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Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: Al_Alguire] #1140044 12/28/11 12:05 AM 12/28/11 12:05 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,898 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,898 MI, usa	Quote: My 3400lb car has no issues hitting a .400 tree. Just saying... I not sure it would with the type converters and suspension set-up we run. Short front tires to boot. I've seen your car up close (very nice I'd love to have it). I wouldn't have bet it was that heavy. Don long wheel base foot brake cars don't cut .400 lights. In N/SS .000-.010 lights are attainable. I personally don't want to run a tree that my car doesn't have a chance to go .000. I thought this class started out N/SS. A legal N/SS car wouldn't fit this class very well. However I understand what Josh is saying. This class is designed to bring more cars in that don't normally run N/SS. In that context I think it's a great idea. More cars,better gate,bigger events can only be a positive thing. I plan on supporting Josh's events,but it'll be running N/SS which is fine with me. I hope the new class goes over big. Doug

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: dvw] #1140045 12/28/11 12:14 AM 12/28/11 12:14 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 995 Addison,IL OUTLAWSSAA super stock
OUTLAWSSAA super stock Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 995 Addison,IL	Quote: Quote: My 3400lb car has no issues hitting a .400 tree. Just saying... I not sure it would with the type converters and suspension set-up we run. Short front tires to boot. I've seen your car up close (very nice I'd love to have it). I wouldn't have bet it was that heavy. I thought this class started out N/SS. A legal N/SS car wouldn't fit this class very well. Doug If you look at the cars running AAA/FX and AA/FX. they will fit in, they might have to add weight but other than that I don't see why not.

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: OUTLAWSSAA] #1140046 12/28/11 12:34 AM 12/28/11 12:34 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi. J JAKE68 pro stock
JAKE68 pro stock J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi.	Quote: Quote: Quote: My 3400lb car has no issues hitting a .400 tree. Just saying... I not sure it would with the type converters and suspension set-up we run. Short front tires to boot. I've seen your car up close (very nice I'd love to have it). I wouldn't have bet it was that heavy. I thought this class started out N/SS. A legal N/SS car wouldn't fit this class very well. Doug If you look at the cars running AAA/FX and AA/FX. they will fit in, they might have to add weight but other than that I don't see why not. I could not get that light in Lens car,but my car and take out 200 hmmmmm???????? JAKES AUTOMOTIVE

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: OUTLAWSSAA] #1140047 12/28/11 12:37 AM 12/28/11 12:37 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 417 reynoldsburg,ohio poppaj mopar
poppaj mopar Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 417 reynoldsburg,ohio	Quote: Quote: Quote: My 3400lb car has no issues hitting a .400 tree. Just saying... I not sure it would with the type converters and suspension set-up we run. Short front tires to boot. I've seen your car up close (very nice I'd love to have it). I wouldn't have bet it was that heavy. I thought this class started out N/SS. A legal N/SS car wouldn't fit this class very well. Doug If you look at the cars running AAA/FX and AA/FX. they will fit in, they might have to add weight but other than that I don't see why not. It will be a lot of fun regardless. The .400 tree will allow some holeshot victories for a car a tenth or two slower if the other side sleeps. If nothing else it should draw a nice group of quick cars that normally aren't quite legal for FX. Mike CS and his 63'hemi polara is a great example along with the other Chicago outlaw racers. poppaj 6987687-58634_10150263014510512_863140511_15070559_2133449_n.jpg (176 downloads) AA/NSS 65'Coronet "Whompin Wedge" Pop & Son Performance 557" B-1 power John Holt Chassis

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: JAKE68] #1140048 12/28/11 12:48 AM 12/28/11 12:48 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 995 Addison,IL OUTLAWSSAA super stock
OUTLAWSSAA super stock Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 995 Addison,IL	I could not get that light in Lens car,but my car and take out 200 hmmmmm???????? Gary,you can't get Len's car to weigh 3300lbs?

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: OUTLAWSSAA] #1140049 12/28/11 12:52 AM 12/28/11 12:52 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi. J JAKE68 pro stock
JAKE68 pro stock J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi.	The lightest we could get that car is 3460 with me. Remember the only thing that is lightened on that car is hood.Len is not about cutting it up. That car is all steel and glass. Last edited by JAKE68; 12/28/11 12:53 AM. JAKES AUTOMOTIVE

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: JAKE68] #1140050 12/28/11 02:27 AM 12/28/11 02:27 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	And Nss added the aaaaxf class. I think we are on the right path for the faster cars to come play along. Dvw I don't like not including every guy I can in everything we do, but I see what you mean. Foot brake guys are at a disadvantage. But the fastest foot brake cars could easily beat some of the Transbrake cars. This should be more about bragging rights than anything I would hope.

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: joshking440] #1140051 12/28/11 03:12 AM 12/28/11 03:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,411 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,411 Las Vegas	Just for the record I am talking about my small tire car. Not the one in my sig picture, it's actually faster and can kill a .400 tree at 2900lbs but apples to oranges really. It weighs just under 3400lbs as it sits now, a tad overweight for our class right now. Here it is..BTW just seeingif it is someplace we might be welcome if we choose to go. Looks lik we will not have a place to race it this year out here due to the class being dropped so who knows. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: Al_Alguire] #1140052 12/28/11 10:57 AM 12/28/11 10:57 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,898 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,898 MI, usa	Quote: Just for the record I am talking about my small tire car. Not the one in my sig picture, it's actually faster and can kill a .400 tree at 2900lbs but apples to oranges really. It weighs just under 3400lbs as it sits now, a tad overweight for our class right now. Here it is..BTW just seeingif it is someplace we might be welcome if we choose to go. Looks lik we will not have a place to race it this year out here due to the class being dropped so who knows. Al I didn't know you meant the silver car. I've seen it as during my winter treks. I'd love to see either one at Indy. Doug

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: dvw] #1140053 01/05/12 07:15 PM 01/05/12 07:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	So did everyone give up and decide this class was silly?

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: joshking440] #1140054 01/05/12 09:24 PM 01/05/12 09:24 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,444 central ohio N nss guy pro stock
nss guy pro stock N Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,444 central ohio	be interesting to see how many show up, I'm betting less than 5 cars that run 8.50 or quicker either st louis or indy the true NSS cars foot braking running 8.75 or quicker on 10.5 tires won't bother with the 14x32 transbrake cars just a guess

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: joshking440] #1140055 01/05/12 11:35 PM 01/05/12 11:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 641 Bergen County NJ N NoJoke mopar
NoJoke mopar N Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 641 Bergen County NJ	Quote: So did everyone give up and decide this class was silly? Josh I was looking to set up my car for the Outlaw class... But if your not going to have it then Im running NSS....

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: nss guy] #1140056 01/05/12 11:41 PM 01/05/12 11:41 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,186 OHIO T THE GLASS MAN super stock
THE GLASS MAN super stock T Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,186 OHIO	Quote: be interesting to see how many show up, I'm betting less than 5 cars that run 8.50 or quicker either st louis or indy the true NSS cars foot braking running 8.75 or quicker on 10.5 tires won't bother with the 14x32 transbrake cars just a guess I bet Doug Duell with the "Dragon Wagon" will disagree with that statement.

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: joshking440] #1140057 01/05/12 11:43 PM 01/05/12 11:43 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,162 s e mich ro23car super stock
ro23car super stock Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,162 s e mich	Quote: So did everyone give up and decide this class was silly? didnt give up here ill be at indy, pass the salt please.

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: ro23car] #1140058 01/05/12 11:49 PM 01/05/12 11:49 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 270 M MIKECS enthusiast
MIKECS enthusiast M Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 270	I KNOW THAT THE KEEPING THE FAITH CAR WILL NOT RUN IT BECAUSE THEY WOULD SLOW DOWN 2 1/2 TENTHS OR MORE. AS PAUL REMINDED ME THEY HAVE A REAL REAL REAL REAL CAR, SO I GUESS MINE IS MAKE BELIEVE. 7003723-Picture002.jpg (156 downloads)

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: MIKECS] #1140059 01/06/12 12:47 AM 01/06/12 12:47 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	salty old dog... they are discussing it on another forum

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: joshking440] #1140060 01/06/12 11:35 AM 01/06/12 11:35 AM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 411 Harleysville, PA USA T Tommy D mopar
Tommy D mopar T Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 411 Harleysville, PA USA	I'm probably all wet with this one, and judging from the cars owned by folks replying to this thread...I'm sure I am, but...I think that you could have an awesome, well represented, heads-up NSS class. In my mind it should be much more pure than aluminum-headed, 500 inch plus, mini-tubbed cars. How 'bout running stock displacement +.060 overbore, multi-carb only, 10.5" max tire (would love to see 9" stock eliminator tires used, with steel heads. Basically use the regular NSS rules, but run a minimum weight, and run them heads up. I'm thinking that low-11 second cars could play, but would get beaten pretty easily. A mid-ten second car would be very competative, and only the nastiest, high-budget race cars would run in the high 9's. Heck...make the class a breakout at 9.99! Just sayin'

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: MIKECS] #1140061 02/18/12 09:52 PM 02/18/12 09:52 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	sooooooooooooo

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: joshking440] #1140062 04/29/12 10:45 AM 04/29/12 10:45 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	I think we n�e to bring this back to the top. June is coming fast

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: joshking440] #1140063 04/30/12 08:01 AM 04/30/12 08:01 AM
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10 o to go "Happy Don" Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,489 St. Louis Mo.	2009 418" build dan smith built new 9.96 131.82 6.23 108 1.30 60 foot best to date 9/15/09 8in 727 430 dana 2860 lb 3040 lb w driver

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