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Re: B1-BS head?
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Can you run a B1 intake with these heads?
Thanks for any and all info
Kevin
Yes and no...Koffel's angle milled and made bolt adapter plates to convert the orig. B1 intake to a 'low-port' head on an RB block. I have one...PM me if interested. It looks cool and works good. But I feel the Indy intake works better. I don't know anyone who's dynoed the 2 comparatively but, I'd bet the Indy is a bit better on the low-port head. 
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Re: B1-BS head?
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12/17/11 03:36 PM
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any pics of these heads
are they like indy sr,s or 440-1s
1.39 9.85 - 137 mph
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Re: B1-BS head?
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12/17/11 03:43 PM
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Wonder who's plate I have then? Its similar to Indy's but inverted.. The angle is milled upside down compared the Indy plate, so it bolts and pulls against the heads, instead of the heads capturing the cover like the Indy piece... Havent used it before, but it seems like a great idea, easy removal for sure. 
[color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color]
[color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]
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Re: B1-BS head?
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12/17/11 04:00 PM
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I have a 2-piece Bulldog plate that gets close enough to hold silicone. ARC made the one on the 493.
Walter
1969 Dart Swinger w/ARC Pump Gas 493 B1/BS 10.18 at 130mph
Racing Pro in street trim.
1981 Aries ARC 548 B1 8.88 at 147mph (footbraking)
1996 Ram 2500 V10 16.52 at 80mph
1981 Reliant 400
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Re: B1-BS head?
[Re: Ari440]
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12/18/11 11:56 AM
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any pics of these heads
are they like indy sr,s or 440-1s
I say more like SR's, mine had the standard port window. I eventually raised the roof to max wedge but I broke through a pushrod pinch before max wedge width. So I stopped the rest just short of my breakthrough dimension. 
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Re: B1-BS head?
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12/18/11 04:55 PM
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any pics of these heads
are they like indy sr,s or 440-1s
I say more like SR's, mine had the standard port window. I eventually raised the roof to max wedge but I broke through a pushrod pinch before max wedge width. So I stopped the rest just short of my breakthrough dimension.
what intake manifold are you using , any pics , thanks
B1...I'll post pics tomorrow. Engine is on the stand, tomorrow starts my Christmas vacation, you know what I'll be doing........
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Re: B1-BS head?
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12/19/11 03:03 PM
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ok here is some shots....
Last edited by B1MAXX; 12/19/11 03:04 PM.
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Re: B1-BS head?
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12/19/11 05:46 PM
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BS's used to be a good deal, but if you're buying new rocker gear, why not go Victors? Seem to pick up a little cfm when both are ported and seem a little less money. S/F....Ken M
There are probably alotta reasons to use Indy or Edlebrock, but the BS head is very good and has an excellent chamber as said. But personally I love the idea of supporting the Koffels... a legendary mopar family. And am proud to run their stuff..that means alot. 
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Re: B1-BS head?
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12/20/11 08:49 AM
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I can empathize, I don't use Indy for similar reasons. As for compression, when you buy the CNC ported BS's, when they relieve the chambers to unshroud the valves, you're at 75cc'ish, same as Victors.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be quite happy with a set of CNC'd BS's, if I could get them for less money than Victors. Maybe even the same money, IMO Brodix is a superior casting. I just can't see spending more money to get less flow. My B1 Originals are EFI, so no worrries about wet flow or vaccuum signal, but I can't afford that again, so I'm keeping port volume down. S/F.....Ken M
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Re: B1-BS head?
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12/20/11 11:07 AM
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I agree with what your saying too. I got mine way back in '00 and if the Performer RPM had been out i probably would've ended up with them!  But the BSs were available so thats what we went with..my motor was a street/strip 440...did'nt even port them. So I got into the B1 stuff from then on, put some Originals on my 540... At first I lkied what i saw with the Indy stuff. But I'm glad i went with B1 now! I still belive Indy has some excellent stuff..the EZ heads were a great idea..and now they have the Predators. Their SB 360-1 series are great too. They have a crap-load of cool stuff...lol..but lousy customer service, IMO.
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