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Re: Who's got the recipe for a hot running 383.
[Re: moparmojo]
#1187829
02/28/12 11:11 PM
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This what I put together although parts can be changed around as needed.
383 standard bore and stroke with flat tops-10.0:1
915 heads w/shim steel head gaskets, ported and polished w/2.14/1.81 valves-comp cams springs retainers,locks.
MoPar cam and lifters #4452993
Stamped steel rockers 1.5 ratio
Double Roller timing chain
Holley Street Dominator
Carter 750 Competition carb w/electric choke
Factory Distributor with Pertronic conversion and coil
Aluminum Vaned water pump
Champion 3 row Radiator w/electric pusher fan
Headman Elite headers
2 1/2" exhaust
Automatic trans
2500 converter
Maunual, auto valve body
8 3/4 rear with 3.23 suregrip
SS springs
68 Barracuda Fastback
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Re: Who's got the recipe for a hot running 383.
[Re: moparmojo]
#1187830
02/28/12 11:20 PM
02/28/12 11:20 PM
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Warrenton, VA
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Nice car! I would go light weight pistons, balance and clearance the motor, deck the block, Edelbrock heads, high energy cam, recurved distributor advance, 170 thermostat, flexilite fiberglas fan or clutch and stock 7 blade #216 fan, aluminum intake and Edelbrock carb...3.91 or 4.10 rear, exhaust system. If you want it to be factory appearing, I would stick with the cast iron intake, go with a 440 Carter carb and maybe different heads but you could stick with thealuminum heads and just paint them.
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Re: Who's got the recipe for a hot running 383.
[Re: Red63440]
#1187831
02/28/12 11:28 PM
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Did you have to notch the top of the bores for those size valves?
56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
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Re: Who's got the recipe for a hot running 383.
[Re: moparmojo]
#1187833
02/29/12 11:25 AM
02/29/12 11:25 AM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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Depends on how "hot" you want it. For a mild street car (low 13's) I'd have the block checked if it's good go get a used 440 crank and have some fun. If you want to re-use yours You'll need to have the block decked to get the compression up. I think most off the shelf pistions aren't going to get you anyting more than 9:1. Even if you use those you could have the heads milled .030, Order a rebuild kit from Jegs or Summit, Call Scoot Brown (or any other custom cam guy) and pick up a 520ish hydro cam, 1.5 roller rockers, stealth heads, RPM intake, Headers (1 3/4 should be fine) RPM intake w/ 750DP and you should be good to go. If you use a storker crank you'll have 431 cubes instead of 383.
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Re: Who's got the recipe for a hot running 383.
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02/29/12 11:48 AM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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The best recipe I've found is: Add 1 440, stir well, not shaken, top with 6 pak...enjoy 
something like this?? 
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Re: Who's got the recipe for a hot running 383.
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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02/29/12 07:31 PM
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missouri, USA
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That thought had crossed my mind as well. I do have a 440crank but wasn't sure what else I would need to make it a stroker or what alterations to the block are necessary. Can I just use a 440 crank and clearance the cylinder wall sides? ...and do I need special bearings or valve train parts?
Last edited by moparmojo; 02/29/12 07:32 PM.
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Re: Who's got the recipe for a hot running 383.
[Re: moparmojo]
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03/28/12 02:00 AM
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CompSyn
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I’m in the process of building a 383 for a numbers matching 69 Road Runner. I considered going the stroker rout but then talked myself out of it. It just depends on what the individual wants. Me, I’m going the nostalgia rout with a mild 383 build. This is what I got cooked up so far: - Stock block (square decked) - Stock crank (Balanced reciprocating assembly) - Stock rods w/ARP bolts - Stock 906 heads (non-ported with stock valves) - Stock pistons if possible. If not semi-custom Diamonds - “Mr.6Pack” camshaft - DP4B Edelbrock intake - Holley 3310-1 780-cfm vacuum secondary - Stock distributor with pertronics kit - Stock oil pump with Hemi 6-quart oil pan - HP exhaust manifolds - Stock 69 Road Runner Torque Converter - 3.91:1 gears This is practically an old Chrysler Performance Parts Service recipe with exemption of the camshaft and exhaust. It is what it is, it runs what it runs, someone will always be faster... 
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Re: Who's got the recipe for a hot running 383.
[Re: moparpollack]
#1187843
03/28/12 06:13 PM
03/28/12 06:13 PM
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Did you have to notch the top of the bores for those size valves?
One doesn't have to , but notching the bore on the exhaust side would be a good idea, the Max wedge had 1.88 exh valves and they notched the bore.
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Re: Who's got the recipe for a hot running 383.
[Re: GTX MATT]
#1187844
03/28/12 06:14 PM
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Here is what I had in a 383 Dart. I rebuilt the eng with all new bearings and rings and honed the cylinders slightly oversize to get them all round. Then I knurled the stock pistons and used .005 over rings. I had to file fit the pistons for .001 wall clearence.
So it was a stock shortblock
452 heads we bowl blended and cut for 9.5 comp and used Comp single springs
MP .484 cam on a 104 centerline
Stock rockers and lifters with shims under the rocker shafts for proper lifter preload
Performer RPM intake with a 750 DP
Stock dist I recurved and MP orange ECU
CPPA headers
This was in a 72 Dart that weighs 3550 lbs with my son in it. It has 3.91 gears and a 727 with a manual valve body and a Turbo Action 10" tight 3000 converter. And used G/60-15 McCreary tires. Ran a best ever of 12.31 @ 110. Ron
Hey 383 man where did you get the .005 oversized rings?
Any place that sells rings , 4.250 bore file fit rings ... 4.255 ....
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Re: Who's got the recipe for a hot running 383.
[Re: LaRoy Engines]
#1187845
03/28/12 06:17 PM
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For your consideration. We pulled this outta the junk pile and built it.
+.030" 383, stock forged crank, stock rods & bolts, cast pistons flycut with die grinder, 8:1 compression.
Ported 906 heads.
eBay used Crane Gold Race 1.5 rockers.
Used cup and ball pushrods recut to length.
Hughs solid flat tappet, 242/248, .543"/.563"
Edelbrock Victor 383 intake.
The old trusty 950 cfm 4150 Quick Fuel.
RPM.......LB-FT........HP
3600......348.........239
4000......341.........260
4500......369.........316
5000......371.........354
5500......412.........432
5600......426*.......454
6000......414.........473
6500......398.........493
6600......401.........504*
Did it get installed in anything, if so what did it run and what did it weigh ???
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Re: Who's got the recipe for a hot running 383.
[Re: moparmojo]
#1187846
03/28/12 07:31 PM
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Can I just use a 440 crank and clearance the cylinder wall sides? ...and do I need special bearings or valve train parts?
You would need..........
a 440/413/426wedge crank to cut down the main bearing journals and the crankshaft counterwieghts.
Then it will take 383/400 mainbearings.
No special valvetrain until you get fancy and start decking/squaring the block, milling heads or running a solid tappet cam.
Just my opinion, but that Charger is getting into a hefty range. There's no way I'd run a single-plane with a 383 unless you were really going to gear it up (like 4.10 or more)
Go dual-plane, 650-700 carb, headers, a cam with 224-228 duration at .050, and as loose of a converter that you can afford. As mentioned piston choice is very poor, so some closed chamber heads and some block decking is a good idea. Then cast replacement pistons could be a hassle if no valve reliefs.
Muscle Motors sells a stroker kit. Pick your heads, check the cc's, make a phone call.........done. 
R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04
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Re: Who's got the recipe for a hot running 383.
[Re: GTX MATT]
#1187847
03/28/12 09:53 PM
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Balt. Md
383man
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Here is what I had in a 383 Dart. I rebuilt the eng with all new bearings and rings and honed the cylinders slightly oversize to get them all round. Then I knurled the stock pistons and used .005 over rings. I had to file fit the pistons for .001 wall clearence.
So it was a stock shortblock
452 heads we bowl blended and cut for 9.5 comp and used Comp single springs
MP .484 cam on a 104 centerline
Stock rockers and lifters with shims under the rocker shafts for proper lifter preload
Performer RPM intake with a 750 DP
Stock dist I recurved and MP orange ECU
CPPA headers
This was in a 72 Dart that weighs 3550 lbs with my son in it. It has 3.91 gears and a 727 with a manual valve body and a Turbo Action 10" tight 3000 converter. And used G/60-15 McCreary tires. Ran a best ever of 12.31 @ 110. Ron
Hey 383 man where did you get the .005 oversized rings?
I believe I bought that set from Mancini. But as John says most everyone sells them that I know of. Ron
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