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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: moparmike1] #1137891
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30 years ago, when I started into Mopars, these cars were literally myths. Trust me, been looking for one that long, seriously. The 72 Charger Rallye is my favourite Charger, and the 72 Roadrunner is by far the coolest, and my personal favourite. I gave up hope of finding a V-code one a long time ago, because they simply never surfaced.

My advice Larry, sell it whoever wants it the most...not sure how you'll determine that, but throwing my two cents in, I would personally HATE to see this car sold, restored, flipped a couple times, on the cover of a Mopar Magazine, flipped a couple more times, and then put on a barge to a foreign 'collector' who couldn't tell you what the word 'Plymouth' means, but "Just had to have it!"...

That would just be sad, imho.

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: hemigod426] #1137892
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Man I sure am glad I am not into all this numbers crap. Pretty much any old Mopar can have a hemi or 6 bbl stuffed into it and you can then go out and beat the snot out of it.

And isnt that the whole point of these things?


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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: Ron69rr] #1137893
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I have to say something here, I bought my first Mopar when I was 20, It was a 73 Satellite that I bought off a dealer used car lot from a friend I knew who was a salesman there. Not long after getting that car painted and selling it I bought the first of many 72 B-bodies. After that I was hooked, Don't ask me why 72's it just happened. So as a 72 owner you want the best 72 you could get, therefore as far as literature was concerned it would have to be a 72 6 pack car. Little did I know that was a very hard car to find. I would check every 72 RR I saw and could never find one. At the Nats in the early 80's I walked by Galens booth and saw his paper for a 72 6 pack registry, so I asked him about them. That is when he informed me that he had only found 1 RR and 2 Chargers. Needles to say that sorta takes the wind out of your sails. I stayed in contact with Galen just in case another car turned up. None did, 1 Day I get home from work and my then present wife said Galen called and I needed to call him. I said I had enough cars and didn't need another one. At the time I had the Superbird, a 72 400 Sky Blue RR that I had restored that you night have seen in magazines, I had a Black 72 440 RR/GTX and I has a General Lee from the TV show. She then told me that the 6 pack car was for sale. Of course I called, That weekend a very good friend of mine that worked for an airline flew down and took pictures. When he got back it was all I could do waiting for the pics from the photo store to be developed. Needless to say we struck a deal, people told me I was crazy paying that much for the car, I didn't care. It was my DREAM car and I wasn't missing it. I knew he had already sent in for sale adds to Hemmings and MCG and possibly more so I paid him what he was asking. I sold the 440 car and went and got it. Not long after I got divorced started drag racing and liked it much better than sitting in a field with a restored car. That was 17 years ago, I have had a few people who know about the car and a couple of them stay in touch if I ever wanted to get rid of it. I asked how much it is worth because sometimes lately I am not sure I will ever do the car. To be honest I have turned down $35,000 more than once in the past 10 years and at that price I am not losing money. It has never been about the money. Even now if I do decide to sell the car it might not go to the highest bidder, it might go to who I think will restore the car the way it deserves.

As far as being a 72 Well It is still the last built Mopar 6 pack car known to exist. I have heard all the stories about other cars, I chased them for years, no one to this day has shown me a fendar tag or Dash VIN Tag that shows me there is another one.

Ok Flame on, give me your best shot.

Larry

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: Moparlar] #1137894
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I have to say something here, I bought my first Mopar when I was 20, It was a 73 Satellite that I bought off a dealer used car lot from a friend I knew who was a salesman there. Not long after getting that car painted and selling it I bought the first of many 72 B-bodies. After that I was hooked, Don't ask me why 72's it just happened. So as a 72 owner you want the best 72 you could get, therefore as far as literature was concerned it would have to be a 72 6 pack car. Little did I know that was a very hard car to find. I would check every 72 RR I saw and could never find one. At the Nats in the early 80's I walked by Galens booth and saw his paper for a 72 6 pack registry, so I asked him about them. That is when he informed me that he had only found 1 RR and 2 Chargers. Needles to say that sorta takes the wind out of your sails. I stayed in contact with Galen just in case another car turned up. None did, 1 Day I get home from work and my then present wife said Galen called and I needed to call him. I said I had enough cars and didn't need another one. At the time I had the Superbird, a 72 400 Sky Blue RR that I had restored that you night have seen in magazines, I had a Black 72 440 RR/GTX and I has a General Lee from the TV show. She then told me that the 6 pack car was for sale. Of course I called, That weekend a very good friend of mine that worked for an airline flew down and took pictures. When he got back it was all I could do waiting for the pics from the photo store to be developed. Needless to say we struck a deal, people told me I was crazy paying that much for the car, I didn't care. It was my DREAM car and I wasn't missing it. I sold the 440 car and went and got it. Not long after I got divorced started drag racing and liked it much better than sitting in a field with a restored car. That was 17 years ago, I have had a few people who know about the car and a couple of them stay in touch if I ever wanted to get rid of it. I asked how much it is worth because sometimes lately I am not sure I will ever do the car. TO be honest I have turned down $35,000 more than once in the past 10 years. It has never been about the money. Even now if I do decide to sell the car it might not go to the highest bidder, it might go to who I think will restore the car the way it deserves.

As far as being a 72 Well It is still the last built Mopar 6 pack car known to exist. I have heard all the stories about other cars, I chased them for years, no one to this day has shown me a fendar tag or Dash VIN Tag that shows me there is another one.

Ok Flame on, give me your best shot.

Larry


GREAT STORY always good to hear another real mopar nut and how it hit ya, yes this car needs to get done and good home in the usa


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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: Moparlar] #1137895
12/19/11 12:34 AM
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I sold the 440 car and went and got it. Not long after I got divorced started drag racing and liked it much better than sitting in a field with a restored car. That was 17 years ago,

Larry




Says it all..(no not the divorced part)...

Time for the car to go.

Not flaming or judging, just my observation.
My first car was 72 Sat. I know they draw they can have...


I used to care but....... things have changed
Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: Moparlar] #1137896
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Larry: Been reading/following this since the post started.

All I can say is that your and nakita7's point as to whom it should be offered to is spot-on: someone who wants the car for themself, and what it represents, should be the next owner/caretaker. It's the absolute end of an era- and should be cared for accordingly.


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1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: hemigod426] #1137897
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Nice story Larry. You understand the 'passion'. Dan does too, with his V-code Furys. Hope they go to the right people too!!!

I've had people literally laughing at me with my 'puke green' (it was J6 lime) 71 Roadrunner. Owning 71 R/T's many years ago, when they weren't 'cool' and goofs saying that I need to sell it and get a 'real' Charger R/T (they meant a 68/69). Selling my rough 68 Charger many years ago to a body shop, just because they needed something to "Flip and make some money".

BTW: My first car was a 72 Plymouth Satellite Sebring Plus, 318, column auto, two-tone pale yellow with silver on the bottom. My mom bought it, off a used car lot, for me when I was 16 for $150. Yes, $150 bucks. It was a piece of crap, but it ran and I drove it till I could get a Roadrunner, and I thought it was so cool because it was a "Sebring Plus", which are much cooler than 'regular' Satellites!!!

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: ph23vo] #1137898
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what chou talkin' bout willis?...the 2 RAREST V- CODES ON THE PLANET being talked about..where's the bad for me??...




not to rain on your parade, but with over 60 v coded fury gt's made, and less than 5 1972 v coded b bodies made, how exactly does the land barge count as one of "the 2 rarest v codes on the planet"? the other runner v code would be rarer, as would the 2 or three chargers. much rarer v code numbers before the gt. then the road runner converts, cuda converts, coronet converts. i'm just saying......


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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: nakita7] #1137899
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When it comes to Roadrunners this 72 6/pk surely must be considered the Pintacle of all Roadrunners ever made, the greatest-grandest last one of them all. Hopefully someone will buy this irreguarded roadrunner immediately somehow and perform its well deserved proper restoration, instead of being Garaged forever...

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: Golden-Arm] #1137900
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what chou talkin' bout willis?...the 2 RAREST V- CODES ON THE PLANET being talked about..where's the bad for me??...




not to rain on your parade, but with over 60 v coded fury gt's made, and less than 5 1972 v coded b bodies made, how exactly does the land barge count as one of "the 2 rarest v codes on the planet"? the other runner v code would be rarer, as would the 2 or three chargers. much rarer v code numbers before the gt. i'm just saying......


his fury v-codes are rarer now,big black guy in city of buffalo owns bens auto parts ran 3 v-code furys threw the chrusher first torched out the motors, no chit yes 3 v-code fury gt cars. old guy in our area collected all the ones in wny he died wife called bens...


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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: 69superbee383] #1137901
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Man I sure am glad I am not into all this numbers crap. Pretty much any old Mopar can have a hemi or 6 bbl stuffed into it and you can then go out and beat the snot out of it.

And isnt that the whole point of these things?




you can do the SAME THING with a REAL ONE!.. i do IT ALL THE TIME as ALL MINE ARE THE REAL DEAL!.... DRAG RACING my 19K mile hemi car on friday nights 13:20@105 stone stock.. and they are WORTH BIG BUCKS.. unlike another WITHOUT the little INSIGNIFICANT VIN CODE..! nuff said..

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: hemigod426] #1137902
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12-15 tops... its still a 1972.





OUCH! That's gonna' leave a mark.




No mark left here, last 6 pack car made have already been offered 2-3 times that




no chit? you were offered this lately 15kx3=$45,000 and you did not sell, how much are you holding out for?how much do you think its worth you gotta have a #, i guessed 20k now would be like 30-40k project 2004-2007 times




REMEMBER: YOU ARE DEALING with a car YOU SIMPLY CAN'T BUY ANYWHERE ELSE.. this changes the entire game!


yes i understand supply and demand, thats what old mopars are all about. if it was 4 speed,dana car with console and pistol grip i could get really excited and say 40k as is. i know they made more than one heard about them for years.it would be nice to say you have it but id rather buy a-12 bee or v-code gtx if its crazy $$




AIN'T it great to live in a country where you have choices!..... point your gun any direction you will hit 10-20 of the cars listed above FOR SALE!...and half that many at EVERY CAR SHOW.... how many V code 72 cars you gonna see....?

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You really come across like a crass snob there Dan.

Not everyone can afford to/wants to wrap up big bucks in an original hemi/6bbl car so they build their own. Doesn't mean they're any less fun.

As to the OP - I'd dress it up some and put it on Ebay with a healthy reserve. That's the easiest way to set a true WIW.
I can't put a value on a one of one car, there's nothing else to base that value on.

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: ph23vo] #1137904
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i would say 30k minimum actual sale.. 40k asking $$$.. .broadcast sheet? how rusty is it?.. i know the feeling lar.. cool car.. my fury and that car would be a sight for sore eye,s at a show... dan




Actually they would be sore eyes for the crusher !!

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what chou talkin' bout willis?...the 2 RAREST V- CODES ON THE PLANET being talked about..where's the bad for me??...




not to rain on your parade, but with over 60 v coded fury gt's made, and less than 5 1972 v coded b bodies made, how exactly does the land barge count as one of "the 2 rarest v codes on the planet"? the other runner v code would be rarer, as would the 2 or three chargers. much rarer v code numbers before the gt. then the road runner converts, cuda converts, coronet converts. i'm just saying......





at this point in the game you are grouping my V code furies in with V- code B/E body convertibles... yes some of those are MORE RARE THAN MINE...and 5-10 times as EXPENSIVE.. so THANKS!

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: ph23vo] #1137906
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Man I sure am glad I am not into all this numbers crap. Pretty much any old Mopar can have a hemi or 6 bbl stuffed into it and you can then go out and beat the snot out of it.

And isnt that the whole point of these things?




you can do the SAME THING with a REAL ONE!.. i do IT ALL THE TIME as ALL MINE ARE THE REAL DEAL!.... DRAG RACING my 19K mile hemi car on friday nights 13:20@105 stone stock.. and they are WORTH BIG BUCKS.. unlike another WITHOUT the little INSIGNIFICANT VIN CODE..! nuff said..




I could care less about the VIN codes. They are all the real deal. A Satellite with a 440 6 bbl shoved into it with decent running gear is every but as fun to drive as one that came with the "proper " letter in the VIN. My 70 Coronet is supposedly a " 1 of 1 " car. Why? I guess because no one else wanted to buy one like it. Rare? I guess. Popular. Hardly. Valuable? To me it is. To others who cares?

If I wanted an investment I would buy gold. I wanted fun so I bought Mopars. I dont expect to make a dime off them. All I want to do is have fun with them and leave the high dollar stuff and the cat fights that go along with them to others.

I do admit the long time debates over the font of the engine stamps, what fender tag is real or fake or how much spray paint should be on a battery ground cable is entertaining.


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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: jon01] #1137907
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You really come across like a crass snob there Dan.

Not everyone can afford to/wants to wrap up big bucks in an original hemi/6bbl car so they build their own. Doesn't mean they're any less fun.

As to the OP - I'd dress it up some and put it on Ebay with a healthy reserve. That's the easiest way to set a true WIW.
I can't put a value on a one of one car, there's nothing else to base that value on.




NO WHERE did i say it wasn't OK to build a clone or hot rod..i was REPLYING to this line

[Man I sure am glad I am not into all this numbers crap.]...

so is he a CRASS REAL CAR SNOB then?

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: ph23vo] #1137908
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Nice 72 Wish I had the funds, it is the end of a wonderful era.

Now Dan, im sorry I wish I had the coin to buy your junk just so it would stop getting rammed down our throats in almost eveything you post on. The crap gets old, give it a rest, stash the rustbucket for another 5 years then come back out with the BS.

You got a rare car that clearly no one here wants, start spamming other countries....your V code junk is worn out here. Be proud of your car, im proud of alot of things but I dont ram it up your [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean], so please stop ramming your v code car up ours.

But back to the 72, dam I wish I had the funds...growing up the 72 v code was an unproven myth.....Dans is a proven nightmare before christmas, and still will be next christmas and the one after that...

Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car [Re: Moparlar] #1137909
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I have to say something here, I bought my first Mopar when I was 20, It was a 73 Satellite that I bought off a dealer used car lot from a friend I knew who was a salesman there. Not long after getting that car painted and selling it I bought the first of many 72 B-bodies. After that I was hooked, Don't ask me why 72's it just happened. So as a 72 owner you want the best 72 you could get, therefore as far as literature was concerned it would have to be a 72 6 pack car. Little did I know that was a very hard car to find. I would check every 72 RR I saw and could never find one. At the Nats in the early 80's I walked by Galens booth and saw his paper for a 72 6 pack registry, so I asked him about them. That is when he informed me that he had only found 1 RR and 2 Chargers. Needles to say that sorta takes the wind out of your sails. I stayed in contact with Galen just in case another car turned up. None did, 1 Day I get home from work and my then present wife said Galen called and I needed to call him. I said I had enough cars and didn't need another one. At the time I had the Superbird, a 72 400 Sky Blue RR that I had restored that you night have seen in magazines, I had a Black 72 440 RR/GTX and I has a General Lee from the TV show. She then told me that the 6 pack car was for sale. Of course I called, That weekend a very good friend of mine that worked for an airline flew down and took pictures. When he got back it was all I could do waiting for the pics from the photo store to be developed. Needless to say we struck a deal, people told me I was crazy paying that much for the car, I didn't care. It was my DREAM car and I wasn't missing it. I knew he had already sent in for sale adds to Hemmings and MCG and possibly more so I paid him what he was asking. I sold the 440 car and went and got it. Not long after I got divorced started drag racing and liked it much better than sitting in a field with a restored car. That was 17 years ago, I have had a few people who know about the car and a couple of them stay in touch if I ever wanted to get rid of it. I asked how much it is worth because sometimes lately I am not sure I will ever do the car. To be honest I have turned down $35,000 more than once in the past 10 years and at that price I am not losing money. It has never been about the money. Even now if I do decide to sell the car it might not go to the highest bidder, it might go to who I think will restore the car the way it deserves.

As far as being a 72 Well It is still the last built Mopar 6 pack car known to exist. I have heard all the stories about other cars, I chased them for years, no one to this day has shown me a fendar tag or Dash VIN Tag that shows me there is another one.

Ok Flame on, give me your best shot.

Larry




Hi Larry,

well said.
I would try ebay.com (high reserve, phonenumber) as well as hemmings and see what kind of serious reactions you get. Make sure it gets spread around that the car is available. At the end of the day you will know what the best offer or best potential buyer for the car is. And if it is the time to let it go or not. I am sure you will do the right decision.

Good luck

Carsten

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Thank you for bashing foreigners, Mr.Canada.
Be sure that europeans who buy and import any six-pack/hemicar know exactly what they are doing. A die hard enthusiast group and for sure not flippers as there is no way to make money with those cars overhere.

Carsten

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