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The one that got away.........GTO Judge. #1133055 12/13/11 12:07 AM 12/13/11 12:07 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 732 Canada MUSLCA OP super stock
MUSLCA OP super stock Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 732 Canada	Who here has owned a truly rare car back in the day and didn't realize it. I once owned a real 1971 GTO Judge, numbers matching. It had the 455 HO. I owned in 1981 when it was just a old muscle car I find out years later that it was 1 of 357 built. Only if I knew what I know now. 6964436-img137.jpg (533 downloads)

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: MUSLCA] #1133056 12/13/11 12:23 AM 12/13/11 12:23 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,168 Wichita Kansas B Dartman master
B Dartman master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,168 Wichita Kansas	1971 Buick GS 455 1 of approx. 501 (501 has been lightly disputed over the years by Buick fans). When I sold the car back in the early 90's buyers were all looking for Stage 1 GS's which actually had higher production numbers probably never realizing how rare this model was. B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Mopar Muscle (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1971-dodge-dart-destiny-determination/ B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Dodge Garage (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.dodgegarage.com/news/article/showcase/2019/04/destiny-determination.html B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger early build pictures (Sold Dec 2021): https://s165.photobucket.com/user/Billswild440dart/library/

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: MUSLCA] #1133057 12/13/11 12:31 AM 12/13/11 12:31 AM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 375 An Island in the Pacific N.W. moopa enthusiast
moopa enthusiast Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 375 An Island in the Pacific N.W.	Ya, the rarest car I had was one of the very few 50 or 75? Canadian only 1971 340 Swinger Specials EV2 Auto, available from only two dealerships in Canada. It's available again...or was a few months back for 20,000,needing a complete resto....out of my league, now... Mark 6964466-71swingersp.jpg (455 downloads) 2015 TorRed Challenger Hellcat,A8 2013 Plum Crazy Challenger SRT8,6 Spd 2013 Black Challenger R/T Classic,auto (2)72 Satellites, one on hold,one under resto on the rotisserie.

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: moopa] #1133058 12/13/11 12:33 AM 12/13/11 12:33 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,649 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ... amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot. Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,649 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...	My '67 Mustang Fastback GT, 390 4-spd. I've heard there wasn't a big bunch of them made. Owned it from summer '69 until April '72. 6964471-'67MustangnexttoUSSHermitageLSD34,19712.jpg (439 downloads) Tom "Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing." -Henry David Thoreau Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths author unknown

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: MUSLCA] #1133059 12/13/11 12:39 AM 12/13/11 12:39 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts
Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC	http://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/showthread.php?t=683729 From Bill: Quote: 1971 Buick GS 455 1 of approx. 501 (501 has been lightly disputed over the years by Buick fans). When I sold the car back in the early 90's buyers were all looking for Stage 1 GS's which actually had higher production numbers probably never realizing how rare this model was. I think the number you mean is 801? And I assume you mean the higher production numbers is for the '70?

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: Diego (not Ted)] #1133060 12/13/11 01:17 AM 12/13/11 01:17 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,168 Wichita Kansas B Dartman master
B Dartman master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,168 Wichita Kansas	Quote: I think the number you mean is 801? And I assume you mean the higher production numbers is for the '70? Back when I had the car, I had a book on Buick GS's that proclaimed 501 or that's what stands out in my mind as I'm typing this, but that's been 20 years ago now so perhaps 801. Buyers would come and look at it and leave once they saw it was not a Stage 1 car. On a side note...had opportunity to buy a Stage 1 engine still in the crate back in mid 80's in Lawton Oklahoma. There were 2 or 3 engines on hand for $1,000 a pop. Wonder what they'd go for today? Just looked at GS Club of America site and they are showing 1,378 produced for 1971, so that number has morphed over the years. As stated, the numbers were contested back 20 years ago...still a low production car. Let's chuck it up to a "Senior Moment" Or a Fonzie used to say..."I was wrrrrrrr" "I was wrrrrrrr" Last edited by Bill_Hartman; 12/13/11 01:25 AM. B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Mopar Muscle (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1971-dodge-dart-destiny-determination/ B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Dodge Garage (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.dodgegarage.com/news/article/showcase/2019/04/destiny-determination.html B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger early build pictures (Sold Dec 2021): https://s165.photobucket.com/user/Billswild440dart/library/

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: B Dartman] #1133061 12/13/11 02:03 AM 12/13/11 02:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows? 1_WILD_RT Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	71 Challenger A93 Coupe W/198 & Auto.... Six built, mine was FJ6 Sassy Grass.... I parted it out... Around 1995.. 71 Challenger R/T 426 Hemi 4 spd Fifty Eight built, mine was an Export car, delivered new to Guam, FK5 Burnt Orange Metallic Heater Delete, AM/Cassette, Leather Interior... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1133062 12/13/11 03:16 AM 12/13/11 03:16 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder
PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas	Rarest car... probably the '06 BMW M3 ZCP Competition Package car in Intergalagos Blue my wife drives on sunny days currently. No production #s out of BMW, but it is rare for sure. This is the American sister car to the uber rare European only CSL. We've added all the carbon fiber CSL goodies, but we don't have the super cool air intake assembly $$$$$ exclusive to the CSL cars. This car happens to be the funnest car to drive that I currently own. You can't beat the engineering of a German sports car IMHO. Or the '05 Acura TL Aspec 6 Speed she drives on the other days. only 5% were 6 speeds, far fewer were Aspec package cars... probably something like 1-2% of all '05s. It has a "sport" VIN (1 yr only) which means it is a pre-"Type S" and we got stiffed the larger motor by buying a few months too early before the '06 Type S cars existed. Still got the big Brembos up front and tougher suspension. Oh... you meant rare INTERESTING muscle cars? None. '70 Super Bee 383 4 speed bench seat post car is as rare as I've had in that department (still own). 1 of 1736 or something like that. Color is FE5 Red with a black C stripe. Not super rare/desirable, but uncommon and attractively equipped, and that's what I like in my women and my cars.

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: amxautox] #1133063 12/13/11 03:50 AM 12/13/11 03:50 AM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 564 Round Rock,Tx N Nirvana mopar
Nirvana mopar N Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 564 Round Rock,Tx	Quote: My '67 Mustang Fastback GT, 390 4-spd. I've heard there wasn't a big bunch of them made. Owned it from summer '69 until April '72. Cool car,great color! 87 D100 225 4 speed.

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: Nirvana] #1133064 12/13/11 08:19 AM 12/13/11 08:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,159 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,159 Park Forest, IL	'69 Coronet R/T and '70 Challenger R/T SE. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1133065 12/13/11 09:13 AM 12/13/11 09:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,027 The Grand State of Confusion-O... SKR8PN master
SKR8PN master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,027 The Grand State of Confusion-O...	Quote: 71 Challenger A93 Coupe W/198 & Auto.... Six built, mine was FJ6 Sassy Grass.... I parted it out... Around 1995.. 71 Challenger R/T 426 Hemi 4 spd Fifty Eight built, mine was an Export car, delivered new to Guam, FK5 Burnt Orange Metallic Heater Delete, AM/Cassette, Leather Interior... Back around the early 1980's, a friend of mine had 70 or 71 Challenger with a /6 auto. It was a pale yellow color. He scrapped it out because the floors were gone. Wonder how rare that was? Karma has no menu. You get served what you deserve.

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: slantzilla] #1133066 12/13/11 09:14 AM 12/13/11 09:14 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 12,812 Tulsa, Oklahoma Wagonmaster I Live Here
Wagonmaster I Live Here Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 12,812 Tulsa, Oklahoma	I had a '63.5 lightweight Galaxie. 427/4-gear. It was a terror to drive. 6964739-19631.5LightweightGalaxie.jpg (370 downloads)

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #1133067 12/13/11 09:24 AM 12/13/11 09:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,018 Tulsa OK Bad340fish master
Bad340fish master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,018 Tulsa OK	Quote: Or the '05 Acura TL Aspec 6 Speed she drives on the other days. only 5% were 6 speeds, far fewer were Aspec package cars... probably something like 1-2% of all '05s. It has a "sport" VIN (1 yr only) which means it is a pre-"Type S" and we got stiffed the larger motor by buying a few months too early before the '06 Type S cars existed. Still got the big Brembos up front and tougher suspension. . Like we we have discussed before my wife's car is the same way minus the a spec package. I think they might all have been grey. We found two manual trans 05s when shopping and they were both grey. Do you always find yourself looking at the calipers on other TLs to see what they are? Lol 68 Barracuda Formula S 340

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: MUSLCA] #1133068 12/13/11 09:32 AM 12/13/11 09:32 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,874 New Castle, Indiana STINGRAY top fuel
STINGRAY top fuel Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,874 New Castle, Indiana	...'69 Chevelle SS 396/375, 4spd...triple black conv.... ...ordered it new and sold it when I went to work for Uncle Sam in March 1971...it was later spotted in a junkyard by a friend of mine, crushed in a stack of cars ...I had no idea how rare the car was, they were building them everyday as far as I knew 6964745-Copyoffgwdghwfgw.jpg (342 downloads)

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: Bad340fish] #1133069 12/13/11 09:43 AM 12/13/11 09:43 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,913 new berlin wisconsin M Mr T2U master
Mr T2U master M Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,913 new berlin wisconsin	the rarest car i ever owned was a 74 anniversary trans am 455sd 4 speed with T tops. i have read that only 6 cars were made. the T tops leaked so bad they removed the cars from the assembly line and welded up the roofs where they were. car was rusted up to the door handles. the floors were sheet metal pop riveted in. i traded to someone who knew what it was. i only paid $200 for it. drove it for 2 weeks. and traded it even up for a 78 little red express with a blown motor with 60k miles. this was the summer of 1980. perception is 90% of reality

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: amxautox] #1133070 12/13/11 10:19 AM 12/13/11 10:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,064 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,064 Niles , Ohio	60 Dodge Dart vert with D500 package.Rust free and ran.Scraped it for 35 bucks.Had a 61 Fury vert with 395 Golden Commando package also.The old man traded it in for 150 bucks.Missed the 68 Hemi Runner my ex bil had with spun bearing.That one he sold for 300 bucks.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: Mr T2U] #1133071 12/13/11 10:21 AM 12/13/11 10:21 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,397 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,397 It's a dry heat	1969 Road Runner Hemi 4 spd Last I heard it was the only 99 spring green Hemi 4 spd car known like a fool, I sold it in the late 80s . Car sold new right here in town.Scothorn Motor Co. Bought by a grandma for her grandsons high school graduation present. To this day, I remember seeing it in the early 70s running around on deep dish cragers and cherry bomb exhaust ( car was LOUD) and he was beating the snot out of of it everytime. God I wish I had that car back, Last I heard it was in Wisc. 6964789-69hemibeeper.jpg (384 downloads)

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: B Dartman] #1133072 12/13/11 10:22 AM 12/13/11 10:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts
Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC	Bill, my mistake - I thought you were talking about a '71 Stage 1. Yes, the number of 1971 455s has been adjusted over the years. I have the proper number somewhere based on research from the Sloan Museum. 1967 Mustang 390 fastbacks are not rare at all, by the way. 6964792-1967MustangFastback390_factoids.jpg (270 downloads) Last edited by Diego (not Ted); 12/13/11 10:28 AM.

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: moopa] #1133073 12/13/11 10:27 AM 12/13/11 10:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,279 Buzzardbreath Wyoming B BigBird pro stock
BigBird pro stock B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,279 Buzzardbreath Wyoming	Quote: Ya, the rarest car I had was one of the very few 50 or 75? Canadian only 1971 340 Swinger Specials EV2 Auto, available from only two dealerships in Canada. It's available again...or was a few months back for 20,000,needing a complete resto....out of my league, now... Mark Like the snow tires.

Re: The one that got away.........GTO Judge. [Re: Diego (not Ted)] #1133074 12/13/11 10:29 AM 12/13/11 10:29 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt chargervert I Live Here
chargervert I Live Here Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,995 RI Deep in the rust belt	I sold my 69 1/2 A12 4 speed,Superbee in 1994 for $8800.00 That seemed like good money for the car at the time. They exploded in value a few years later. Who knew? Atleast I sold it to buy a 69 Charger 500,which I later traded for the 70 V code Charger R/T I have now. All three are very rare cars. 70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi 70 Charger R/T convertible 70 Charger R/T V Code Sixpack 69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar 68 Charger 383 68 Charger 318 71 Charger R/T 70 Challenger convertible 71 Challenger convertible 71 Cuda 340 09 Challenger R/T Classic

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