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Fastest stock smogger 360 combos #113745
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I was inspired by the smogger 440 thread to ask what some times (et, mph) have been seen with a stock smogger 360. Please give combinations(cam, induction, exhaust, estimated compression, vehicle weight, ect.)

I'll start by saying I saw a duster run very high 12's and the guy told me it was a stock low compresion (8:1) long block with a 509 MP cam and 4.10 gears. I think it had open headers.

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Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: Rapid340] #113746
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hi
my son has a 360 duster auto that has a unknowen mild cam and pumps 125 lb comperesion with ld340 / 750 vac headers 3 in ex AND 2.76 gears !

14.2 on reg gas so far !

Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: calrobb2000] #113747
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1977 Plymouth Volare wagon 3350# with driver, 8:1 dish piston motor, 3500 Dymamic w/ manual valve body, 4.56's on 9" tires. .484 Purple Shaft, 1 5/8 headers w/ mufflers, stone stock 587 smogger heads. Best is 13.21 @ 101.

Stock eliminator guys are getting low 11's out of their stuff (Jerry Bennett, the Wann's, etc)


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Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: Dago Red] #113748
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In 1991, 360 stock short block, MP 292 cama, untouched 1.88/1.60" high swirl heads, performer intake, 3310 Holley, MP electronic ginition with orange box, 1 5/8" primary headers, 2.5" dual pipes with H. TF 727 with shift kit, 10" TCI converter, 8 3/4" with 3.23 ratio and sure grip, 205/75/14 tires. Car was a Plymouth Valiant 1973, 3400 lbs and run 13.26/107 mph.


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Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: jyrki] #113749
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You may wanna ask quickmopardan on this one


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Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: jyrki] #113750
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In 1991, 360 stock short block, MP 292 cama, untouched 1.88/1.60" high swirl heads, performer intake, 3310 Holley, MP electronic ginition with orange box, 1 5/8" primary headers, 2.5" dual pipes with H. TF 727 with shift kit, 10" TCI converter, 8 3/4" with 3.23 ratio and sure grip, 205/75/14 tires. Car was a Plymouth Valiant 1973, 3400 lbs and run 13.26/107 mph.




I saw a 4 door abody runs similar times at norwalk (late 90's or early 2000's)with a trap speed of 108 mph. The guy said it was a junk 360 with new MP swirl port heads that he spent a few hours on with a die grinder. The car had closed exhaust if I remember correctly.

Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: moparmattkos] #113751
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You may wanna ask quickmopardan on this one



Dan's is a long way from stock.


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Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: Rapid340] #113752
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My old Mirada at 3700+ lbs ran the best of a 12.01 at 109 and change.


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1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car
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1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96
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1971 MG Midget
1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57
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Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: sixpackbee] #113753
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My old Mirada at 3700+ lbs ran the best of a 12.01 at 109 and change.




What combination?

Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: Rapid340] #113754
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What combination?



It had a 8. to 1 short block. Stock Speed Pro replacement pistons. 051 heads. A cam I designed. Stock intake and a ThermoQuad. It was an NHRA legal Stock Eliminator car.


1959 Bugeye Sprite
1967 Charger Black L code
1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner
1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM
1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96
1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car
1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85
1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96
1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13
1971 MG Midget
1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57
1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21
Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: sixpackbee] #113755
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I have a 360 with the stock smog heads, he275hl cam, eddy performer rpm, 1 5/8 headers, about 10 to 10.5:1 comp., 4-speed, 3.91 gears, in a 65 barracuda and ran a 13.6 at 101 on the wal-mart special tires...

Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: Rapid340] #113756
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Mazzolini runs 10's with a smogger 318. Low compression pistons, cast iron heads, Qjet carb, etc.

Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: AndyF] #113757
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Mazzolini runs 10's with a smogger 318. Low compression pistons, cast iron heads, Qjet carb, etc.




Probly just running a summit cam too.

Just to clarify, I am not asking about super stockers with no expense spared. Just low dollar motors that run better than expexted.

Although it interesting how some of those cars run.

Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: Rapid340] #113758
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I was running low 12's with a 3000 lb car - stock milled unported heads, stock pistons, stock bottom end.

Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: MoparforLife] #113759
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What cam? How much did you mill the heads? Did you have any valve-to-piston issues?

Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: Rapid340] #113760
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I went 13.5 @ 101 mph with a stock 360 shortblock, 248/484 mp cam, stock 2.02 valve heads, LD 340 intake & open headers in a 3900 lb car.

Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: 2qik4u] #113761
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I went 13.4@ 102 with a stock 79 360 with MP 474 cam performer intake 625 AFB headers and 3.23 gears in a 3250# dart

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About .070 off the heads came out to 60 CC's. No valve to piston problems Crower 271 HDP cam. 271/284 adv duration with 485/495 lift.

Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: Rapid340] #113763
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Rapid, can we assume perhaps, you're trying to find the best bang for your money?
If you are quite happy with a somewhat less popular body, like a late Valiant/Dart/Scamp etc you'll be money ahead. Some folks just have to have a Demon or 2nd gen Barracuda, and they tend to be a bit more pricey. I have $4700 in my Volare wagon, including the cost of the car. I've raced it ten years and the 360 smogger I built for it still has good compression and oil pressure.


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Re: Fastest stock smogger 360 combos [Re: AndyF] #113764
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Mazzolini runs 10's with a smogger 318. Low compression pistons, cast iron heads, Qjet carb, etc.




Andy's right, while Mazz may have a few bucks in his Sebring, that is one screaming son-of-a-gun.

And, finally, while I don't want to hijack this thread, there has been surge in early A-body 273 combos for Stock and Super Stock being built, and its got the 283 Chevy guys as nervious as a kitty in a room full of rocking chairs. I've read where a 273 Valiant has been in the 11's !!


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