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Oil Pans- What's correct? #1167030
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I thought my car had the original Oil Pan, but it doesn't. It's a 70 E-body, 440 + 6.
What are identifiers of the different years, capacities?
What is the significance of the 3-digit number on them?
Who makes the the best repro's? (I know I had seen someone at the Nats with them)
What would I expect to pay for an good original?

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Re: Oil Pans- What's correct? [Re: RP's R/T's] #1167032
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My original 70 440-6 doesn't have any #'s on the pan and it's the same 6 qt pan as the hemi's used in 70. I've seen several with 402 pans on them but I don't believe that's "correct".

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Yes, no numbers on a '70-'71 440HP, 440-6 and Hemi pan. The pan holds 6 qts with filter. MP reproduction is nice, P4529884. Make sure you get the correct 3/8" strainer to go with it.

Re: Oil Pans- What's correct? [Re: floyd] #1167034
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http://www.rosevillemoparts.com/reference_enginetrans3.php

402?

Looks like Tony has them for $145




The 402 is the 69 and older pan

No numbers on a 70 sixpack pan - the repo is close but not perfect

Re: Oil Pans- What's correct? [Re: Morty426] #1167035
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In '70 & '71 - the HEMI, 440+6 & 440HP used the same (no number) oil pan in E and B-bodies.

The 402 pan was used in '69 on b-bodies (earlier also) with 383s, 440HP, & 440+6 - it remained in use for '70 & '71 on E and B-bodies with 383s.

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I inspected a 70 Six Pak 'Cuda for a guy in California late last year and had to tell him it was not numbers matching after he put it on a lift so I could easily see the VIN number. To my suprise it had an 893 pan on it! I told him I would buy him a repro pan and change them out on my dime, he declined...


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Re: Oil Pans- What's correct? [Re: Rhinodart] #1167037
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Plymouth's gonna getcha! There are 3 things that will live forever, cockroaches, Keith Richards, & slant 6 Dusters 71 gtx 440 4speed air grabber blue on blue with white vinyl roof
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Is this what is available from Mopar?
Any modifications that need to be done to be accurate?

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Is this what is available from Mopar?
Any modifications that need to be done to be accurate?




Yes and yes, paint it .

Re: Oil Pans- What's correct? [Re: B5 Bee] #1167040
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Yes, no numbers on a '70-'71 440HP, 440-6 and Hemi pan. The pan holds 6 qts with filter. MP reproduction is nice, P4529884. Make sure you get the correct 3/8" strainer to go with it.




Will an original 383 402 oil pan 3/8" pick-up work on a MP Hemi oil pan?

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Yes, no numbers on a '70-'71 440HP, 440-6 and Hemi pan. The pan holds 6 qts with filter. MP reproduction is nice, P4529884. Make sure you get the correct 3/8" strainer to go with it.




Will an original 383 402 oil pan 3/8" pick-up work on a MP Hemi oil pan?




No , the hemi pan is deeper than the 402 pan. The 3/8" pickup can be bought new from MP , last time I bought it it ws not very expensive , cheapest source I found was Summit .

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Yes, no numbers on a '70-'71 440HP, 440-6 and Hemi pan. The pan holds 6 qts with filter. MP reproduction is nice, P4529884. Make sure you get the correct 3/8" strainer to go with it.




Will an original 383 402 oil pan 3/8" pick-up work on a MP Hemi oil pan?




No , the hemi pan is deeper than the 402 pan. The 3/8" pickup can be bought new from MP , last time I bought it it ws not very expensive , cheapest source I found was Summit .




Thanks, that's good to know. I've looked but haven't been able to find sold information on the MP pick-ups. What part number would I use for a 383 with Hemi pan and 3/8" sized pick-up?

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Yes, no numbers on a '70-'71 440HP, 440-6 and Hemi pan. The pan holds 6 qts with filter. MP reproduction is nice, P4529884. Make sure you get the correct 3/8" strainer to go with it.




Will an original 383 402 oil pan 3/8" pick-up work on a MP Hemi oil pan?




No , the hemi pan is deeper than the 402 pan. The 3/8" pickup can be bought new from MP , last time I bought it it ws not very expensive , cheapest source I found was Summit .




Thanks, that's good to know. I've looked but haven't been able to find sold information on the MP pick-ups. What part number would I use for a 383 with Hemi pan and 3/8" sized pick-up?




P4529565

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In '70 & '71 - the HEMI, 440+6 & 440HP used the same (no number) oil pan in E and B-bodies.

The 402 pan was used in '69 on b-bodies (earlier also) with 383s, 440HP, & 440+6 - it remained in use for '70 & '71 on E and B-bodies with 383s.




You are correct. I forgot that they carried over the 402 for the 383

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You can buy that 6-pack oil pan also from here at $99.95

http://store.440source.com/1970-71-Hemi-E-Body-6-Quart-Oil-Pan/productinfo/200%2D1123/


Pick up $19.95
http://store.440source.com/Oil-Pickup-Tube-5-Deep-Sump-3_8-thread/productinfo/121%2D1055/


I just rebuild one 440 using those parts from 440Source and I can't complain

Re: Oil Pans- What's correct? [Re: JohnRR] #1167046
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Yes, no numbers on a '70-'71 440HP, 440-6 and Hemi pan. The pan holds 6 qts with filter. MP reproduction is nice, P4529884. Make sure you get the correct 3/8" strainer to go with it.




Will an original 383 402 oil pan 3/8" pick-up work on a MP Hemi oil pan?




No , the hemi pan is deeper than the 402 pan. The 3/8" pickup can be bought new from MP , last time I bought it it ws not very expensive , cheapest source I found was Summit .




Thanks, that's good to know. I've looked but haven't been able to find sold information on the MP pick-ups. What part number would I use for a 383 with Hemi pan and 3/8" sized pick-up?




P4529565




Okay, this is where I'm getting hung up.

The notes say the P4529565 is for - 6 Quart, 3/8" Pipe for "RB" Engines

While the P4529564 is for - 6 Quart, 3/8" Pipe for "B" Engines

What's the difference between the two?

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Where are you getting the 564 description from ? the 564 is the pickup for the 402 pan , I have purchased both of those pick ups about 4 years ago.

I only have a 2002 Mopar Performance catalog to go by and it doesn't say what pans they are for , I went out on a limb and bought them to find out .

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Where are you getting the 564 description from ? the 564 is the pickup for the 402 pan , I have purchased both of those pick ups about 4 years ago.

I only have a 2002 Mopar Performance catalog to go by and it doesn't say what pans they are for , I went out on a limb and bought them to find out .




I'm getting that description info from - www.monicattichrysler.com

I have a 2000 Mopar Performance catalog and am probably seeing the same information you're seeing in your 2002 catalog; a whole lot of nothing.

Monicatti could be confused as well, who knows?

If you've bought the 565 and have confirmed it to be the correct one, that's the one I'll go with.

Thanks again for the info,

Anthony

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Where are you getting the 564 description from ? the 564 is the pickup for the 402 pan , I have purchased both of those pick ups about 4 years ago.

I only have a 2002 Mopar Performance catalog to go by and it doesn't say what pans they are for , I went out on a limb and bought them to find out .




I'm getting that description info from - www.monicattichrysler.com

I have a 2000 Mopar Performance catalog and am probably seeing the same information you're seeing in your 2002 catalog; a whole lot of nothing.

Monicatti could be confused as well, who knows?

If you've bought the 565 and have confirmed it to be the correct one, that's the one I'll go with.

Thanks again for the info,

Anthony




I can confirm it sometime tonight , I still have the box it came in ... if I wanted to dig deeper I could probably find the Summit slip ...

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