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B1-BS head? #1131210
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What are you guys running for a valley plate with B1-BS heads? Indy valley cover or the one that Koffels offers. Can you run a B1 intake with these heads?
Thanks for any and all info
Kevin

Re: B1-BS head? [Re: 604 Hemi GTX] #1131211
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Can you run a B1 intake with these heads?
Thanks for any and all info
Kevin



Yes and no...Koffel's angle milled and made bolt adapter plates to convert the orig. B1 intake to a 'low-port' head on an RB block. I have one...PM me if interested. It looks cool and works good. But I feel the Indy intake works better. I don't know anyone who's dynoed the 2 comparatively but, I'd bet the Indy is a bit better on the low-port head.

Re: B1-BS head? [Re: 604 Hemi GTX] #1131212
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I have a set of B1Bs heads with A B1 intake on my 470 with no adapter plates for the intake

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Re: B1-BS head? [Re: 604 Hemi GTX] #1131213
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home made 2 piece valley plate, homemade intake spacers, and lots of Moroso a/b epoxy in the intake runners. intake is also angle milled.

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any pics of these heads


are they like indy sr,s or 440-1s


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Re: B1-BS head? [Re: Ari440] #1131215
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Wonder who's plate I have then? Its similar to Indy's but inverted..
The angle is milled upside down compared the Indy plate, so it bolts and pulls against the heads, instead of the heads capturing the cover like the Indy piece...
Havent used it before, but it seems like a great idea, easy removal for sure.


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Re: B1-BS head? [Re: 604 Hemi GTX] #1131216
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I have a 2-piece Bulldog plate that gets close enough to hold silicone. ARC made the one on the 493.


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Re: B1-BS head? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #1131217
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Wonder who's plate I have then? Its similar to Indy's but inverted..
The angle is milled upside down compared the Indy plate, so it bolts and pulls against the heads, instead of the heads capturing the cover like the Indy piece...
Havent used it before, but it seems like a great idea, easy removal for sure.




Bob that may be one of Tom Hemphile's plates that he makes up. Here's a couple of pictures of the ones Tom made for my B1's.





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9.42@138.27

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wow those are nice...

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wow those are nice...



I was just thinking the same thing.....were does a guy get one?

Re: B1-BS head? [Re: 604 Hemi GTX] #1131220
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wow those are nice...



I was just thinking the same thing.....were does a guy get one?




I will send you a Pm as he is not a paid advertiser on Moparts.


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5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
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9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: B1-BS head? [Re: Ari440] #1131221
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any pics of these heads


are they like indy sr,s or 440-1s




I say more like SR's, mine had the standard port window. I eventually raised the roof to max wedge but I broke through a pushrod pinch before max wedge width. So I stopped the rest just short of my breakthrough dimension.

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any pics of these heads


are they like indy sr,s or 440-1s




I say more like SR's, mine had the standard port window. I eventually raised the roof to max wedge but I broke through a pushrod pinch before max wedge width. So I stopped the rest just short of my breakthrough dimension.






what intake manifold are you using , any pics , thanks


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Re: B1-BS head? [Re: 604 Hemi GTX] #1131223
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If they are the stock port size, you can use a stock valley pan/gasket. If they are ported out to max wedge size, I think you will need the machined valley pan?

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any pics of these heads


are they like indy sr,s or 440-1s




I say more like SR's, mine had the standard port window. I eventually raised the roof to max wedge but I broke through a pushrod pinch before max wedge width. So I stopped the rest just short of my breakthrough dimension.






what intake manifold are you using , any pics , thanks




B1...I'll post pics tomorrow. Engine is on the stand, tomorrow starts my Christmas vacation, you know what I'll be doing........

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any pics of these heads


are they like indy sr,s or 440-1s




I say more like SR's, mine had the standard port window. I eventually raised the roof to max wedge but I broke through a pushrod pinch before max wedge width. So I stopped the rest just short of my breakthrough dimension.






what intake manifold are you using , any pics , thanks




B1...I'll post pics tomorrow. Engine is on the stand, tomorrow starts my Christmas vacation, you know what I'll be doing........




Are we putting on our new set of B1's for next year?


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: B1-BS head? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1131226
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Probably not...unless I find a can of worms in there. Still gathering parts, you know, if you need new pistons then you could build a new short block, why not stroke it some more, aw heck aluminum rods and so on.....................

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ok here is some shots....

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