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tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum #1134935
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still running a stock front drum and it makes me nervous.going to replace it when we go thru the trans . anybody use or know anyboby that uses tcs steel sleeved drum?


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Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: bodyworks racing] #1134936
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I am going-to-be along with you ..

Oh ...and is there steel on the ring surface?

Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: bodyworks racing] #1134937
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i have the 6 clutch steel drum they sell,its a nice work of art...b1 johnny hooked me up with it good investment!

Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: dIc dOc Deity !] #1134938
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it has a steel sleeve around the band surface. the rest is billet aluminum.just want to find out more before i shell out 625


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Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: bodyworks racing] #1134939
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i have that drum in bl racings duster. he went a tenth quicker.he had a select unit it exploded at atco,i built him a new oneits mint. happy holidays johnny

Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: fishy340] #1134940
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i have the 6 clutch steel drum they sell,its a nice work of art...b1 johnny hooked me up with it good investment!




B1 Johnny hooked me up also,I got the billet steel


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Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: bodyworks racing] #1134941
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Hey! Who's using my name with out permission? LOL.

Yeah, I've heard of the Select stuff going puff, or should I say Bam!

Curt Sr. at The Bergen Garage will set it up right the first time. He knows all the Voodoo behind every unit and calls out all the fakes.

Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1134942
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my current trans is full of TCS parts & they are works of art when you compare them to the stockers. i'm collecting parts to build a spare trans & will probably go with the full metal jacket drum along with their billet low reverse drum in the back up trans. the current trans' TCS billet steel drum has already saved me when the dumbass who built my trans first time failed on the sprag rebuild. blown sprag & still ran 10 zero.

Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: hemi-itis] #1134943
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i have the 6 clutch steel drum they sell,its a nice work of art...b1 johnny hooked me up with it good investment!




B1 Johnny hooked me up also,I got the billet steel




Does that drum require any additional machining to install?

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the rear clutch drum has to be clearanced.there is a chamfer onthe drumyou have to make it wider instructions are included with the drum.

Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: B1Johnny] #1134945
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thanks for the replies guess i will pull the trigger and call them today merry christmas to me


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Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: bodyworks racing] #1134946
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it has a steel sleeve around the band surface. the rest is billet aluminum.just want to find out more before i shell out 625




Just "Raw" alum in the reaction shaft sealing ring area ? ... what do they recommend for sealing rings then ....so the rings don't tear-up the drum ??

Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: dIc dOc Deity !] #1134947
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It has a brass ring machined for the seal ring area.

http://www.tcsproducts.com/products/product/369/

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PC ... that link is not werkin' furr me ... brass ? ...why not steel? .... all considered at this point .. my choice is leaning towards a steel drum.

BUT NOT the one that has a lot of clutch discs.

Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: dIc dOc Deity !] #1134949
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Not sure why they decided to use brass but here's a picture. Maybe it has to do with the expansion rates of the materials. Brass likely expands at a rate closer to that of aluminum than steel.

As for sealing rings, teflon rings are included with the drum.

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Not sure why they decided to use brass but here's a picture. Maybe it has to do with the expansion rates of the materials. Brass likely expands at a rate closer to that of aluminum than steel.




Is this drum Race only or can you use it on a moderately used street car ?


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Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: keefe] #1134951
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Hi,
I have this drum in my car and I'm happy with it, I chose it cause I freshen several friends trans with the alum drum and I don't care for the wear on the drum from the band , also the alum crap all over the inside of the trans also. I think its' a happy medium between alum and billet steel.
Russ

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Not strictly a race piece and like already has been said, the steel "jacket" reduces the wear from the band that the aluminum drum suffers from and it is lighter than the full steel unit.

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PC ... that link is not werkin' furr me ... brass ? ...why not steel? .... all considered at this point .. my choice is leaning towards a steel drum.

BUT NOT the one that has a lot of clutch discs.




Doc,it seems that to use the extra disc,the thinner ones need to be used.My trans guy Tom preferred the thicker clutch disc so it's still,,,,,,,5 I think

I can ask Tom or B1 Johnny will say


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Doc,it seems that to use the extra disc,the thinner ones need to be used.My trans guy Tom preferred the thicker clutch disc so it's still,,,,,,,5 I think





i tried 6 disc's in my billet steel drum from TCS. i had a lot of overheating probs with the trans. we pulled it down & rebuilt with five fat disc's. seems to run cooler this rebuild.

Re: tcs trans 'full metal jacket' drum [Re: rebel] #1134955
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Doc,it seems that to use the extra disc,the thinner ones need to be used.My trans guy Tom preferred the thicker clutch disc so it's still,,,,,,,5 I think





i tried 6 disc's in my billet steel drum from TCS. i had a lot of overheating probs with the trans. we pulled it down & rebuilt with five fat disc's. seems to run cooler this rebuild.


Do you street drive it as well??Thay's why tom used only 5 in mine due to lot's of street abuse


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EACH to his own .. but 4 discs should be good-enuff. HELL ... on my lite-wait open-wheel car some years back I used TWO discs ...NO problem.

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EACH to his own .. but 4 discs should be good-enuff. HELL ... on my lite-wait open-wheel car some years back I used TWO discs ...NO problem.




Maybe ok for the feather weight,but not for my 3800+ lb brick


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Maybe ok for the feather weight,but not for my 3800+ lb brick




38 huN pounds ? .... ??? ..... gotstabe' tooo many gauges !

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I have 6 in mine and drive it every where as you know Al. Maybe it is different and a better package for the front/rear pump transmissions like our push button types

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...and how much line-pressure ?

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Not sure on the numbers but I know it is high. I can find out from my builder if you'd like.

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Maybe ok for the feather weight,but not for my 3800+ lb brick




38 huN pounds ? .... ??? ..... gotstabe' tooo many gauges !



Think I mighta heard that once before from a very wise manI'm gunna dump some ALIAS gauges


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Think I mighta heard that once before from a very wise manI'm gunna dump some ALIAS gauges




MAYbe the plan is FOR YOU to take a big-dump ... and put some warning(should I say IDIOT)-lites in-there.....

That pure race car should be at 29 huN ..

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