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Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss #1139864 12/20/11 09:50 AM 12/20/11 09:50 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Judging from what I'm reading there are some pro-mod NSS cars that want to run heads up. I'm game we just have to put some rules together that are simple to make it work All makes or just mopar? Heads up pro tree Any tire or just 10.5s? Transbrake? Do we let the b bodies through 69 and e bodies through 71 race? Loosen up the carb rule? Keep the period correct hood scoop? 500 CID and smaller 2900lbs? Over 500 3200? Do we just set a minimum weight and thats it?

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: joshking440] #1139865 12/20/11 10:01 AM 12/20/11 10:01 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,766 On the parachute mount N n20mstr master
n20mstr master N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,766 On the parachute mount	HIDDEN NITROUS ? OR IS THAT TOO EASY ....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: joshking440] #1139866 12/20/11 10:45 AM 12/20/11 10:45 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 722 Hampstead, MD. Troublemaker427 super stock
Troublemaker427 super stock Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 722 Hampstead, MD.	The way I'd like to see it: All Makes 10.5s only (w's ok) Multiple Carburetors (no Dominators) 3,000 lbs. min. weight Obviously N/A period hoodscoops Engine style must match year of car. No pony cars (Mustangs, Camaros, post '68 Cudas/use body styles accepted by majority of NSS groups) NSS interior rules Basically accepted NSS rules with min. weight, 10.5's, trans brake/two steps,and a pro tree. Keep it simple. Jody Aberts 1966 Fairlane 427 Troublemaker2 AA/NSS 1964 Galaxie 500XL 390-4spd. 1966 F-100 390-C6 1967 Plymouth VIP 383-TF 2003 Roadking

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: n20mstr] #1139867 12/20/11 10:46 AM 12/20/11 10:46 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 641 Bergen County NJ N NoJoke mopar
NoJoke mopar N Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 641 Bergen County NJ	Quote: HIDDEN NITROUS ? OR IS THAT TOO EASY Tony you want to win 2 classes leave something for us slower guys..

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: Troublemaker427] #1139868 12/20/11 10:48 AM 12/20/11 10:48 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 641 Bergen County NJ N NoJoke mopar
NoJoke mopar N Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 641 Bergen County NJ	Quote: The way I'd like to see it: All Makes 10.5s only (w's ok) Multiple Carburetors (no Dominators) 3,000 lbs. min. weight Obviously N/A period hoodscoops Engine style must match year of car. No pony cars (Mustangs, Camaros, post '68 Cudas/use body styles accepted by majority of NSS groups) NSS interior rules Basically accepted NSS rules with min. weight, 10.5's, trans brake/two steps,and a pro tree. Keep it simple. I like but the tires should be any size since NSS has a restriction...

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: NoJoke] #1139869 12/20/11 10:56 AM 12/20/11 10:56 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	No joke should Josh come by your house look at your car and make a list so he can get the rules right. Beings the rules are getting made now and the cars are already built, everyone's car is not going to be an exact fit. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: NoJoke] #1139870 12/20/11 11:01 AM 12/20/11 11:01 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 722 Hampstead, MD. Troublemaker427 super stock
Troublemaker427 super stock Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 722 Hampstead, MD.	This is my reason for the 10.5 tire rule. From the outside the cars should look close to the way the were in the early to mid-60's. I know most run modern wheels, wheelie bars, etc. but the smaller tire lends itself to a more nostalgic apperance in my opinion. The smaller tire also adds another element to the challenge of getting a fast car down the track. To be honest I'd like to keep it stock style suspension and real 10.5s but I know that would eliminate many current cars. 10.5w's are a plenty big tire. Jody Aberts 1966 Fairlane 427 Troublemaker2 AA/NSS 1964 Galaxie 500XL 390-4spd. 1966 F-100 390-C6 1967 Plymouth VIP 383-TF 2003 Roadking

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: dannysbee] #1139871 12/20/11 11:02 AM 12/20/11 11:02 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 298 Shelton, Ct. 5 572_HEMI_Cuda enthusiast
572_HEMI_Cuda enthusiast 5 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 298 Shelton, Ct.	make the rules so my car fits. lol...

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: Troublemaker427] #1139872 12/20/11 11:04 AM 12/20/11 11:04 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	I like the idea of opening up the tire rule from the standpoint there a lot of SS Hemi cars that would fit right in.

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: joshking440] #1139873 12/20/11 11:15 AM 12/20/11 11:15 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 624 Baltimore,MD lowbudget mopar addict
lowbudget mopar addict Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 624 Baltimore,MD	Does anyone remember the NSCA Pro Nostalgia class? Might be a good start plus there could be a few cars out there still that were built for it, used to be alot of fun to watch...I remember the Old Reliable Impala, Fountain of Youth Fairlane, Booze brothers Pale Rider...was lots of cool cars in that class over the years and the racing was close. Thats if the Mopar guys aint afraid of some stiff competition

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: joshking440] #1139874 12/20/11 11:37 AM 12/20/11 11:37 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	Quote: I like the idea of opening up the tire rule from the standpoint there a lot of SS Hemi cars that would fit right in. Josh once you let the ss/ah cars in how are you going to level the playing field for the rest of the racers? Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: dannysbee] #1139875 12/20/11 11:59 AM 12/20/11 11:59 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 722 Hampstead, MD. Troublemaker427 super stock
Troublemaker427 super stock Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 722 Hampstead, MD.	Quote: Quote: I like the idea of opening up the tire rule from the standpoint there a lot of SS Hemi cars that would fit right in. Josh once you let the ss/ah cars in how are you going to level the playing field for the rest of the racers? I agree. Don't the SS/AH cars already have their own shootouts? If the SS/AH cars want to play let them run the smaller tire. Jody Aberts 1966 Fairlane 427 Troublemaker2 AA/NSS 1964 Galaxie 500XL 390-4spd. 1966 F-100 390-C6 1967 Plymouth VIP 383-TF 2003 Roadking

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: dannysbee] #1139876 12/20/11 12:00 PM 12/20/11 12:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Would any AH car that would show up be real threat? Sure there are a few that run faster than 8.50s but not that many

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: dannysbee] #1139877 12/20/11 12:07 PM 12/20/11 12:07 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 641 Bergen County NJ N NoJoke mopar
NoJoke mopar N Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 641 Bergen County NJ	Quote: No joke should Josh come by your house look at your car and make a list so he can get the rules right. Beings the rules are getting made now and the cars are already built, everyone's car is not going to be an exact fit. You think Im the only one with a big tire under the car? NSS already has a rule for 10.5w why not run a big tire in this outlaw class he wants to start... There are plenty more cars that would enter I bet...

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: joshking440] #1139878 12/20/11 12:09 PM 12/20/11 12:09 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 641 Bergen County NJ N NoJoke mopar
NoJoke mopar N Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 641 Bergen County NJ	Quote: Would any AH car that would show up be real threat? Sure there are a few that run faster than 8.50s but not that many I bet a few would show up...

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: joshking440] #1139879 12/20/11 12:09 PM 12/20/11 12:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	How fast will they go at 500-572 inches? You want to tech for cubic inches? It's a Pro's versus Joe's and the pros can use steroids if they want to build another engine. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: dannysbee] #1139880 12/20/11 12:26 PM 12/20/11 12:26 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,766 On the parachute mount N n20mstr master
n20mstr master N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,766 On the parachute mount	JOSH NO prob, i will run ANY SS/AH car..... i will come on a 295 radial, and tractor trialer any of them ....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: NoJoke] #1139881 12/20/11 12:27 PM 12/20/11 12:27 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	NoJoke I don't think you are the only one with a big tire. But every post that comes up about tire size you are the first one there to lobby for the bigger tire and it just so happen to be the set up on your car. I am not trying to be rude or an a$$ that is just me on the outside looking in. The 14x32 tire opens a can of worms you might not want opened. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: dannysbee] #1139882 12/20/11 01:34 PM 12/20/11 01:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 21 MI 6 64_Plymouth member
64_Plymouth member 6 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 21 MI	In my opinion...keep the tire rule at a 10.5W max...there is no reason to run a 14x32...work on your chassis set up if you can't make a 10.5W tire hook. Like an earlier post said, keep the NSS rules of interior/exterior but let's do a Cubic Inch to weight type rule to level the playing field. In my opinion, the NSCA Pro Nostalgia class rules got a little overboard at the end but there were only a few players so the rules were written to accomodate them. If this new class keeps it simple (cubic inch to weight) for Wedge style and Hemi style engines, the class should stick around and have decent car counts. Just my opinion...as I'm rebuilding my car now and looking for a heads up class to race...as of now, the only option I really have is NMCA pro stock where I'd have to race late model mustangs with Big Block Chevy's.

Re: Monster Mopar Outlaw Nss [Re: 64_Plymouth] #1139883 12/20/11 01:40 PM 12/20/11 01:40 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 697 COLUMBUS, OH W Whompin_Wedge mopar
Whompin_Wedge mopar W Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 697 COLUMBUS, OH	im in. 10.5 w tires. lets face it look how fast people are going on small tires. if the big tired cars want to play throw some 33x10.5s on. I know of 2 hemi ss cars that did that this year with no problem. i like the weight to cubic inch limit. dont limit ci though.. Casey

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