this year. I used Castrol Type F ATF. I thought that I could benefit though from the extra thickness of some 75W90 weight stuff for lubrication. I figure once its warm it should perform just like the ATF 
Unless there is an ATF brand that works really well? I tried synchromesh last year and my trans grinded on every shift with it, even at lower speeds.
This thread really blew up! I like it! Hopefully there are some more tricks that come out of the woodwork
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