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Stupid fender tag question #1174761 02/08/12 06:25 PM 02/08/12 06:25 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 616 TP Exit 7, NJ, USA DANA60 OP mopar
DANA60 OP mopar Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 616 TP Exit 7, NJ, USA	OK, like most of us, I like to look at fender tags for the thrill of the hunt. So this one might be a stupid question. How come fender tags don't read power steering on the tags, or do they? I've seen a bunch of cars that have power with no such code. What is the code and is it always there?

Re: Stupid fender tag question [Re: DANA60] #1174762 02/08/12 06:40 PM 02/08/12 06:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,516 Las Vegas, NV 6bblgt I Live Here
6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,516 Las Vegas, NV	The fender tag is basically the instructions for building & trimming the painted body. A broadcast sheet wouldn't survive the welding, dip & paint process and remain readable. NO - power steering would NOT be coded on a fender tag.

Re: Stupid fender tag question [Re: 6bblgt] #1174763 02/08/12 06:48 PM 02/08/12 06:48 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 616 TP Exit 7, NJ, USA DANA60 OP mopar
DANA60 OP mopar Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 616 TP Exit 7, NJ, USA	OK that sounds right. So without build sheet, tough luck. I do see that a power brake code is there, how 'bout that?

Re: Stupid fender tag question [Re: DANA60] #1174764 02/08/12 07:08 PM 02/08/12 07:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,516 Las Vegas, NV 6bblgt I Live Here
6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,516 Las Vegas, NV	Fender tag layout was changed/modified from year-to-year, plant-to-plant & model-to-model. To comprehend why a specific code was used (wasn't used) on a specific model year car you would have to ask a very specific question. Using NEVER & ALWAYS usually causes problems/issues.

Re: Stupid fender tag question [Re: DANA60] #1174765 02/08/12 07:38 PM 02/08/12 07:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,015 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,015 U.S.S.A.	Quote: OK that sounds right. So without build sheet, tough luck. I do see that a power brake code is there, how 'bout that? How about what ? Also which codes make the tag are plant dependent.

Re: Stupid fender tag question [Re: JohnRR] #1174766 02/08/12 11:30 PM 02/08/12 11:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,992 midwest 6 68427vette top fuel
68427vette top fuel 6 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,992 midwest	b41 b51 i think?? brakes

Re: Stupid fender tag question [Re: 68427vette] #1174767 02/08/12 11:59 PM 02/08/12 11:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,652 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,652 Hamtramck, PA	Occasionally power steering is coded on a fender tag - if it is part of an option group. A04 from the 1969 - 1971 model years included power steering as an example.

Re: Stupid fender tag question [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1174768 02/09/12 01:56 AM 02/09/12 01:56 AM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa 69CoronetRT master
69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	Quote: Occasionally power steering is coded on a fender tag - if it is part of an option group. A04 from the 1969 - 1971 model years included power steering as an example. Tilt -A-Scope steering column would be another secondary indication of power steering. Most A04 packages did included PS but there are a couple of examples of Basic Groups that don't. The Imperial doesn't because PS was standard on the model. 69 Valiant Basic Group doesn't include PS either. Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

Re: Stupid fender tag question [Re: 69CoronetRT] #1174769 02/09/12 02:38 AM 02/09/12 02:38 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,127 Ramona, CA NicksGarage master
NicksGarage master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,127 Ramona, CA	Isn't the tag for color, trim and things that require certain body part configurations, holes and brackets?

Re: Stupid fender tag question [Re: NicksGarage] #1174770 02/09/12 03:12 AM 02/09/12 03:12 AM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa 69CoronetRT master
69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	Quote: Isn't the tag for color, trim and things that require certain body part configurations, holes and brackets? Basically yes. It is curious as to why there was so much variation in what was coded between plants. Why is LR so sparse yet other plants list a lot of things? Why do C bodies have a different coding format than A bodies? You would think the way cars were built was fairly standardized between plants. Why weren't fender tags? Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

Re: Stupid fender tag question [Re: 68427vette] #1174771 02/09/12 06:17 AM 02/09/12 06:17 AM
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472 R/T SE master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,131 across the river from Portland...	Quote: b41 b51 i think?? brakes What year did they start putting both these codes on cars'? More specifically St. Louis cars. I have 2-3 tags from St.L '72 showing both codes so I figured it must be '72? [color:"purple"]HELP SUPPORT THE REGISTRIES.All cars matter. 1970 Charger Registry I like to sleep For I'm walking in my dreams. Live life like every DAY is your last! Chrysler R/T Club[/color]

Re: Stupid fender tag question [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1174772 02/09/12 10:58 AM 02/09/12 10:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,015 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,015 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Occasionally power steering is coded on a fender tag - if it is part of an option group. A04 from the 1969 - 1971 model years included power steering as an example. I'm pretty sure my 69 Bee is A04 , lynch rd. built , but it doesn't have power steering . It does have A31 , Same with my 69 Dart GTS , A 04 , A31 , no power steering .

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