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Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T #1209257
04/03/12 09:07 PM
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The Project: Restore this 71 Challenger back to its former glory.

The Crew: Me (Stephen Sigel) and the occasional spare hand to lift things.

Basic Info: Restore the car with original options but making some performance upgrades. The car will be changed over to a four speed and upgraded to disc brakes. The Basic goal is to make the car a show car worthy driver for the owner.

The Car: Originally the car is a Real 71 Challenger R/T 383 Auto FJ6 car. Since the original drive train is gone we are going to change over the trans to a four speed and the motor plans are undecided.

Here is the car as the project gets started...








Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209258
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Striped out and Rust Revealed...









Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209259
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Braced the inside of the car up...





The new car in boxes, Special Thanks to ROCPAR for the delivery of the parts...




Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209260
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Front Frame Jig built...





The Donor Rails...



Blasted...


Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209261
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The Rails Are not perfect needed some work...

Before...



After...



Before...



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Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209262
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The New rails Next to the Car...



Front End Cut Off...



Cowl Removed...



Complete Rail and Front Floor Gone...






Addressing some rust on the Inner Rocker...

Before...



After...



More to Come

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209263
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Keep up the good work. Is the Young Gun Project done?

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: jdr2483] #1209264
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wow you sure do like the big projects! looks like a good start though.


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Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: aspenrt360] #1209265
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Wow! I also need to do some front frame rail repairs. What gauge/thickness of metal are you using?

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: larry4406] #1209266
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sweet!!

post up a Buildsheet or fendertag,, love to see options!! jc

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looks as if you have a donor car in the weeds!!!

awsome your saving such a COOL optioned car!! it will be a show stopper!! lots of work,, but worth it!! LOL my kinda project!!!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: 68427vette] #1209267
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Very ambitious!!

Not trying to hijack your thread, but this is an argument I have with my Mopar resto crowd friends. You have a pile of parts that's 90% of a car, call it pile A, and the car in another pile that's 10% of a car, pile B. The only thing that will ever be original about pile B is 10%, the rest is Taiwan steel and repop parts. Everybody is okay with bringing half of China to pile B, but mention rebody, and everybody freaks. If you take the 10% useable stuff from pile B, and put it on another car, doesn't that make it more original than repop Taiwan sheet metal could ever be? The end results are the same, just one is original as Detroit intended, and the other is a modern reproduction. Maybe I'm wrong, we argue about it a lot. Just wanted your take on it.


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Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: CJD AUTOMOTIVE] #1209268
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Well,, my take is , he s doing everything possible to save the car(restoration), and NOT cutting cowl number and radiator support out and placing it on a donor car(a rebody) lets not hijack this thread, as this topic will always be brought up!! and has been 50 times a year.. there is a clear distinction to the two.
Why we care?? i dont.. only the owner,, and future buyer should care.. my 2 cents.

jc

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: jdr2483] #1209269
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jdr2483 Yes the 71 Bee is done, still needs some tweaking. Heres a pic...


larry4406 I'm using some 3/16" galvanized for the repairs on the rails.

CJD Automotive Everyones entitled to their own position on the topic. My opinion is simple, this is a restoration, not a rebody. Follow the thread to watch it, if it were a rebody there would be 10 pics tops of metal work, cut splice, cut splice. Yes new metal is from tawain but has better technology involved in its production and is 40 years newer. Lets end that there, go to general if you want to rant some more...

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209270
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Quote:

jdr2483 Yes the 71 Bee is done, still needs some tweaking. Heres a pic...


larry4406 I'm using some 3/16" galvanized for the repairs on the rails.

CJD Automotive Everyones entitled to their own position on the topic. My opinion is simple, this is a restoration, not a rebody. Follow the thread to watch it, if it were a rebody there would be 10 pics tops of metal work, cut splice, cut splice. Yes new metal is from tawain but has better technology involved in its production and is 40 years newer. Lets end that there, go to general if you want to rant some more...




Completely agree with the above! Do you have a post with the updated SuperBee photos? I followed your thread and didn't see the finished product - would love to see more shots of the Bee!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: CuriousYella70] #1209271
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Sorry guys, wasn't trying to "rant". Just wanted somebody else's opinion. I got it. With an explanation point.

Going to the general now to see if someone over their will kick me in the nuts too.


Craig Scholl
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Jacksonville, FL
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Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: CJD AUTOMOTIVE] #1209272
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Quote:

Do you have a post with the updated SuperBee photos? I followed your thread and didn't see the finished product - would love to see more shots of the Bee!






You never posted the finished pics. The thread just kind of died. You need post one last update.

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: HemiChallenger] #1209273
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Great project, amazing that with all that rust the area under the battery tray was that clean! i wonder why someone cut that piece out of the cowl? To us to fill in an A/C car opening? Good luck


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Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: jeff968] #1209274
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I'm all for this.
There will be another cool car driving around when this Challenger is finished. Why scrap it? Here is an opportunity for someone to advance their knowledge in restoration, stay out of trouble (aside from all the tetnis shots he'll need working with that much rust), and put a Dodge Challenger back into circulation. No doubt, there will be enough documentation available for all to see, leaving little doubt what was done to this car.


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Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: new bee] #1209275
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Awesome job so far! Its build threads like this that give me/us the inspiration to tackle a restoration of a rusty Mopar. Keep up the great work and pics!

Re: Project Rust Bucket: 1971 Challenger R/T [Re: NV69B7RR] #1209276
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Thanks for the kind words guys! Ill try and get another post on the Young Gun thread here shortly. Im real busy these days with multiple projects and work. Updates to come sometime this evening...

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