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Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
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Usually not...I'm more of a poweradder kind of guy....lots of drugs(nitrous for yall NA guys) and the more boost the better!
Time to turn the tide!
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: instigator]
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12/18/11 09:17 PM
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Only if they can run faster then 7.50s.
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: instigator]
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12/18/11 09:21 PM
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Usually not...I'm more of a poweradder kind of guy....lots of drugs(nitrous for yall NA guys) and the more boost the better!
Time to turn the tide!
Define Featherweight.....??????
Rickster
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: Eric]
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12/18/11 09:27 PM
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most of the nitrous cars are featherweights
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: justinp61]
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12/18/11 11:05 PM
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If I was building and had the option to build lightweight or a power adder I'd build lightweight. It doesn't take as much engine to go fast when you're light and I'm not smart enough to make a lot of power.
I'll take light any day.... way EASIER on parts
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: B G Racing]
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12/18/11 11:35 PM
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Not so much as impressed but more like envious
That is a good point! LOL 
Weight is relative. Every 100 lbs is roughly a tenth in the quarter mile, so you can adjust your impression for it somewhat. My junk is over 3200 lbs with driver. IMO, 2500 is light, 3000 is medium, 3800 is heavy. To be called featherlite, I would want to see less than 2400 lbs with driver.
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: joshking440]
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12/18/11 11:39 PM
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we should all just build dragsters
That is where I draw the line. Door car all the way for me.
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: one bad fish]
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12/19/11 12:05 AM
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Any fool can make a light car go fast
That is my strategy!  Also the KISS principal. NA all the way! 
Hopefully less breakage too
Mark
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: sixpackgut]
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12/19/11 12:10 AM
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most of the nitrous cars are featherweights
not in class racing most are well over 3000lbs
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: Eric]
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12/19/11 12:18 AM
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im no HATER......anything fast gets my attention Obviously there are smart bracket racers that take relatively mild engines and put them in light cars with 14 x 32 or whatever. they are concerned with consistency and they are still going fast for cheap. They are the smart racers out there. Meanwhile some of us chase that ET no matter what. LOL Seriously, any car thats fast and well thought out gets my attention
....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: cheapstreetdustr]
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12/19/11 02:10 AM
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some people just dont see the irony in things....lol...
To me its always been about light weight... heck I
could have got more weight off mine but there is a
price after a point..... but thats just me
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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12/19/11 02:41 AM
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I love lightweight cars, but just like anything else, it takes planning and forethought to get there. It's amazing how quick you can add the weight back with your choice of components.
Ditch the stockblock in favor of an aftermarket cast iron block, ditch the stock case powerglide in favor of a J&W setup, toss the sirroco radiator in favor of a 2 row aluminum job, add an alternator, or an extra battery...you've just improved the car dramatically, and added 200 lbs!!
Talk about impressed, Seriously, I'm impressed by old school craftsmen like Mr. P-body, who do nearly all of it themselves. Sure, thier cars may lack the fit and finish of a Pro job in certain areas, but The fact a guy can stand there and say, "I did this entire car" has always got my attention.
Another thing, is guys going fast in short, narrow, light cars, those Arrows, Omni chargers, Colts, Shadows, etc... I just shake my head, I love my Challenger's 110 wheelbase and wide stance, always feel comfortable even when I get out of the groove, but those things look twitchy and unforgiving!!
"Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks"
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: moparniac]
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12/19/11 08:58 AM
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Mr. P body, How light is your car??
548 cu. in., Bill Mitchell Aluminum Block, CRT 727 auto trans, Alston Chassis. 8.981et at 149.46 mph. 1.204et - 60 foot, So Far....
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: Dartsport540]
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12/19/11 09:16 AM
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Mr. P body, How light is your car??
2405# with me in it... I'm 190
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: instigator]
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12/19/11 11:04 AM
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I'm not impressed by lite, I'm not impressed by heavy, N/A or power adder....blah...blah...blah....
I'm impressed by someone who knows how to WIN with their car, regardless of class, regardless of type of racing. Its the people that KNOW their cars that win.
Thats whats impressive.
RIP Monte Smith
Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.
WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: BradH]
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12/19/11 02:50 PM
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You get 9.23s at 146 EDIT Now you have to figure out how to get rid of 1355#
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: rickstershemi]
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12/19/11 03:12 PM
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I'm impressed by anyone having fun with their cars 
Rickster
Agreed!
I'm just going to keep what impresses me to myself.
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: instigator]
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12/19/11 08:52 PM
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Usually not...I'm more of a poweradder kind of guy....lots of drugs(nitrous for yall NA guys) and the more boost the better!
What kind of questin is that?
To each his own, is how I see it, and I'm impressed with anything that runs good for what it is.
What does yours run?
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: 440Jim]
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12/19/11 09:18 PM
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Well, the only NA car faster than 5.0sec at a quick 32 car meet I was at this summer was a big hemi with a single 4 barrel and he was running 4.90 in the 1/8th... It was an FHO hemi, and man it was awesome. It was not a Hemi 99 or on NOS...Thought that was pretty cool along with the sound of it.
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: MoparBilly]
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12/19/11 09:50 PM
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I like all cars except when they launch and run a throttle stop for half the pass.Can we say boring  Quote:
Another thing, is guys going fast in short, narrow, light cars, those Arrows, Omni chargers, Colts, Shadows, etc... I just shake my head, I love my Challenger's 110 wheelbase and wide stance, always feel comfortable even when I get out of the groove, but those things look twitchy and unforgiving!!
How about 97 inches at 155+ on d.o.t.'s
I know it is not as small as a colt but ya know.
I have only been scared once and that was a friday night at Firebird.
loaded it up and became a spectator
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: RADAMX]
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12/19/11 10:02 PM
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I like all cars except when they launch and run a throttle stop for half the pass.Can we say boring
So maybe think about the ride & forget about the spectator.....your going to try and nail a 9.90....your on the stop for close to 3 seconds.....you come off the stop and still run close to 170mph.....some faster, for me 168mph....so you think that is boring....not
Rickster
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: rickstershemi]
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12/19/11 10:08 PM
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think about running 7.90's you still run the same you just don't have to wait for it. still stirring
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: 1967dartgt]
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I like all cars except when they launch and run a throttle stop for half the pass.Can we say boring
So maybe think about the ride & forget about the spectator.....your going to try and nail a 9.90....your on the stop for close to 3 seconds.....you come off the stop and still run close to 170mph.....some faster, for me 168mph....so you think that is boring....not
Why not run a 7.90 and think about the spectator and track owner
What class do you guys run that draws 70-100 cars per class..besides Handicap/Brackets
Spectators only want to see Jets, Wheelstanders & 300MPH Passes....they could give a crap about anything else
Rickster
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: RADAMX]
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I like all cars except when they launch and run a throttle stop for half the pass.Can we say boring
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Another thing, is guys going fast in short, narrow, light cars, those Arrows, Omni chargers, Colts, Shadows, etc... I just shake my head, I love my Challenger's 110 wheelbase and wide stance, always feel comfortable even when I get out of the groove, but those things look twitchy and unforgiving!!
How about 97 inches at 155+ on d.o.t.'s
I know it is not as small as a colt but ya know.
I have only been scared once and that was a friday night at Firebird.
loaded it up and became a spectator
97".....thats a dragster to me...
5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: Eric]
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12/20/11 12:01 AM
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How about this a light car that does not look like a light car, stir in whatever combo you want (N/A, spray, boost) that is what impresses me. I was never a fan of the tin interior gigantic tire cars (no offense intended) I always liked the stock look that hauls. Steve
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: 72chrgrally]
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Agree with the small tire stock look that hauls the mail. Looks could be deceiving. A fella on here with a 67 Coronet wonders if his 3600 lb can come down to 3000. Yes and no. He can probably get close to it at 3200 by being creative and it would still retain the steel body panels, roll down windows,carpet,bumpers,lights,etc.
Well planned and committed it all narrows down from socket science morphing into Rocket science morphing into Pocket science.
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: 1967dartgt]
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I like all cars except when they launch and run a throttle stop for half the pass.Can we say boring
So maybe think about the ride & forget about the spectator.....your going to try and nail a 9.90....your on the stop for close to 3 seconds.....you come off the stop and still run close to 170mph.....some faster, for me 168mph....so you think that is boring....not
Why not run a 7.90 and think about the spectator and track owner
What class do you guys run that draws 70-100 cars per class..besides Handicap/Brackets
Spectators only want to see Jets, Wheelstanders & 300MPH Passes....they could give a crap about anything else
Rickster
Come out to a cecil street car shootout. Look at the Yellowbullet nationals and tell me if you have ever had a crowd turnout like that at a bracket race. Cecil gets a real good crowd turn out for there monthly street car shootout because it is a good show for the fans. Last yellowbullet had 85 cars show up for x275 and only 32 make the show. This crowd buts alot of dollars in the track owners pocket so he can keep the track open. With all the problems in the econmy and the amount of tracks closing maybe we need to think about how to make a track survive so our sport can continue on. Yes the regular brackets do some for a track owner but he still has payouts, supplies etc. to make it work, as where a spectator is just money in his pocket.
and that's fine.....probably why the tracks down here are doing the same thing....
Street Nationals (Bradenton & Orlando)
Ducks Radial Tire Races (SGMP & Bradenton)
Tomato Nationals at IRR
Heads up Madness at PBIR
and they all have their own bracket programs as well
Just can't stand it when people start whining about the Super Classes....they aren't broke so don't try to fix them
Rickster
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: JERICOGTX]
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Heres my truck it has 15x18.8x15s 4 linked dana 60 . i love it dodge did not make it that way . i just made it better,,,,,
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Re: Do all those featherweight NA cars impess ya!
[Re: Spaceman Spiff]
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Ive always been impressed and respected the builders/drivers that run the light short wheelbase cars. Just like drag bikes and cars like Jimmys Dart with the crazy motor. Lil rocket ships. I will stick to my 10.5 wide track mid weight car thats drives easy and I can make mistakes without all hell breaking loose. I sorta understand the PA vs NA but I dont know why people get bent out of light small cars when so many will take a B body and glass it out to get light but wouldnt run a daytona like car????? And here again, when its a heavy car running big numbers NA, they get alot of attention.  
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