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Re: I'm lost...hesitation issue...bad acc pump symptoms?? [Re: magnum440d100] #1210699
04/07/12 10:02 AM
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Since the 360 cam is likely bigger than the 318 cam, then the vacuum signal would be a little weaker. That could explain why the existing "flat spot" got worse. Unless someone suggested it and I missed it, is there any way to get an accellerator pump squirter with bigger nozzles, or finding another one to drill out with wire drills? Change in small increments, like .003" - .005".

Changing the pump arm position changes the total volume of fuel delivered throughout the travel. (longer or shorter squirt) The pump squirter nozzles determine the "rate" of delivery. i.e.: bigger squirters will squirt more, but for a shorter time.

Carb may even need to be jetted a size or two bigger, which could help the "flat spot". But that shouldn't be used to actually cure the "flat spot" because then you'll be too rich the rest of the time.

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Re: I'm lost...hesitation issue...bad acc pump symptoms?? [Re: magnum440d100] #1210700
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I have a slight dead spot off the line too and i was told to measure clearance of accelerator pump arm and adjustment screw then up size the squirters by 3 each time.It was explained that the carb is getting too much air at (idle) with low vac and stumbles until the engine gets enough fuel to rev up and increase vac. Also he said the main jets don't have anything to do with low rpm when you are launching the car.

The vac reading seams high?

Re: I'm lost...hesitation issue...bad acc pump symptoms?? [Re: Secret Chimp] #1210701
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Throw that BBD or whatever out the window and have fun :P




The wisest statement of them all in this whole thread!

To me, this sounds like a tuning/mechanical issue, not immediately a carb issue (as is the case in 98% of these kinds of posts). Throwing parts and money at the symptoms does not correct the problem. Proper understanding and diagnosis does.

Re: I'm lost...hesitation issue...bad acc pump symptoms?? [Re: 79powerwagon] #1210702
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Throw that BBD or whatever out the window and have fun :P




The wisest statement of them all in this whole thread!

To me, this sounds like a tuning/mechanical issue, not immediately a carb issue (as is the case in 98% of these kinds of posts). Throwing parts and money at the symptoms does not correct the problem. Proper understanding and diagnosis does.




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Re: I'm lost...hesitation issue...bad acc pump symptoms?? [Re: Secret Chimp] #1210703
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This is a free fix if it works so try it first.

If it is low speed just off idle hesitation/lean spot, that is created when you hold the throttle at a slight postition with out actuating the accelerator pump (like when you are pulling out of the driveway easily).

If this is the problem, try richening the idle mixture screws half a turn each. If it gets better, do an additional eighth of turn each until it goes away.

The explanation of this is the main wells are not active yet because of lack of engine speed, and the accelerator pump isnt moving so it cannot supply fuel, the only thing left to fix would be the idle mixture screws or idle system.

Ive fixed a lot of hesitations this way, just try it and see if it works, you wont be out anything and it only takes minutes to see if it worked.

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Re: I'm lost...hesitation issue...bad acc pump symptoms?? [Re: kilroy] #1210704
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Quote:

This is a free fix if it works so try it first.

If it is low speed just off idle hesitation/lean spot, that is created when you hold the throttle at a slight postition with out actuating the accelerator pump (like when you are pulling out of the driveway easily).

If this is the problem, try richening the idle mixture screws half a turn each. If it gets better, do an additional eighth of turn each until it goes away.

The explanation of this is the main wells are not active yet because of lack of engine speed, and the accelerator pump isnt moving so it cannot supply fuel, the only thing left to fix would be the idle mixture screws or idle system.

Ive fixed a lot of hesitations this way, just try it and see if it works, you wont be out anything and it only takes minutes to see if it worked.




the squirters were too small on my car,with the 2800 stall,4:11 gears it needed a huge dump of fuel,first i went to 32's from 29's,as soon as i rechecked my accel pump and installed the 35's the problem was gone.

Re: I'm lost...hesitation issue...bad acc pump symptoms?? [Re: 79powerwagon] #1210705
04/11/12 07:48 PM
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Quote:

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Throw that BBD or whatever out the window and have fun :P




The wisest statement of them all in this whole thread!

To me, this sounds like a tuning/mechanical issue, not immediately a carb issue (as is the case in 98% of these kinds of posts). Throwing parts and money at the symptoms does not correct the problem. Proper understanding and diagnosis does.




I'm actually waiting for another set of intake gaskets/thermostat gasket so I can put the 4bbl intake on. I'm done messing with this 2bbl. I borrowed a friends 2bbl (same EXACT carb) and she runs like a sewing machine. I am borrowing it for the time being until the gaskets come in

Re: I'm lost...hesitation issue...bad acc pump symptoms?? [Re: magnum440d100] #1210706
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